How Obama Got Elected

[Shady]

On Election day twelve Obama voters were interviewed extensively right after they voted to learn how the news media impacted their knowledge of what occurred during the campaign. These voters were chosen for their apparent intelligence/verbal abilities and willingness to express their opinions to a large audience. The rather shocking video below seeks to provide some insight into which information broke through the news media clutter and which did not.

I wish I was suprised, but sadly I'm not.

Zogby Forced To Defend Poll

We stand by the results our survey work on behalf of John Ziegler, as we stand by all of our work. We reject the notion that this was a push poll because it very simply wasn't. It was a legitimate effort to test the knowledge of voters who cast ballots for Barack Obama in the Nov. 4 election.

We were hired to test public opinion on a particular subject and with no ax to grind, that's exactly what we did. We don't have to agree or disagree with the questions, we simply ask them and provide the client with a fair and accurate set of data reflecting public opinion." - John Zogby

Zogby

The poll was released today.

Just 2% of voters who supported Barack Obama on Election Day obtained perfect or near-perfect scores on a post election test which gauged their knowledge of statements and scandals associated with the presidential tickets during the campaign, a new Zogby International telephone poll shows.

Zogby

[BubberMiley]

Obama got elected because McCain ran a crappy campaign. McCain ran a crappy campaign because of one word: Ayers.

Please, never never change your signature. Every time I read it, I get a chuckle.

[Sir Bandelot]

There's many reasons why Obama got elected, including the debates, the choice of a running mate and media campaigns. With such intense bombardment of information in the media coming from both sides, its impossible for anyone to know who really said what. In the end most of those media statements are just hype and tabloid info, which I think would not sway the opinions of intelligent voters who are interested in real politics.

Obama got elected in a democratic process. I don't think there was any conspiracy on the one side, that wasn't attempted in similar fashion by the other.

Looks like the tinfoil hat is on the other head now.

Edited November 19, 2008 by Sir Bandelot

[Oleg Bach]

There's many reasons why Obama got elected, including the debates, the choice of a running mate and media campaigns. With such intense bombardment of information in the media coming from both sides, its impossible for anyone to know who really said what. In the end most of those media statements are just hype and tabloid info, which I think would not sway the opinions of intelligent voters who are interested in real politics.

Obama got elected in a democratic process. I don't think there was any conspiracy on the one side, that wasn't attempted in similar fashion by the other.

Looks like the tinfoil hat is on the other head now.

They don't have to conspire - voters are humans and human action is almost always based in emotion and not intellect or logic - Obama is a nothing - just like Bush and we are delluded dreamers who still have no leaders or heros - just fanciful imaginings that make us feel good - doubt if illusion will carry us to salvation.

[bush_cheney2004]

....Obama is a nothing - just like Bush and we are delluded dreamers who still have no leaders or heros - just fanciful imaginings that make us feel good - doubt if illusion will carry us to salvation.

Salvation is boring. Obama is just another elected US president, like any other.

He never wanted to be Black Jesus.....the pay sucks.

[Oleg Bach]

Salvation is as relaxing as catching bass in the fall - or sailing in the silver grey light of the season - You must be young if you are still spoiling for a fight - the young fight for sport - I fight in self defense and for survival of myself and those I love. Obamas ears are to big to be Jesus - AND you are right - those with a healthy messionic complex that mature eventually figure out that the world does not want to be saved ---so to hell with them - have fun down their in the flames of intoxicating sensation...bored are we? How about you get a job as the button pusher for the nukes - that might cheer you up.

[bush_cheney2004]

.... How about you get a job as the button pusher for the nukes - that might cheer you up.

I already had that job....even that became boring....like stomping on ants as a child.

[Oleg Bach]

I told you before not to be so funny - as long as you were not meltiing plastic soldiers with a magnyfying glass...It's been fun as usual...pretty difficult to find someone that has an edge and a mind in such a state of joyous rebellion and contempt for the world..

[noahbody]

Obama got elected because Bush was so bad, the change message became meaningful to many Americans.

[Oleg Bach]

Obama got elected because Bush was so bad, the change message became meaningful to many Americans.

That reminds me of the ugly guy getting the girl because her handsome husband beats her - sort of a default election.

[guyser]

I find it funny that shady et al post these anti obama things, but never defend them. Post and run as it were. This is another one.

Shady, Obama won because he got more electoral votes.

Surprised you couldnt figure that out.Thanks for playing.

[guyser]

That reminds me of the ugly guy getting the girl because her handsome husband beats her - sort of a default election.

Which one were you? The ugly or the beater?

[Mr.Canada]

I don't think any of the previous posters even watched those videos at all. If they did, they didn't comment on them as it would have made them all blush.

[Oleg Bach]

Which one were you? The ugly or the beater?

Your a liberal - how come you have not asked me if I have taken my "meds" - that's a typical lefty approach... I was neither.

[guyser]

Your a liberal - how come you have not asked me if I have taken my "meds" -

Why haven't I ?

Because with each and every post of yours I have my answer.

[Kitchener]

I don't think any of the previous posters even watched those videos at all. If they did, they didn't comment on them as it would have made them all blush.

Good grief, you're right! Voters tend to be grossly under-informed, and more focused on the weaknesses of those they oppose than the weaknesses of those they support!

How incredibly blushifying that is.

Any mention of how the control group did on the control set of questions? Ah, right -- there was no control group answering a control set of questions.

[August1991]

On Election day twelve Obama voters were interviewed extensively right after they voted to learn how the news media impacted their knowledge of what occurred during the campaign. These voters were chosen for their apparent intelligence/verbal abilities and willingness to express their opinions to a large audience. The rather shocking video below seeks to provide some insight into which information broke through the news media clutter and which did not.

We have a poster here named Black Dog and he famously said "Anecdote is not the plural of data." As I watched that youtube video, I wondered what kind of answers 12 randomly chosen McCain voters would provide.

Obama got elected because McCain ran a crappy campaign. McCain ran a crappy campaign because of one word: Ayers.

Sorry, Bubbler. As much as I am disheartened to explode your sunshine balloon, Obama didn't win because he's golden, the MSM loves him, McCain can't raise his arms above his shoulders or because Tina Fey wrongly implied that Sarah Palin is so ignorant as to think that she can see Russia from her house in Alaska.

Obama won because US house prices collapsed and then the US stock market collapsed. By October, any Republican (even Obama himself if he'd been Republican) was unelectable.

The only surprise in all this is that Obama "only" garnered about 52% of the vote. I reckon that the Bradley effect, Obama's inexperience and his left-wing record (such as it is) explains the low result.

Barack Obama is an accidental president and we are about to learn whether Obama himself understands that. By first appearances, his ego has been humbled not inflated. His voice can soothe but we haven't seen the "Just watch me" moment.

[Shady]

Obama got elected because McCain ran a crappy campaign. McCain ran a crappy campaign because of one word: Ayers.

I agree that McCain ran a very inadequate campaign, and it was definitely because of one word....McCain. Not using Obama's Rev. Wright, and Obama's Bill Ayers at the beginning of the campaign, and defining Obama early and often (the same way they vote in Chicago ) was tantamount to political negligence.

Looks like the tinfoil hat is on the other head now.

Nope, no tinfoil hat needed. And I posted this topic not necessarily to mock Obama voters, but to mock the media that obviously failed them miserably. Journalism died in 2008.

As I watched that youtube video, I wondered what kind of answers 12 randomly chosen McCain voters would provide.

I agree, except for the fact that Zogby was commissioned to poll a much larger sample, with similar results.

Barack Obama is an accidental president and we are about to learn whether Obama himself understands that. By first appearances, his ego has been humbled not inflated. His voice can soothe but we haven't seen the "Just watch me" moment.

Agreed.

[Oleg Bach]

Much like Harper did not have a clue what the Prime Ministership really entailed untll the big boys took him aside and he found out he really did not have any power - Obama has quickly realized he is just a very smooth spokesman for the committee. All power is conducted in secret. Everybody knows that.

[GostHacked]

I agree that McCain ran a very inadequate campaign, and it was definitely because of one word....McCain.

The rest of your post about Ayers and Rev Wright is useless when you say it like this.

[BubberMiley]

The only surprise in all this is that Obama "only" garnered about 52% of the vote.

I like how the candidate who had no chance of winning before the election becomes the candidate who should have won an overwhelming majority after the election.

[Sir Bandelot]

I wont lie, I'm scared of what Obama is going to do.

Well here's a headline to scare you... Obama is a right-winger

"Obama intends to lead from Right-Center" - MSNBC.com

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"Meet the new Boss... the same as the old Boss..."

Edited November 22, 2008 by Sir Bandelot

[Charles Anthony]

A post has been deleted from this threadbecause it could be construed as advocating violence in a manner which may put the operation of this forum in jeopardy.

Other posts have been deleted as well because they quoted the original offending post.

[BC_chick]

Well here's a headline to scare you... Obama is a right-winger

"Obama intends to lead from Right-Center" - MSNBC.com

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"Meet the new Boss... the same as the old Boss..."

I can't find that article to see what MSNBC's criteria is for Obama's "centre-right" agenda....

But I'm also willing to be that Obama will disappoint liberal democrats way more than conservative republicans.

Edited November 22, 2008 by BC_chick

[Sir Bandelot]

Here is the link for it-

Nov. 21, 2008

"President-elect Barack Obama won the Democratic nomination with the enthusiastic support of the left wing of his party, fueled by his vehement opposition to the decision to invade Iraq and by one of the most liberal voting records in the Senate.

Now, his reported selections... suggest that Mr. Obama is planning to govern from the center-right of his party"

Obama intends to lead from Right Center - MSNBC.com

Edited November 22, 2008 by Sir Bandelot