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Where does it say "internal"? Where does it say, "Caused by Trudeau?" Here it is again, in case you're still confused about what they were talking about: b. Supply challenges that largely reflect developments at the global level account for another 35% of the rise in inflation. Except 50% to global factors, plus another 35% to supply challenges = 85%. Your math does not check out. 🙃

and then: b. Supply challenges that largely reflect developments at the global level account for another 35% of the rise in inflation. Right there, in plain English! 🤣 50+35 = 85% of inflation accounted for!

No, I mean: a. Around 50% of the increase in inflation observed since the end of 2019 can be ascribed to global or foreign factors. These include US inflation, commodity prices and movements in the exchange rate. b. Supply challenges that largely reflect developments at the global level account for another 35% of the rise in inflation. 50% global/foreign factors + 35% to supply challenges = 85% of inflation accounted for.

Dear @I am Groot, We regret to inform you that your "conservative" membership card has been revoked for the following reason(s): - Having nuanced opinions on different subjects - Not approving of Orange-Man, his incoherent tantrums, his conspiracy-peddling and his victim-playing. As a result, you are hereby declared a Marxist/socialist, woke Trudeau-lover. Good luck on the other side of the Wall. 🫡 Sincerely, -MAGA Anyone else see the contradiction here? 🙄

I'm saying that these words mean exactly what they say: a. Around 50% of the increase in inflation observed since the end of 2019 can be ascribed to global or foreign factors. These include US inflation, commodity prices and movements in the exchange rate. b. Supply challenges that largely reflect developments at the global level account for another 35% of the rise in inflation. 50% global/foreign factors + 35% to supply challenges = 85% of inflation accounted for. Your bozo claim that Trudeau was responsible for over half therefore makes absolutely no sense, and it's just more of your make-believe bullshitting. 🙃

You melted your own brain doing desperate mental gymnastics to make these quotes mean something that doesn't so obviously torpedo your clueless bullshitting. It's definitely not complicated, and it's definitely not saying what you pretend it does. a. Around 50% of the increase in inflation observed since the end of 2019 can be ascribed to global or foreign factors. These include US inflation, commodity prices and movements in the exchange rate. b. Supply challenges that largely reflect developments at the global level account for another 35% of the rise in inflation. I don't see any mention of "internal but reflecting world issues" there. That was Fox-believe fantasy. Those two quotes cannot be true alongside your claim. Trudeau can't have been responsible for over 50% of the inflation spike we experienced, when we already have 85% specifically accounted for.

Ah, a "student of history" I see. You're talking about that wonderfully myopic faction in the US that tried to ignore naked aggression and pretend they were just "regional problems", as they predictably became continent spanning problems and then global problems, all the way up until they rolled on to their doorstep. 🙄 Yeah big-brain Putin faceplanted his peasant army into an impoverished nation 1/4 of Russia's population, in an invasion that was expected to take a few week, that has now gone 2 years and for which he has almost nothing to show. "ChEcKmAtE!" 🙃

That's his automated response when someone says offers a reality-check on his (often banal) musings.

He does, but he's too belligerently stupid to back down. Supply challenges like Russia's invasion of Ukraine, China's zero-COVID lockdowns and the 2 year backup at the Port of Lost Angeles: Trudeau's fault. That makes so much sense. 🤣 It's both pathetic and hilarious that you think this is a compelling reasoning. Everything CdnFox thinks he knows about economics, summed up in two sentences profoundly stupid sentences.

a. Around 50% of the increase in inflation observed since the end of 2019 can be ascribed to global or foreign factors. These include US inflation, commodity prices and movements in the exchange rate. b. Supply challenges that largely reflect developments at the global level account for another 35% of the rise in inflation. https://www.scotiabank.com/ca/en/about/economics/economics-publications/post.other-publications.inflation-reports.causes-of-inflation--december-5--2022.html

I'm okay just letting your spastic responses here speak for themselves. 🙃

None of which you can or will reference saying what you pretend they do. The BOC and bank reports may say a lot of things, but they don't line up with CdnFox's low-IQ hot-takes and interpretations. 🤡 No muppet, you did not. Here is how that conversation actually went: I posted it, because you specifically claimed that Scotiabank backed up your retarded claims, when I'd already read what they had to say for work and knew they said the opposite. You did your usual jackassing about why you wouldn't provide your sources, so I spent 30 seconds to put you out of your misery. 🥱

and yet, even ignoring the polls we have access to that show it does, it's self-evident that they do. 🙄

For someone who's not trying to peddle conspiracy theories, you can't seem to help yourself. This one isn't even any good. Netanyahu's carefully crafted image of being the man for security cannot survive this, and it's crazy to think that he believed it could. The Oct 7th attacks and the former Netanyahu brand cannot exist in the same reality. "Oopsy we let the grass get too long, and Hamas went further than we'd hoped" is a ridiculous argument. You drew the comparison, by drawing parallels between the Gazan/Hamas and Israeli political decision making processes. It was a lousy comparison, and we didn't need a "contest" to sort it out. Circular reasoning that can be flipped to defeat itself. If Israel had a hand in the rise of Hamas and the miserable conditions in Gaza, then Gazan and Hamas were heavily responsible for the Israeli fear and nervousness that led to those conditions, and the hardline leadership they chose to deal with it. When "Death to Israel" is already the base case, and the Gazans already facilitate, support and cheer for attacks like Oct 7th, what do you figure is happening here? Are they going from "hating Israel" to "really REALLY hating Israel?" Dead Hamas members will find it harder to attack Israeli cities, as will ones pushed away from Israeli borders and denied support, weapons and infrastructure. Israeli intransigence is cynical but realistic. It's absurd to imagine a good-faith peace process with a group that calls for your extermination. The Oslo Peace process wasn't nearly as close as you make it out to be, and it went on years after Rabin was assassinated. It was probably the best chance we've seen, however, and anything we've seen since has been delusional (like Obama's, or the Arab Peace Initiative).

Only in your imagination. You cannot and have not ever provided a single reference saying that. 🤣 No you weren't. I quoted that originally, because I already had it from work. I also haven't been misquoting it, because I'm literally directly quoting it. All the furious effort you spend pounding out these useless rants is wasted when you say so many stupid things in the first two lines.

Which made your original claim that Trudeau was responsible for over half of inflation obviously clueless all by itself. 😆 I'm not pretending anything. I'm quoting the report: "Supply challenges that largely reflect developments at the global level account for another 35% of the rise in inflation." That doesn't say "caused by Trudeau", does it? It doesn't even say "internal issues". That you're even attempting these donkey-brained mental backflips is absurd when it specifically says "largely reflect developments at the global level". You're derailing a thread by digging up and trying to rehash an argument you already embarrassed yourself from months ago. That's how belligerently stupid you are. 🤣

No. I don't think the hardliners wanted 1200 dead Israelis on their watch and hundreds of abducted hostages. Netanyahu has always positioned himself as the best man for a safe and secure Israel, and Ben-Gvir is the Minister of Security. This makes them both look like fools. It matters when their democracy, flawed as it may be, provides the checks and balances (including their judiciary) that prevents the worst among them from controlling everything. I think you're misrepresenting. The idea that Gaza was afflicted with Hamas is farcical when it's a homegrown Palestinian movement run by Palestinians and broadly supported by the Palestinians. 75% of Palestinians in Gaza supported the October 7th attack and believe it was justified. Read that again. Fully 3/4 of Gazans think it was good and right that their people stormed across the Israeli border, raped girls and women in front of their families, burned children and murdered or abducted anyone they came across. The idea that Gazans can fire 2200 cheap dumbfire rockets into Israeli cities in one day and that Israel has to retaliate with hundred thousand dollar guided missiles is as ridiculous as the idea Israel was ever going to be able to avoid widespread civilian casualties. Hamas made sure that was impossible. Gosh, so you're saying this isn't a hearts and minds campaign for the Israelis, and that you don't think they're winning them over? That boat sailed on Oct 7th. Now it's about eliminating/mitigating their ability to threaten Israelis, rather than their inclinations.

I really don't know, but we could just chalk this up to Trudeau being as unintelligent as he looks and acts. Maybe he thought he could win the next election. Maybe he thought he could paint anyone who opposed excess immigration as racist. Maybe he only listens to people who tell him what he wants to hear. Maybe he already knows he's doomed in the next election, and just wants to sow the seeds for a future return, or at least a Liberal revival down the road. It doesn't really matter in the end. When the touted purpose of doubling immigration is for long-term economic health, but the actual economists say it's going to do the opposite, we can only shake our heads and surmise.

Only in your little imagination. This was one of the dumbest and easiest-to-disprove of your clueless hot-takes, so if you're compelled to keep bringing it up and derailing threads, I can keep requoting the same thing while you huff and puff and look the fool. While you cluelessly ranted about Trudeau being responsible for over half of Canada's inflation in 2022, here's what the economists actually said: a. Around 50% of the increase in inflation observed since the end of 2019 can be ascribed to global or foreign factors. These include US inflation, commodity prices and movements in the exchange rate. b. Supply challenges that largely reflect developments at the global level account for another 35% of the rise in inflation. https://www.scotiabank.com/ca/en/about/economics/economics-publications/post.other-publications.inflation-reports.causes-of-inflation--december-5--2022.html

Nope. 🙄 Groot posted an article explaining that top economists point to Trudeau's immigration policy as making things less affordable. Those same economists also explained last year that most of 2022's high inflation was based on global factors, despite your brain-dead claims about more than half of it being Trudeau's fault. They have not revised their opinions on this, nor have I. Your clueless hot-takes are just as clueless now as they were many months ago.

Well it's widely known that they're both into some pretty weird stuff, so I think it's important that we have this conversation. If we don't find any evidence for it in the next couple of days, someone can take my posts down about it. Personally, I don't really know. I'm just asking questions. 🫠

The only thing I can think of is that this is some cynical ploy to stack the elections for the Liberals, with their assuming that immigrants are less likely to vote Conservative. There was never a good economic argument for upping the limit and plenty of evidence why it could be bad (especially with housing shortages and inflation spiking), and still with opinions souring more and more, Trudeau just plows ahead. This is an election-losing issue all by itself, and I think it's only going to get worse for the Liberals here. The policy has no future, Canadians obviously don't want it, so why else keep it?

Not just spurious and salacious, but also retarded. There is enough real stuff to criticize Trudeau for that low-effort and unimaginative sexual deviancy rumours peddled amongst dumdums in their basements is just embarrassing to listen to. I heard that Pierre Poilievre and Max Bernier get together and jerk each other off to bestiality vids. We should probably talk about that too, if only to acknowledge it's probably false? 🤔

The Cold War, which concluded with the collapse of the world's most powerful authoritarian regime and the liberalization and democratization of most of Eastern Europe...that's what led to more authoritarianism? What a weird take.

No it doesn't, because the whole point is that it's 7 seats out of 120, isn't a mandate and it doesn't put you at the steering wheel setting policy. Whatever concessions they may be able to get, they also have to make concessions from their views/beliefs. As it stands, this government will likely collapse soon anyways, with Netanyahu at <15% approval and the more moderate parts of his coalition not keen on his judicial reform, nevermind the disaster of Oct 7th. Whatever failings and inequity they have in their system, they're still a democracy and still answer to their people. By any objective standard of freedom or equality, Israel stands head and shoulders above its neighbours. That's some magical logic there though, isn't it? Despite being Palestinian and the governing authority in Gaza, made up by and recruited from Palestinians, supported by Palestinians and then lauded and cheered for their attacks (and hidden and abetted by them afterwards), the Palestinians are collectively blameless because they checked "no" on the democracy box? Oof. It's bizarre to me that you think anyone here is suggesting he is. One thing the IDF is entitled to do, however, is seek out and destroy Hamas. The fact that they're continuing their attacks and threats while hiding behind their own people doesn't magically render them impervious from response. Reverse that logic now, and tell us how living through numerous invasion attempts, constant terrorism and a jihadist government next door threatening your annihilation and swarming across your border to murder thousands of your civilians affects the Israelis. Applying your same reasoning, we can rest assured that this will embolden and encourage Israeli hardliners for generations to justify exactly what you're criticizing them for doing.