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I heard several referrences to that already, but am too new to this forum to know the situation. For the record, when I went to vote today it was pissing down rain, and some asshole school kids tore down the paper signs Elections Canada had posted pointing the way to the polling station in a very large school here. I walked forever trying to find the thing.

Yup.

Someone said this in another thread, but more and more I think it could, partially, happen. The red Libs will join the NDP, the blue Libs will join the Cons and a rump will remain and try to rebuild. Someone said in still another thread that the Cons need to wait a bit for some of their bad, old guys to retire or die and then they can rebuild a party with some progressive in it. Well, a similar thing can be said for the Libs. There are still a bunch of Chretienites that need to be gone, then the Libs can start to rebuild. But is it too late for them?

According to an article in the Vancouver Sun on Saturday, twitter et al are considered public transmissions, and those can't be premature, but they say a private e-mail is outside the purview of the legislation, so out here in BC, I have asked friends in Ontario to e-mail me early results. And for the record, I have already voted so I won't be swayed. And I don't plan on standing on a street corner shouting out the word. (Especially since it is pissing down rain - again.)

Condemning David Frum for being a Conservative advocate is the same as condemning Layton for being an NDP advocate. What are you going on about? David Frum in no way tries to hide his bias. Unlike the CBC, they are the hacks.

I quit whining a while ago. But I promised myself that if they ever have another referendum, I'm going there to campaign for the yes side.

Does the NDP run candidates in a significant number of ridings in Quebec provincial elections?

Be it in six months or four years, I am already looking forward to the next election. The NDP had the classic underdog thing going for them. Next time it will be harder.

I find it sort of humorous that someone would be urging a collection of political junkies like us to vote. I bet there is a vastly higher proportion of posters here who vote than almost any other demographic you could choose. And what are the odds of changing someone on this board's vote at this late date?

It appears from our recent history that air to ground is maybe more "in demand" for the type of actions our military take on, so the F-22 wouldn't be in the running for our airforce.

@ Derek L. You seem to know about this stuff. Several of my American friends criticized the F-22 very much, saying it is overpriced and an inferior weapons platform. Your opinion?

For Obama, maybe, for us, no.

That's totally irrelevant to my post.

There is a great quote my American friends keep repeating. I'm not sure who said it or if this is exactly the correct wording, but... "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." I don't think we should do nothing.

You forgot the [/sarcasm] at the end.

As much as I hate(d) Trudeau, I really think Chretien was way worse than either of them.

So you were happy with what Germany and Japan did in starting WWII and during it. And more importantly, what they were planning to keep doing?

The average tractor costs over $250,000 these days and a combine over $350,000. Right there he's well on his way to the million dollars. And what is a section of arable land cost in your neck of the woods? Yes, million dollars plus.

I wasted my youth, went to school forever. Got a Ph.D. Did post-doc work and everything, but unfortunately I was on the job market just when the US pulled out of Viet Nam and gave up the space race. R&D in the western world died. I had a mortgage and a one year old daughter, and I needed a job. That was my criteria, it had to be a job. I ended up selling in the oil industry, just because the fool was stupid enough to hire me. Well, I bounced around and kept getting promoted and finding better jobs and ended up OK. And I am absolutely sure that both the degrees impressed potential employers, plus the thinking methodology and problem solving skills that a good university education teaches you helped me advance.

Actually a good analysis, and I mostly agree. But despite all of Harper's faults, I still think Layton's platform, and Iggy are worse. So I am going to hold my nose and vote conservative.

Some official with a US polling company I watched on some TV news panel brought up a phenomenon, and had a name for it but I don't remember. When there is a lot of anger and discontent in the electorate, they will often give poll takers an answer suggesting change is coming, but the actual results come in much less in favor of change. He says for example if the Reps have been doing badly in the polls, when the soft Rep voters and independents who said they'd vote Dem actually get into the ballot booth, they sort of choke and vote same-old, same-old. I wonder if some significant number of disgruntled Liberals will also do that?

I totally disagree with that concept. I also am very much against Harper's crime stance. It has been proven wrong many times by many people. But Iggy is a joke, and Layton will bankrupt us.

I'm still waiting to see the armed black-shirts patrolling the streets. You got any pics?

You're dwelling in the past. I fear for the future if Spending Jack gets any power.

I've heard of ballot stuffing, but never parliament stuffing.