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Lying is an inherent characteristic in all humans so logic dictates lying preceded religion and religious belief at the individual level before it was passed on collectively through religion. I tend to think lying is a primal trait especially used by Alpha males to gain control of their packs. Religion is simply primates forming packs led by an Alpha male who lies louder than his subjects. Interestingly with Baboons the Alpha is endowed with a very colourful and inflammed buttocks, just like religious leaders. The first liar was probably some Alpha trying to convince his next mate he would pay child support.

China has grown like a cancer using unfair dumping and currency fixing strategies to create huge trade imbalances in its favour. China and the US being the two biggest manipulators of free trade were bound to come head to head.

Trump is a rude insolent swine. He communicates like a dose of syphilis. Of course Acosta has used rubber gloves. Trump can not expect respect when he shows none. He has brought the havoc on himself by choosing to be a large a-hole. Proctology exams are a bitch no matter who does them not just Acosta. As for Sarah Huckabee she eats new born babies for breakfast. She is one of those monster aliens from Lost In Space. We need Dr. Zachary Smith to deal with her.

Being a little bit pregnant...yah funny how that does not really work well...You know where I stand and it ain't a little bit preggo. Your point is taken.

I debate with you on this. I know you give individuals your time of day. I just have to be very consistent on this because if nothing else I need to practice what I preach and I do and have had life events where I have seen as many Muslim victims of Muslim terrorism as I have non Muslims. I will stop preaching but I think all religions are in various stages of reform and hopefully will continue to do so. As for Winny the poo he couldn't understand why we would nor move to Uganda so excuse me while I admire him I also take him with a grain of imperialist salt. Uh yah don't get me going on that payment to Hamas.

I had to think about that one. ... Kanye West.

NOT ALL Muslims take suggestions fro the Koran let alone ones we would both define as extremist. I am well aware that many Muslims do not yet read or have sufficient training to read the Koran and rely on Mullahs or Imams to tell them what to think. Yes I am aware of radical Islam, terrorism, the relation to anti-semitism, violence, etc. Yes. However why would I lump all Muslims in one negative generalization? That is illogical. It alienates progressive and humanist Muslims who are just as targeted for hatred by Muslim fundamentalists as non Muslims and does what the terrorists want, have Muslims believe we hate them all. Stereotyping all Muslims as thinking the same way is the very dialogue I challenge and whether it's done to them, or anyone else that is as wrong as the thought patterns we challenge at Al Quds rallies. Its simplistic, bigotry. Leave it for neo Nazis.

Let's be clear. Israel is a JEWISH state. The people who march at the Al Quads rally march because they are against it being JEWISH. If it was a Muslim state they have no problems. When people address and speak at these rallies they do NOT see the difference between Jews and Israeli Jews, so how about you ask them if they see the difference. How do you not hear the words in the speeches at these what the references and comments are at this rally? You think these participants conveniently separate Jews from Israelis and tell Norman Podhoretz in his 1982 essay “J’Accuse,” stated and I quote: “Historically, anti-Semitism has taken the form of labeling certain vices and failings as specifically Jewish when they are in fact common to all of humanity: Jews are greedy, Jews are tricky, Jews are ambitious, Jews are clannish — as though Jews were uniquely or disproportionately guilty of all those sins. Correlatively, Jews are condemned when they claim or exercise the right to do things that all other people are accorded an unchallengeable right to do. .....all other people are entitled to national self-determination, but when the Jews exercise this right, they are committing the crimes of racism and imperialism,” That is the bottom line. The people who are against Jews having a collective national identity do not hold the same standards to argue against Muslim, Christian or other nations affiliated with a religious collective identity, only Jews. The dialogue at these rallies expresses hatred against all Jews, not just Israeli Jews and even if it only expressed it against Israeli Jews, its a double standard against Jews and hatred against Jews for exercising the same rights as non Jews. At the pith and substance of this rally is a denial of Jews having or being capable of having the same rights as Muslims. It comes from the belief in Sharia Law and Muslim religion that Jews can not own land or have the same legal status and rights as Muslims-we are defined as dhimmi, inferiors unable to have such rights. Eye tries to rationalize this ancient discriminatory belief entrenched in Islam as being acceptable since it discriminates only against Jews. I do distance myself from Dog on The Porch in making the blanket statement Islam is anti Semitism. Not all Muslims believe in dhimmitude or are anti Israeli. In fact Muslims died in the IDF fighting for Israel and some donated land to Israel so for those Muslims who Israel defines as righteous, and for progressive Muslims who reach out to Israel and accept it as a Jewish state and Jews as equals....for their sake I won't throw them under the bus and label them in with anti semitic Muslims thank you. Just as I ask others don't assume all Jews think the same way about our religion or collective identity and define all Muslims as the enemy. We do not. Some do, not all. Some of us on both sides of the religious aisle happen to respect one another and consider ourselves equals.

Ironically it is preserved today to try undo past unfair practices to aboriginals but creates new ones in so doing. The reservation system does have serious socio-economic issues and political corruption yes. Self-government might not be the problem but instead an incompetent federal government including elected members and the civil service branch as well as corrupt aboriginal representatives.

At Trump yes..at US soldiers who died, no. Big diff.

Trump is ignorant. End of story. Ok so powerful financial interests usually are who is behind these wars.. Instead of focusing on what you think you can not do or control try find out who is doing something and not sitting on their ass whining like you. Your helplessness is self inflicted by you choosing to buy into the myth you are powerless. The only thing that controls you is your own fear and hatred. It cripples you from seeing alternatives other than the world you feel trapped in. Who needs an army to suppress people Ike you when you are only more than too happy to place yourself in your own self limiting jail. Oh look who is coming Your new bunk mate Bubba Abdul. Lol you better learn yoga fast.

You never fail to amaze me with your lack of logic. To start with the world is full of soldiers, the majority who have not started or engage in wars. Next, soldiers do not start or end wars, politicians do. Next Switzerland has been the site for stolen money from corrupt dictators and tyrants who start wars. Switzerland has in fact enabled the financing of wars. Switzerland's banks are full of money stolen in wars. Taxme just once, once, give it a thought before you write. You would not write what you do if you were not privileged and an elitist yourself. Yoy would be the first demanding a person in military uniform come rescue you in times of trouble. I thank Army Guy and everyone past, present or in the future who does service for this nation. Thank you. To Army Guy and the rest of you vets, all I can do to show respect is silence. No words can say it. Now back to Army Guy, yah I know its not easy listening to Trudeau sound all solemn and sanctimonious when he has done so little for vets. It's what he is. Next I think though at least Trudeau has manners. I hate his politics but he has manners. He carries himself at such ceremonies with proper deference. Imagine though being American. The President of the US did not show up at the service for his own vets because it was "raining". Trump never ceases to lower himself to the lowest form of life. How a an can be so void of decency and absolutely desecrate the memory of his vets let alone POTUS is beyond the pale. If anyone things Trump is a conservative you would be dead wrong. Conservatives believe in tradition and ceremonies. Trump ridicules and mocks them. Trump is a classic fascist if there ever was one. If the ceremony does not evolve around worshipping him, he ridicules it. Even the memory of sacrifice of soldiers is such a threat to his fragile ego he won't defer to that memory.

Looks like you got another Nov. 11, that started at around 8.10 pm.

Looks like some pathetic spambot is polluting the threads.. I have reported it. They may multiply to every topic and may be trying to put trackers on people who respond but whoever it is appears to be very clumsy and using an old technique.

Charles looks like the site is under attack from a political spambot trying to multiply and shut down the site.

There are people of every political persuasion and belief that disagree with Trump's behaviour and some or many of his comments, policies. I do note you switched from labelling anyone who disagrees with Trump a pig leftist liberal to communist crybaby snowflake losers. That provides powerful insight and analysis not to mention an explanation as to why some Jews don't eat leftist liberals.

I note you directed the above comment at Ghost. I totally agree with you. Who says I never do. On a more serious note. You often respond claiming a global elite runs the world and everyone is a pawn in it. That is your belief. It reflects your feeling of impotency or insignificance or powerlessness. Miracles are being performed every day by people making a difference. The fact you are not aware of them does not mean they do not exist. Everyday there are doctors, teachers, other professionals helping sew the seeds of positive consequences. Miracles start with basic acts, the smallest and simplest of acts that give, expecting nothing in return. From the sounds of it you can't conceive of such concepts.

You clearly are not married.

Misquoting what I said and continuing with the insipid comments means what now. Do you want to make a blanket statement that all Islamic doctrine is evil and Islam hates Jews. Say so. Don't respond to me with passive aggressive snide comments. Spit it out or be quiet, My point remains any blanket generalization of any ideology is inevitably going to fuel inaccurate assumptions, labels and stereotypes and precisely the kinds that fuel the anger in mass shooters. Your last comment was idiotic. You hear? Did you hear Islam loves you or just Jews? Its not sarcastic, its just drivel.

No what he said was: "He (Trudeau) gave a generic answer, not the specific condemnation which was appropriate." The generic answer did not answer and in fact avoided the answer by remaining generic. For it to have been an actual answer it would have had to contain the specific condemnation. The generic answer was a posed answer that in fact contained no answer and in fact a voided providing an answer, There is nothing "retarded" in the post he provided. I also don't think it woild ne appropriate to suggest you response above is "retarded" for missing his point.

You whine about the thread being made about you but ou insist on drawing attention to yourself. The comments were not for you and based on a general discussion as to the kind of phrasing that can lead to negative generalizations. Can you grow up and stop trying to get my attention with insipid remarks. If you have nothing to contribute, be quiet and go bait someone else.

Not the way Ahmadis practice Islamic doctrine. Not the way Ismaelis practice Islamic doctrine. Not the way Liberal Muslims (Sunni, Shiite) practice Islamic doctrine. Not the way Circassian Muslims practice Islamic doctrine. The "doctrine" as you call it, mutates, or changes shape or changes meaning depending on whose hands it is in. At one point the Torah and the way Jews practiced it was considered the implacable enemy of the Western World. Taxme and many on this board still believe that cloaking it as being "anti Zionist". The way the KKK or other extremist groups practice Christian doctrine that doctrine can become the implacable enemy of Western civilization. What is your point? Is your point that Islamic doctrine can never be used by a Muslim to support Western values? It is done every day by Muslims in Canada. Are you saying they can not? I am the first to argue Islam has references to dhimmitude and describing Jews and Christians and non believers as inferior and not allowed to own land let alone have nations but do every single Muslim believe that in this world? I am the first to say many Muslims of the Middle East still believe their Islamic doctrine says that and its at the root of the conflict between Israel and Palestine but does it mean every single Muslim thinks that way? No I don't throw the entire religion under the bus. Why would I? Christianity has been used to justify war and slavery, and so was Judaism at one point and a minority of extremist Jews on the West Bank have uses Judaism to justify violence. Dies that mean all Judaism is violent? Judaism and Christianity took a long time to evolved past such interpretations of their doctrines and still are evolving...,just as Islam is doing with its Muslim moderates and progressives including many who came to Canada to get away from extremists of their own religion. Islam has not been around as long as Judaism or Christianity. Its back where both Judaism and Christianity were before they moved on. So that is where you and I will always strongly differ. I will NOT give Islamic doctrine an all or nothing definition. I believe like any religion it mutates or morphs in the hands of its user. I believe as individuals, we have the gift of free choice and the choice to use any of these doctrines for mutual benefit and peace or to divide is within each of us,. I do not believe in religion as a pre-existing force outside our souls that controls us but we can't control and are simply condemned to follow without question. I don't buy into that the exact same reason I don't buy into Satanism, or Hedonism either. Its why I will not define all Muslims as being the enemy of Israel or the West or Jews simply assuming because they are Muslim it has to be that way. That is as defective and negative stereotypical as assuming all Jews or all Zionist Jews are the enemy of the West as the anti Zionists and anti semites do on this board. How many times have I heard the anti-semitic stereotype that we Jews think we are "chosen" meaning we think we are superior to non Jews. People say that as well about Muslims and Christians as well and pointing to their religious wars and slavery how they try to convert people. We Jews at one point were involved in wars with non Jews and forced conversion on people and had slaves and evolved. So then did Christians. Why won't the same evolution also happen with Islam? Don't suggest I am naïve. I don't apologize for Muslim extremist beliefs or terrorism on this board but no, I won't throw out the entire religion and doctrine and therefore anyone who practices Islam automatically as an enemy of the West. That is as a bigoted or close minded as what Taxme et al say about Jews couched as Zionists. I call you out for the same reason with Muslims and I have called others out when they have made negative generalizations about Christian religion in a sweeping generalistic manner. I have the exact same problem with how any religion is used violently or to hate or justify division but inversely I have the same respect when any religious doctrine is used to promote tolerance, peace. How the individual chooses to use these religions begins and ends with their free choice. By the way Dawkins may have been an atheist but he did not label all believers of a greater thing beyond all things in a negative manner. He was respectful at all times in his debates. In fact I support his respect of apes and his argument they should not be caged. He was a very tolerant individual. He didn't claim he was all knowing. In fact he denied it. I embrace that. I do not claim to know anything other than that I know its not right to think I know about how others use their words until they write them, then I debate them and I then could be right or wrong in my responses. When I see people making negative assumptions about an entire people, yah I challenge it. Yes some religious followers are zombies, terrorists, brain-washed or have lost their free will and they create havoc. They not their religion are being controlled either by their own primal behaviours they can't repress or by deficient emotional, psychological or physical phenomena that make them easy to manipulate for the interests of another. People who choose to use religion to justify violence however turn themselves not their religion into the weapon. The doctrine is not what kills, its the way they use the doctrine to justify getting a gun and shooting that does. So we must ask why did they believe their doctrine gave them only the choices they decided upon. What would cause them to believe the only method of expression of their beliefs, values, feelings, was through violence? Your labelling the doctrine avoids asking those questions and so will never be able to resolve what causes the USE of the doctrine not the doctrine itself to go bloody.

In the first comment you accuse the "left wing lying liberal media" and "some politicians" trying to get people all worked up and "want (sic)to go out and commit killings. You accuse them of trying to create divisions among all races and religions. Then less then two sentences later you single out a Muslim woman and single out her race and religion under the label "aliens" who refuse to assimilate and hate our values and way(sic) of doing things. Its there for all to see. You slur Muslims as refusing to assimilate and hate our values and ways of doing things with the label aliens. Now see her being Muslim was crucial for you to single out, but then suddenly she becomes a part of a bigger group called "aliens". How do you know all these aliens. What is it in you that assumes these "aliens" including this Muslim liar of course, refuse to assimilate and hate "our" values? Did you talk to these "aliens" and find this out or do you assume any one who is a Muslim is a liar and fits in this category or anyone who is black, a Jew, not the kind of Christian you like, etc., is an alien? Hmmm? You don't even have the balls after using a lying Muslim as an example of the kind of alien you hate, to admit you hate only those aliens that don't meet your definition of approved migrant. That brings us to this earlier comment from you and I quote: "Everything is all about me. So? LOL. Aren't you always here defending and protecting your people (Jews)? Why can I not do the same about my people? " When I asked you in the past who your people were you in a previous post you said white people. As you are aware David Duke says Jews are not white people but the left when defining who visible minorities are call us Jews white. More importantly when I pushed you on the word white and asked you if you consider Jews are white and whether you are protecting Jews, you said you meant whites from Britain. What about whites that want nothing to do with you? Do you protect them? Do you think by hating Jews or people other than "your people" that hatred of others protects whites? Its an interesting method of protection, going around wearing Nazi uniforms, hoods, burning crosses. See now you ask me aren't I always defending and protecting "your" people. Well if you mean humans, i.e., Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone against being innocently killed or hated, you bet I do and not just Jews. If it was only Jews it would be a moot point. The sad thing is you don't stop at Jews do you?

Yes I saw the "memo" you wrote on this forum and reproduced it and you now try deny it. You stated on Oct. 2, 2016 in a response to the thread " Israel War Crimes Part 2", the following words: "You should listen to Brother Nathaniel, David Duke and James Edwards for a change. You might learn something like I have." You did in fact tell people to listen to Duke and learn from him. You clearly don't stand behind your words and opinions. As quick as you say you do, you deny them. Clearly you are afraid. Your closet is where you hide is in fact under a cloak called "patriotic conservatism".

1-I probably have yes but the reason I challenge your words and its your words I challenge and your positions you state you defend and agree with, that I challenge. 2-This is not about "throwing something in that maybe should not have been said....". Don't pose as an innocent victim under attack for your views. Wear what you write. You came on this forum back in 2016 to say you support David Duke the former head of the KKK and a crack pot anti semite called Brother Nathaniel. You made a point of advertising that. Then you denied your KKK connection. You asked me for the words. I showed them. You said you wrote them and stand by them. Then in the next breath claim I am a liar suggesting you support neo Nazism and the KKK which is exactly what Duke does. Anyone can go on the internet and find his connection to neo Nazi movements, wearing Nazi uniforms in public, being deported from Czechoslovakia and Italy for neo Nazi rallies-supporting the neo Nazi Ernst Zundel in Canada, on and on. You came on this thread and decided to use it to respond to the innocent of killing of Jews by stating Jews victimize people. That is called inversion. Christians are being shot dead in churches, Jews in synagogues, Muslims in Mosques. Responding to that by suggesting Muslims victimize or Jews victimize is being called out as it should be. It's not material or relevant to why this person attacked innocent people. Using your reasoning women who are raped have no right to challenge rape because other women have abused men or women. Using your argument, the killing of innocent Christians in church should not be discussed because other Christians are in the KKK or attack people. Using your argument innocent Muslims being killed is not to be discussed because other Muslims are terrorist extremists. You use such divisive generalizations and are challenged on them. Every time you assign any group you identify as a group with negative generalizations or characteristics, you engage in the very same behavioural process as that killer and I will challenge that kind of hateful cognitive processing. Period. 3-That point being made by me isn't making you dizzy. You just don't like being called out for your views. Duke continues as we speak to promote the white genocide conspiracy theory and says claims we Jews are "organising white genocide. Of course I challenge you and he for such views and call you out on this thread for what you are saying about Jews. Why would that make you dizzy? Here is a quote from Duke: "They're (Jews) trying to exterminate our race. I think, probably in a moral sense, the Jewish people have been a blight. I mean as a whole, not every Jew. And they probably deserve to go into the ashbin of history. But saying that and actually shooting or killing people in masses, are two different things. I'm not advocating extermination. I think the best thing is to resettle them in someplace where they can't exploit others. And I don't think they can live among themselves, I really don't." Finally why do you call yourself a patriotic conservative? Why are you afraid to call yourself a white supremacist. Do you deny you think whites are superior to blacks and Jews? Go on say it. Say you love Jew Christ killers, blacks, Muslims, Catholics, Siekhs. Say it. Lol. Why do you tell people to learn from David Duke and then utter you are a patriotic conservative and not a KKK or neo Nazi supporter? Does it sound better for you? You think it hides you follow the views and agenda of Duke against Jews that you told us we can learn from? Anyone can call themselves as liberal, a conservative, a socialist. Quite frankly we all throw out the words on this forum loosely. All of us. However unlike you I don't tend to read or learn from David Duke like you do. I prefer people who make me dizzy when I read. I don't doubt you get dizzy when someone tries to explain to you fiscal conservative does not want governments spending out of control and incurring huge debts as Trudeau is doing.....or if they tell you a bio-conservative has great concerns about certain kinds of technological advances, i.e., cloning, mutation of seeds and food sources, genetic engineering, artificial intelligence.....or that an environmental conservative has great concerns that we are not preserving our ecosphere and obeying the rules of nature which they believe an inherent set of rules we humans must follow or by rejecting face extermination of not just our life form but many others on this planet.....or if they tell you a classic conservative believes the individual is given the gift of free will and that political freedom can't exist without economic freedom and so this is why they prefer market driven economies than centrally controlled or communist state run economic markets....or that while they support certain institutional values such as the rule of law, having a constitution, having traditions that encourage law and order, stability, peace, it does not mean it prevents or suspends individual rights. Your attempts to create inversion and suggest Jews are victimizers on a thread discussing killing innocent Jews is just a variation of the bullcrap inversion anti semites engage in over the holocaust and attacks in history on Jews for thousands of years. This is why you claim Jews killed Christ. This then suits your inversion argument that Jews are not murdered buyt are murderers and so deserve to be murdered. Oh I get it Taxme. Patriotic conservatism no. Its called Jew hate.