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Because the point was that the defense team had their star attorney publicly contradicting Donald's whining about the judge for almost a year, and he was never fired. In in the real world, this would undermine the argument, but in the reality distortion bubble, it fades from view along with the fact that Donald cries wolf and complains about the judge/jury/prosecutor etc as a matter of habit. All you're doing here is proving that you don't actually know what you're talking about: § 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree. A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof. The elevating crimes technically don't even need to have been committed at all, as long as you can prove beyond reasonable doubt that was the intention. Intention is important. It's what can elevate something like trespassing from a simple fine or misdemeanor to a serious felony. If you're caught trespassing in a Balaclava with bolt-cutters and a gun, now you're in the shit.

What were you saying about mental blocks?

We don't limit the choice of candidates. The list of candidates that people pay attention to is limited.

I never said it was his trial lawyer. I said his lawyer, because that's what he was when Judge Merchan was appointed as the judge for the case. No, they don't need Trump to be guilty of those other crimes. Other people can be guilty of those crimes. All that's required here is that Trump was knowingly involved in trying to hide them for his own benefit. This is one of the reasons why novel legal methods are often required for rich dirtbags and criminals who get patsies to do their dirty work and take the fall for them. In the reality distortion field, Cohen, Bannon, Navarro, Manafort, Papadopoulos, Roger Stone, Rick Gates etc were all convicted for committing crimes to help their boss, but their boss totally had nothing at all to do with them, rrright? 🙄

The sentiment isn't bad, even if it's overwritten. Here's my summary: Our dysfunctional politics are a direct result of our apathy and/or ignorance, resulting from but also encouraged by bad-faith politicians on either side who are more interested in enriching themselves. Why? Nobody holds them accountable. Instead, we get a performative pantomime where one side just points the finger at the other, whips up rage and emotion, whilst offering nothing positive or honest themselves. This is easiest to see in the USA, where you have obvious figures like Nancy Pelosi trying to defend how Congress' and their family's stock market portfolios outperform the indexes by ~12% per year because of insider trading, but that this should continue to be allowed because of "mumble mumble, something about free markets." Like...yeah, Donald Trump is a nightmare, but you're absurdly crooked too.

This one resigned from Trump's legal team in January, citing his "compass". You can't have one if you're working for Trump...that's why there's a long parade of lawyers who've quit/resigned from defending him. LOLOL!!! Nice try. I was responding directly to your quote...about prosecutors. 😑 Because that's not what was adjudicated. The fraud is the crime. Predicate offenses have already been proven. Michael Cohen went to jail for some. David Pecker's company admitted to others. They're the motive behind the fraud which elevates it from misdemeanor to felony. All the prosecutor had to prove was knowledge of and attempt to hide them. Appear to the folks living in their reality distortion bubble, who magically forgot that this is exactly what Trump campaigned on in 2016, or that he spent his entire presidency demanding the FBI and DoJ investigate his political opponents. "Lock her up! We should lock her up! We're going to lock her up!" etc etc.. -Trump, 2016 "I never said lock her up" - post conviction Trump, 2024. 🤣

First off, what are we complaining about the judge for, again? Trump's own star lawyer went on record saying he had no problem with who was assigned the case. The fact that he resigned and cut ties with Trump months later is probably part of the conspiracy...right!? As for the prosecutors, there are no rules/regulations/standards about not naming people, and nobody said what you're pretending they did. Okay, but nobody said anything like that. That's just something you made up. 🙃 Novel application of the law just means a new avenue of legal argument. There's nothing wrong with it. Giuliani brought down the NY mob with novel application of RICO, for example, and now that's the gold standard. Filthy rich criminals spent lavish sums on large legal and accounting teams to conceal and obfuscate what they're doing. Clever lawyers work around that. The trial was about the fraud, not the predicate offenses. All the prosecutor had to prove was that the fraud was committed, and that there was knowledge of it and the intent was to conceal those other offenses (some of which were already proven in other cases).

Hardly. Head prosecutors are politically elected, and they outline in their campaigns the types of crimes they will pursue. There's therefore always some manner of political motivation in their agendas. They're afforded a large margin of non-judicial discretion by the Courts for how their offices will employ their resources, and this is by intentional design. That is objective reality, and it's always been the case. Bogus, politically motivated prosecutions made in bad faith are not permitted, but political motivation isn't some magical disqualifier. The idea that Donald Trump didn't offer ample reason to investigate him, that he didn't betray and bully a long list of people who offered up evidence against him, and that he couldn't keep his dumb mouth shut and avoid incriminating himself - that's the reality-folding we're talking about. 😑

You can say whatever your little heart pleases, but none of those folks have to fold reality in on itself to shield themselves from basic facts on the ground, or to reconcile with the compulsive and obvious lying of a bullshit artist who's still complaining about make-believe election fraud. The evidence is that the low-information donkeys who hang on every word Trump says have been convinced by 8 years of his deliberate and constant undermining of the legal system. Go figure! It's no mystery why most of the folks who believe this trial was unfair are the same folks who still believe the election was stolen. 🤡

Because the <40% who don't think it's fair are the same MAGA donkeys who believe absolutely everything that fat orange baboon says no matter what. They're the same unthinking rubes who still believe the election was stolen. They were never going to think it was fair, nor will they think it's fair if he loses the election. Justice...against the people we don't like. Democracy...but only if our guy wins. That's the dopey logic you're peddling here. The American public didn't lose faith in the legal system. Donald Trump's MAGA apes did, because he spent the last 8 years doing everything he could to undermine their faith in it, and they can't think for themselves. Everything is crooked, everything is rigged - the election, the jury, the trial, the WHO - it's all out to get poor Donald. 🙄 They didn't have to bend the law. Donald Trump leaves a trail of folks he's ripped off, bullied or betrayed wherever he goes, and he's too dumb to not talk himself into trouble. Michael Cohen was his fall guy back in 2018, and now he's reaping his whirlwind.

Of course it was politically motivated. It was election-related fraud by a former president whose made a career out lying and talking trash. He has the emotional self-control of a 5-year old and can't stop himself from saying dumb shit that gets him in trouble. He couldn't have made himself a more obvious and welcome target for investigation if he'd been trying. Politically motivated, however, is not the same thing as unfair. Imagine that. Folks who blindly follow a man who's spent the last 8 years undermining the legal system, have lost faith in the legal system. Everyone else? Different story: They actually changed the laws to be able to go after Al Capone. He was an obvious criminal who flouted and ridiculed the law, but he had expensive lawyers and accountants and could spend his way out of trouble and hide his trail. Sounds like someone someone we know... They've already lost their goddamn minds. If they're only going to trust the election results if their guy wins, they don't actually believe in democracy, do they? Why are they all bragging about the polls right now?

He didn't say you did. He said your loser source should hang out with another loser source. Why would you link a macgregor podcast here, when we're making fun of you for being dumb enough to believe anything he says? You find new ways to make yourself look stupid every day. 👍

Good one. You see what you've done here, right?

Paying them back was the problem you donkey. That's what makes them "straw donors". If he didn't pay them, then they used their own money, which makes them just...donors. As for who they were, it was his assistant (employee) and his mistress. 🤡 Not as far over the limits as D'Souza, and she did it openly, with no attempts to disguise. The worst you can say about her is that she's stupid. The hiding of what you're doing is the problem. That's how they know you're breaking the law on purpose. 🫠

No. O'Donnell didn't commit a felony. She donated too much, too many times, but did it openly in her own name and listed her occupation. This is a routine matter, and an entire page is dedicated on the FEC's website on how to remedy excessive contributions: https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/candidate-taking-receipts/remedying-excessive-contribution/ D'Souza, on the other hand, used straw donors (mules) to donate in secret. That's a felony. Once again, the upstanding journalists at the NYP and Fox News are spinning tales for low-info donkeys to squawk about.

No, but did anyone accept fat Rosey's offers? No? Why are you bringing it up then? You must have forgotten the years Trump spent claiming Hilary was a criminal, that they needed to lock her up, and how he had the DoJ investigating the Clintons right up until he left office. The problem with your facts, just like your sources, ain't what you say they are. 🤡

Your questions are dumb. They're just clownworld delusions. John Oliver offered Clarence Thomas a $2M RV for resigning from the Supreme Court. You should add that to your list of apocalyptic affronts to Democracy. 🤡🤡🤡

Perception is a matter of perspective. In the MAGA cult's case, the perspective is the reality. You say any sane or rational observer sees this as a political hit job, but anyone not subscribing to the cult sees it as a garbage human being finally getting held to some sort of account. Al Capone didn't go down for murder, racketeering and bootlegging. He went down for tax crimes. Trump isn't being persecuted. He's reaping the rewards of all his hard work. It's cosmic irony to hear him try to spin and lie about this stuff now that he's been convicted. He's claiming now he never said "Lock her Up" when he was campaigning against Hilary. Like...Jesus Christ. How dumb are the rubes following him to believe that?

I mean, the rest of the MAGA asshats believe it, so they're going to keep squawking it back and forth to each other to the point where the delusion is reality.

No, you said you opposed stoopid people, which is unfortunate. If I was as dumb as you, I'd struggle with myself as well. 🤡

Says the one of dumbest clowns to ever post on this forum. 🤣

Hey Karen. I think the vaccine quackery thread is getting lonely without you.

LOL! What any of this has to do with transgender representation is a mystery, but Poopy Deluge's tribal programming was triggered, so this is the random boilerplate squawking that we're getting.

Pee-pee-poo-poo, the deluge down your leg.