Moonlight Graham Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Interesting, my theory for McCain's loss is a little shorter than that. .... Palin. I would add Bush & the economy to that list, which i think are far more a factor than that idiot in heels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksman Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 No..they just wanted the best sex of their life. It really has absolutely nothing to do with Canada, yet Canadians persist with peaked interest...like this from CTV: And Obama looked onto the land and saw it was not right. So he sayeth "Let there be jobs" and behold... I'm sure you made your hand very happy. But you're right this has nothing to do with Canada. So why are you trying to make this about Canada? Trolling with quotes can be fun but next time quote the whole thing And Obama looked onto the land and saw it was not right. So he sayeth "Let there be jobs" and behold...When on Earth is this cult behaviour going to end? The comment is showing the exact opposite of peaked interest. Looks like since Bush and Cheney couldn't run again you've got to take your frustration out somewhere even if you've got to make up stuff to argue against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 His election was historic for the USA and for that reason Americans should be proud. But he's not a messiah and his politics wouldn't necessarily appeal in other countries to the same degree as they apparently appealed in the USA.His personality more than his politics appealed. The U.S. has a pattern of voting on personality and leadership perception, not necessarily substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I'm sure you made your hand very happy. But you're right this has nothing to do with Canada. So why are you trying to make this about Canada? Trolling with quotes can be fun but next time quote the whole thing I'm sure you're the expert at such things. Including trolling. The comment is showing the exact opposite of peaked interest. The comment exists...among thousands of others. Sorry if your own election was so boring and meaningless. Looks like since Bush and Cheney couldn't run again you've got to take your frustration out somewhere even if you've got to make up stuff to argue against. So you don't really exist? Splendid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I was wondering why I had fun with you - it's because you are American - Canadians don't know how to enjoy themselves. They are so victorian and full of guilt - we need more sinisterism up here to spark the place up - so come on up.. You can have my wife - after all I am an Eskimo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I was wondering why I had fun with you - it's because you are American - Canadians don't know how to enjoy themselves. They are so victorian and full of guilt - we need more sinisterism up here to spark the place up - so come on up.. You can have my wife - after all I am an Eskimo. I agree....let's dispense with the pretenses and guilt.....a man (or woman) is what he does...everything else is just bullshit. I think it is so cute how some Canadians still express shock and disbelief after the latest shooting, stabbing, sexual assault, or tampering of Halloween candy. Oh my...not in Canada! That sort of thing only happens in the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I agree....let's dispense with the pretenses and guilt.....a man (or woman) is what he does...everything else is just bullshit. I think it is so cute how some Canadians still express shock and disbelief after the latest shooting, stabbing, sexual assault, or tampering of Halloween candy. Oh my...not in Canada! That sort of thing only happens in the USA. I will tell you why we have the brand new trouble that is the gun. It was socialist policies that removed black fathers from households because they where considered useless as far a workers to keep our rich conservative class afloat. The system consists of old school conservatives using stupifed liberal lefties to keep the society destablized and controlable. Most are to busy getting blurred vision from the rapid vacilation that is left and right wing. It was not America that caused this problem - nor was it black rap videos shipped north - It was conservatism that did not keep a firm hand on liberalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksman Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I'm sure you're the expert at such things. Including trolling.The comment exists...among thousands of others. Sorry if your own election was so boring and meaningless. So you don't really exist? Splendid! Only a complete idiot would think that taking an interest in world events means that you don't take interest in domestic events or that you consider domestic events meaningless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksman Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I agree....let's dispense with the pretenses and guilt.....a man (or woman) is what he does...everything else is just bullshit. I think it is so cute how some Canadians still express shock and disbelief after the latest shooting, stabbing, sexual assault, or tampering of Halloween candy. Oh my...not in Canada! That sort of thing only happens in the USA. Oh look another made up myth that you can then argue against to make yourself feel better. I suppose trolling on the internet is cheaper than a drug habit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Oh look another made up myth that you can then argue against to make yourself feel better. I suppose trolling on the internet is cheaper than a drug habit. Somebody here is on drugs...and it's not me. Nobody forces you to read my posts.....rookie member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksman Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Somebody here is on drugs...and it's not me. Nobody forces you to read my posts.....rookie member. You do like your strawman arguments and arguing against things that noone else said. Noone said you're on drugs or that people are forced to read your nonsense. Only that what you post is nonsense. Like thinking that hitting the add reply button more times than someone else makes a difference to anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 You do like your strawman arguments and arguing against things that noone else said. Noone said you're on drugs or that people are forced to read your nonsense. Only that what you post is nonsense. Like thinking that hitting the add reply button more times than someone else makes a difference to anything. Apparently you like them too. Or otherwise you would buzz off to another exercise in futility. Did you really think I would alter anything because of your inane rookie comments? Maybe you just want a pat on the head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Everybody, Stop the personal attacks and the trolling. You are free to disagree with eachother and to defend your points of view so long as the discussion remains at the level of the topic. Ch. A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Obama could have been with ANY party and he would have won anyway. He knows how to connect with the people and when he was on Oprah way before he even to decided to run I knew he would win then because he can connect to the "average joe". Bill Clinton is a very good speaker but Obama is better and I hope he can stay the same Obama and not let the power and the stress of being president get to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Obama could have been with ANY party and he would have won anyway. He knows how to connect with the people and when he was on Oprah way before he even to decided to run I knew he would win then because he can connect to the "average joe". Bill Clinton is a very good speaker but Obama is better and I hope he can stay the same Obama and not let the power and the stress of being president get to him. Ya he had such an overwhelming majority in the popular vote, with only 4% more then McCain you statement is very false, he only did slightly better then John Kerry and Al Gore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoh Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Ya he had such an overwhelming majority in the popular vote, with only 4% more then McCain you statement is very false, he only did slightly better then John Kerry and Al Gore. Its interesting how bias clouds the mind. The difference is 7%. According to CNN, that is: Obama 53% McCain 46% He also took states that haven't been blue since 1964. GWB could only dream of such margins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 After the dems loses in both 2000 and 2004 what did we see, American liberals claiming to want to move Canada, a loss of national pride because an election didn't go their way. In 1992 did we see republicans declairing loss of pride in their country, have we seen it in 2008. NO but we have seen GWb become a convienent scape goat. You really should read the Rep forums. The right wing (and it is always the extremes-both sides) is doing the very same thing the left did. Bitch and whine. The only thing I see different is the racist photos attached to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Its interesting how bias clouds the mind. The difference is 7%. According to CNN, that is:Obama 53% McCain 46% He also took states that haven't been blue since 1964. GWB could only dream of such margins. Sorry 6.5% still not a huge margin. Barack 52.6% of the popular vote in 2008 Bush 50.2% of the popular vote in 2004 Barack did 2.6% better, thats not much better. His result aren't very good considering what the left is deluding themselves with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 The blacks have shown that "Yes We Can" by electing one of their own to the highest and most powerful office in the world. Surely, this shows that Mr. Obama, and for that matter any black, can and indeed must be evaluated on their merits. Er, I can't disagree with the value of judging someone on their merit as opposed to their skin colour, but Barak Obama is not "one of their own" to US "blacks". He's of half European descent, with no association to slavery in his lineage besides maybe some of his Dutch ancestors dabbling in the trade. I actually found the playing of the race card by the Obama campaign to be greatly disappointing; it flew in the face of the idea that skin colour doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Er, I can't disagree with the value of judging someone on their merit as opposed to their skin colour, but Barak Obama is not "one of their own" to US "blacks". He's of half European descent, with no association to slavery in his lineage besides maybe some of his Dutch ancestors dabbling in the trade. I actually found the playing of the race card by the Obama campaign to be greatly disappointing; it flew in the face of the idea that skin colour doesn't matter. No Dutch in him it seems. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama Barack Obama was born at the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu, Hawaii,[6] to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a Luo from Nyang’oma Kogelo, Nyanza Province, Kenya, and Ann Dunham, a white American from Wichita, Kansas[7] of mainly English, Irish and smaller amounts of German descent.[8][9][10] I did not notice the race card factor from Obama's team as much as I heard it from the McCain camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 The race card is just that - a card. Now that they are done with it it will be tossed out along with the rest of the deck. This whole duping process was not just to get black votes but millions of white votes. Whites governed by emotion and a sense of psuedo justice cast their votes in favour of Obama also. But if you were to ask one of these emotional lefty whites to sell their property and devide it amoung the poor disadvantaged blacks - not one would step forward - emotion is cheap - It feels good for the one having it but rarely manifests itself in true benevolence. Race has nothing do with the OBAMA victory. Emotion and the engineering of emotion is what won the day...this is old school stuff - ask Hitler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 No Dutch in him it seems. Oops, my bad. I thought his mother was of Dutch descent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Sorry 6.5% still not a huge margin.Barack 52.6% of the popular vote in 2008 Bush 50.2% of the popular vote in 2004 Barack did 2.6% better, thats not much better. His result aren't very good considering what the left is deluding themselves with. You're funny. In '04, Bush's 0.2 per cent margin of victory was considered by the right to be a resounding endorsement of his government and its policies. Four years on and Obama's 6.5 per cent lead over the challenger is considered "not very good." Me thinks if the results were reversed you'd be singing a very different tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 You're funny. In '04, Bush's 0.2 per cent margin of victory was considered by the right to be a resounding endorsement of his government and its policies. Four years on and Obama's 6.5 per cent lead over the challenger is considered "not very good." Me thinks if the results were reversed you'd be singing a very different tune. No its still amounts to a very politically divided nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 No its still amounts to a very politically divided nation. A politically divided nation probably fosters a healthy democracy. But the head of the nation dividing the populace is not a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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