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BC I am not here to insult you. I am here to challenge anyone ridiculing what Army Guy was trying to discuss. Look at the level Eye is at. Childish passive aggressive remarks from spoiled brats need challenging. Leave it at that and an apology to you if you were not dissing Army Guy and I took it out of context. I respect you and your posts.

Precisely the childish response expected.

I have zero issue coming on this board, caling out the insincere passive aggressive remarks and defending what Argus said verbatim. If someone wants to debate it have the balls to do so.

Please clarify. What are you responding to? Is it in response to Army Guy because again what the hell does I t have to do with a thing he said? Do explain your process for inferring the above from what he said. Sounds to me like you want to take a complex issue you can't understand that he explained and then because you could not understand it, project your own simplistic inferences on what he said to arrive at your new conclusion which reflects your confusion not his. Hope that was not too complex to decipher. Probably was. I am sure if he spoke of something you agreed with you would be the first on here using it to piss on your favourite targets.

Nothing in what he said even remotely attaches to your comments in content, subject matter, or focus of concerns highlighted. The fact that you try attack him personally and make smarmy comments that he wants to stage a military coup speaks to your closed bigoted mind and intolerance to any views but your own.

Did you say that to mock and ridicule the comments Army Guy said? Go on spit it out. Don' make passive aggressive snarky comments, state why you think anything he said was not legitimate in content or concern. Can you? Come on BC totally out of line. If you have no respect why come on here and show it? Has it established a salient point? You did get a giggle though.

Spoken like a true silver spooned sheltered privileged entitled elitist. Those war bonds and the troops you giggle at took down a way of life you are so pampered and sheltered from you can't fathom it. This is why I have such contempt for this dripping elitist snot faced tone. You mock but you haven't a clue what you mock.

Or try change both. Call me naïve but we need people to join the political system and armed forces and change both. The only way to have that happen is to openly question and engage in critical challenges. Its easy to come on this forum and giggle about what he said. The gigglers giggle because they have the fatness of privileged sheltered lifestyle to jiggle about. I never thought I would live in a country where people turn terrorists into multi-millionaire privileged elitists and leave soldiers to rot. It makes me puke. I want it changed. I support what Argus says.

Again can't argue with any of the above BC. I have said it from day one, Canada's decision to be over-dependent on the US will of course makes us vulnerable to American protectionist policies and that everyone knows on this board left or right in Canada I also concede America engages in protectionism no different than we do in Canada. I concede our nation has been lazy in the sense of not investigating in alternative markets and looking outside US and Chinese markets so you are dead on, if we don't like it, we have to change it. That is not the fault of the US. Changing the subject a bit but including NAFTA, Canada has to reach out for new markets other than China and the US. No point whining about that. Next Canada US relations and for that matter US relations with any nation is far larger in complexity, meaning and duration than one President who is in term for at most 8 years which is not that much if we put it in perspective. However I could argue some Presidents made lasting contributions for future generations across the world such as both Roosevelts, Truman, Eisenhower. Trudeaus and Trumps come and go yes. You are dead on. They in the big picture are distractions really. You also know my biases. I have always been pro American foreign policy most of the time until Obama came in. I actually think the UN Ambassador for the US Nicki Haley is brilliant and fresh air in a corrupt UN. I personally have problems with many international organizations corrupted by foreign governments with questionable agendas. I just think Trump undermined what she was doing and turned himself into a fool before the UN making countries like China and Iran look good. The problem with Trump is because he has become so out of control and lunatic fringe any relevant issues to do with Chinese predatory pricing, Iran and its funding of g terrorism and engaging in terror against its own citizens and embracing the likes of Putin and Kim, has compromised US foreign policy. Also for purely selfish Canadian reasons I think without the US in the World Trade Organization it is just not as effective. My issues are specific to Trump and specific but not necessarily all isolationist policies he wants the US to embrace.There is a limit to how much he thinks he can detach the US from world markets before that becomes deluded paranoid lunacy but that is for Americans to decide. I just think Obama removed the US from world stage, and now so has Trump and this gives China and Russia more power. I personally believe he is sabotaging the US as per the barks of Putin who dangles photos of him being pissed on by Melania on his head. Lord knows what Putin has on him.

Can't argue with any of the above BC. Most of what you say I agree with, I have said it from day one, Canada's decision to be over-dependent on the US will of course make us vulnerable to American protectionist policies. America engages in protectionism no different than we do in Canada. We were lazy in the sense of not investigating in our own businesses and looking outside US markets. Changing the subject a bit but including NAFTA, Canada has to reach out for new markets other than China and the US. No point whining about that. Next Canada US relations and for that matter US relations with any nation is far larger in complexity, meaning and duration that a President who is in term for at most 8 years which is not that much if we put it in perspective Trudeaus and Trumps come and go. You also know my biases. I have always been pro American foreign policy most of the time until Obama came in. I actually think the UN Ambassador for the US Nicki Haley is brilliant and fresh air in a corrupt UN. I personally have problems with many international organizations corrupted by foreign governments with questionable agendas. I think Trump undermined what she was doing and turned himself into a fool before the UN making countries like China and Iran look good. The problem with Trump is because he has become so out of control and lunatic fringe any relevant issues to do with Chinese predatory pricing, Iran and its funding of g terrorism and engaging in terror against its own citizens and embracing the likes of Putin and Kim, has compromised US foreign policy

In regards to your first comment I would not expect any of the three countries to do anything but negotiate to protect their interests. Its Trump who has a problem understanding that and misrepresents Canadian negotiators of being too hard-ball while he makes idiot threats about tariffs and hurls personal insults at imagined slights against him interfering with the hard work his negotiators are doing patronizing them as if they need Trump to make loud farting noises to bolster their positions. In regards to your second comment I think the Canadian press may at times mistake our meaning in the US but may I say most of us Canadians are very aware how unaware US politicians and Americans are of Canada to the point we have comedies on it on t.v. and have an inferiority complex about it yes. I would hope some of us know the difference between our individual subjective impressions of American ignorance which I would argue you call indifference. I am confident US citizens doing business with Canada are well aware of what Canadian trade means to them. We Canadians are never surprised at American protectionist policies that constantly have violated NAFTA and destroyed many of our industries prior to Nafta. We are well aware the US constantly violated Nafta and was held accountable in the dispute resolution process for the constant violations and so rather than acknowledge it's litany of violations at this time, wants to now get rid of the dispute resolution process so it can can continue to violate any new agreement. Have Trump explain to you who in fact violated Nafta and abused who and how he wants to be able to continue that abuse and considers preventing that abuse through a dispute resolution process abusive. The analogy is Trump wants to continue beating his wife and if his wife says no more, she is abusing him, and better still if the law tries to hold him responsible, the law is abusive. We are well aware the same Trump who claims we abuse dairy farmers slapped a punitive tarrif on Bomardier aircraft sales and has no problem engaging in the very practices he accused Canada of. I can say most Canadians don't expect a damn thing from the US but quid pro quo.Canadians do not need your love as much as you think although I do but only in the case of Halle Berry or Jennifer Lopez. Yes we are too dependent which makes us vulnerable to the US acting as our drug pusher.We need to get off the juice of find another supplier. In regards to your last comment I would think at this point the entire world including Americans will be happy when Trump goes. Also if I am a Trudeau lover I want Trump on office. Anyone at this pointvstanding up to Trump automatically looks good. I say that as generralizations. For me Trump is just an ignorant simpleton who if I do catch him on t.v. is simply a reminder of the difficult behaviour problems associated with Alzheimer's and men with bad haircuts.

I would not put any credence on anything Trump says. He has made it clear his rhetoric contradicts itself and changes itself at a moment. He has no consistency and no intelligent design in what he says. He has shown he can not handle nuance, meta communication or coded language. He can't read let alone read between the lines or be subtle. Trump went into Nafta thinking he did not have to understand it's complexities and if he was rude, threw out some belligerent ultimatums, this would be a good tactic. He says as much in his art of the deal book where he claims being rude, belligerent and aggressive are good pressure tactics. He has no clue why that would or could be counter productive and how it in effect has empowered those that stand up to the rudeness. He has no clue about what he is blowing up. To him this is personal, everything that challenges him in his mind warrants a rude personal insult in response because he has a narcissistic personality disorder. Any view or position he does not agree with is to be called fake, false, and the messenger or holder of that view is to be defined as something inferior to be insulted. He most certainly does and did intend to insult all Canadians with his words and will continue to do so. The fact he insults all Canadians, then says he likes Canadians, means nothing. He constantly disconnects and says the exact opposites. He has a personality disorder manifested in constant opposite statements. Go back and listen to any speech he gives. He makes a statement. Then he says something the exact opposite. Then he goes back to the first statement. He has no fixed view. The only thing constant is his personal attacks on everyone He thinks disagrees with him. Wife beaters often say sorry they did not mean it. That is the abusive behaviourv Trumpn ngages in. He abuses, then poses himself as the victim and the target of his abuse as the abuser. Make no mistake this is not about any Canadian rep. It is about all Canada and the entire world in Trump's mind. He stated at the UN the entire world is a problem for him. Listen to his speech. This is a man who sees the entire world as a problem.

I think you are at least bloody frank about Trump. I am not so sure if people in the states that do business with Canada are as aloof as you think. It could be they have something to say in the mid terms about that.

I agree. Trump has been out to blow up Nafta and all trade agreements his country has entered into with other countries.

In regards to 1, democracy is the fundamental principle of having the majority of peoples' opinions considered. It does not mean in democracies, laws are only based on majority rule and nothing else as your comment necessarily concludes and assumes. Therefire the comment is illogical. If democracy was only based on majority role and no other criteria it would create chaos and not be able to continue functioning. In regards to comment 2, people often are given identical information and conclude different things from it. This is why we have legal disputes and court actions, political debate, conflict. Again the writer assumes people automatically think the same when they are given the same information. This is her subjective assumption. People's perception of the same information is not necessarily the same otherwise there would be no conflict. To say it is as she has done is therefore absurd, illogical and contradicts the most basic of human behaviour patterns, conflicting opinions based on the same information given to them. In regards to the third incoherent statement above, the writer again makes assumptions and generalizations based on subjective speculation. Like" her" other 2 comments "she" has no objective basis, statistics or information to base her conclusions. Her comments make no sense if for no other reason, people may not bother to consider"all the facts" as "she" states, because there may be too many to consider and they become overwhelming to consider , but also because the relevant facts may never have been disclosed, only certain facts were disclosed to prevent a full analysis to be able to offer an accurate analysis from which to conclude anything or because only immaterial facts were disclosed or because the subject matter was too complex for the audience or beyond their intellectual or academic levels perception to understand. A classic example of that is the writer not being able to understand what I just wrote. Again the writer fails to consider other possibilities and makes a sweeping assumption there is only one possibility and that is her possibility and she has nothing to back up her conclusion. In regards to the 4th comment, she again makes an incoherent and absurd comment. She first assumes nothing we conclude is true or false which inherently makes no sense when common sense alone would dictate sometimes are beliefs and conclusions are verifiable based on objective methodology and therefore accurate and sometimes are not verifiable or measurable and therefore inaccurate or reliable to base a conclusion because they rely on unverifiable subjective assumptions. She also fails to consider sometimes we may be right and wrong but "right" and "wrong" is a fluid subjective definition the way she uses it. In her world "right" is the conclusion she agrees with, I would suggest in the real world "right" and "wrong" are moral judgements and she interposes them with conclusions and assumes her moral judgements are absolute truths which is illogical. She also makes the ridiculous comment that logic is always there. Not with her. She demonstrates her entire world is based on what she thinks is "right" or "wrong" when I would suggest her moral conclusions are not universal truths just her subjective beliefs. I would argue conclusions that are base on verifiable objective methodology are more reliable than her subjective moral beliefs or subjective assumptions. I would argue no one knows truth, at best we think we do and that if we can't prove something with objective methodology its a subjective opinion which is necessarily limited and suspectyas it isn't based on anything that can be proven. When studying human behaviour and thought processes and cognitive functioning, we know many human behaviours are arbitrary and irrational and not based on logic (objective methodology) at all but in fact are distorted perceptions that arise due to misinformation, neurological, psychological, psychiatric, physical, spiritual or emotional phenomena interfering with our perceptions and distorting what we think we see or decipher and therefore what we conclude. Of course logic does not always exist. In fact it mostly does not exist. We are constantly challenged to make it exist to make the world we are born into more understandable and civilized. I would argue the writer, a composite of Islamic fundamentalist extremist thought sources, (sometimes called boys, terrorists, radicals, angry disenfranchised youth unable to assimilate into the Western mosaic))projects and expresses intransigent, inflexible, rigid, limited, closed, undeveloped, arbitrary, subjective thought patterns that produce absurd assumptions that defy basic common sense. I believe they reflect a lack of ability to engage in critical thought processes and are a result of being conditioned to not question but instead repeat back blindly, dogma from a Mullah and never question it.

Here is info on what goes on in the US: https://www.insideprison.com/Crime_Rates_Detailed_splash.asp?crime=361&crimeName=Incest Now why did I refer you to the US? Because and I quote: "Outside the U.S., there has been only one comparably reliable study published: a thirteen-hundred-page report on face-to-face interviews of over 2,000 men and women done for the Canadian government by the Gallup organization, which concludes with incidence rates approximately the same as the U.S. studies." source:http://www.rationalskepticism.org/social-sciences/just-how-common-is-incest-t9841.html May I point out that the no. of charges filed in regards to ANY crime won't accurately predict the actual rate of crimes for the simple reason most crimes never get reported. Particularly in sexual offence crimes most sex crimes are never reported. With any sex crime and in particular sexual assault and incest, people are reluctant to lay charges fearing the stigma attached. From https://www.sexassault.ca/statistics.htm consider these stats: Of every 100 incidents of sexual assault, only 6 are reported to the police 1 - 2% of "date rape" sexual assaults are reported to the police 1 in 4 North American women will be sexually assaulted during their lifetime 11% of women have physical injury resulting for sexual assault Only 2 - 4% of all sexual assaults reported are false reports 60% of sexual abuse/assault victims are under the age of 17 over 80% of sex crime victims are women 80% of sexual assault incidents occur in the home 17% of girls under 16 have experienced some form of incest 83% of disabled women will be sexual assaulted during their lifetime 15% of sexual assault victims are boys under 16 half of all sexual offenders are married or in long term relationships 57% of aboriginal women have been sexually abused 1/5th of all sexual assaults involve a weapon of some sort 80% of assailants are friends and family of the victim It goes on to state this caution: The above noted statistics have been taken from various studies across Canada. While the numbers can never been 100% accurate, a few key generalizations can made: sexual assault is far more common than most would suspect relatively few incidents of sexual assault are reported to the police young and otherwise vulnerable women are most likely to be sexually abused most sexual assaults are committed by someone close to the victim, not a stranger . Also this from: https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/a18194469/incest-porn-trend/ "Incest in the real world is often extremely traumatic and criminal and can have profound mental health implications—namely, because the victims are so often children. In the 63,000 sexual abuse cases substantiated to Child Protective Services every year, 80 percent of the perpetrators are a parent, and 6 percent are other relatives, according to RAINN. Even after the age of 18, factors of youth, emotional immaturity, and the power dynamic between say, a father and daughter figure, are no easier to reconcile." In my past work and people in the family and child protection sectors, police and counsellors/psychologists/psychiatrists can tell you it happens and in some communities it APPEARS more prevalent than in others but whether it is or not we don't really know. In my work I saw it a lot in the Guyanese, Portugese, Trinidadian, Indian and various Middle East and Muslim states, i.e., Syria, Lebanon, Pakistan. I can't say whether it is actually higher but we know in Syria people married into their own families because of civil war and distrust of people outside their families. We know in Pakistan its prevalent and in communities with incest, the rates in regards to 14 specific gene mutations are very high and the average i.q. of an incest child not seriously damaged by genetic mutation is much lower. Nature did not intend for gene pools to inbreed. It increases the risk of severe deformities, neurological and mental illnesses, cancer and other diseases not to mention lowers life expectancy. I can also tell you there does appear to be a pattern where the more rural and isolated one is with a lack of availability of potential partners outside the immediate family, the more likely incest is. Incest is not limited to poor people by any means. All you have to do is look at the Royal families. I have worked with children born from incest rapes. Its not pleasant. Even if their intelligence capacity and physical selves are not genetically compromised they have to deal with severe internal identity turmoil feeling guilty for being born. This is why in many orphanages in Canada they would not tell the orphans they were from incest rapes or relationships. Having seen both the physical and emotional issues associated with incest and the co-relation to sexual crimes of assault, I clearly believe civilized societies can not function with incest and will break down if its allowed. What is scary is that incest porn is VERY common if not the most common form of porno requested if you ask porn producers. How prevalent is it. All you have to do is check the incest porn out on the web. It is too common and because it is, it means the prediction to engage in it even indirectly by watching it, is real.

You are engaging in trivialization. The abundance of evil does not detract from its significance.

Uniquely wicked. That's an interesting way to justify trivializing what is going on in Iran. Its not uniquely wicked. One can only guess why you think wicked has to be unique before it becomes significant enough to criticize.

My posts explain the President is simply a titular figure and made it clear he can rave and rant all he wants, business transactions will come down to the business executives most negatively impacted by any trade deal. So I have in fact not Trumped Trump's importance. To me he is just a gas bag. As for whether Trump owes Canada anything this is no about Trump it is about what makes the most business sense for all sides when transacting across borders. From what I gather if we are to talk about what Trump personally owes, its a lot and he lied about his personal wealth so he could borrow money on falsely presented collateral. He's a fraud. His empire is nothing but debts but hey thanks for bringing that up. Also I wish nothing to do with Bill and Hilary. As you are well aware they both spread herpes equally.

Bush C, Trump did not expose Canadian dependency on US markets, its there for all to see. That is like saying Trump exposed the world has oceans or he has small hands. Can you get real for just once with the rhetoric. Next Trump can blow hot air all he wants posing as a tough negotiator but the fact is he has no say in actual day to day business. The actual business executives involved who will be most negatively impacted will be the ones who decide and they have already unanimously distanced themselves from Trump. His drama with his signing executive orders is a joke. They had and have zero legal meaning. Ironically Trump is empowering China, Canada, terrorist nations like Iran all his enemies and his best allies. He's become a poster boy for someone who attacks everyone and this puts everyone he attacks in an allied position to the extent of thinking he's an idiot. He's making Trudeau look great and he will get him re-elected for standing up to Trump. Thanks Donald.. That said, Iran which is a genuine terrorist threat can use Trump as a cover to pose now as a victim. So can every other dictator like Putin, Kim, and the leaders in China. Atta boy Donald, keep foaming at the mouth, sending your idiot twitters and insulting people. Its worked out very well for you. You have a nation that loves you, is united, and is a role model for other democratic nations. If anyone wants to see just how low the US Presidential office has been dragged down, go back. First listen to interviews with Trump in the 70's and 80's where he clearly did not have Alzheimers to see the difference in his speech pattern, tone of voice, eyes, posture. The first thing you will notice is no slurring, use of one repetitive hand gesture, shaking, slurring or disjointed sentences. Next listen to the speech of any other President including George Bush Sr. who had asphasia and dyslexia and George Bush Jr. or even Gerald Ford or even T eddy Roosevelt. There have been leaders with serious speech problems but none has lowered themselves to the incoherency of Trump. Not one US President has ever engaged in the kind of abusive, childish, fragmented, disjointed rambles he has. Its a said day to see him continue to drag the most important position of the world down to the dirt and excrement Trump has. Its a reflection on something internal in the US that has to be challenged as well as in Canada and the world. WE have all allowed ourselves to stop thinking and let the cell phone and extremists push us around. My example of idea politicians, are low key, middle of the road people who show politeness, diplomacy, and an ability to see the middle of each position and maintain a dignified speaking style. William Davis, Joe Clark, Paul Martin, David Crombie, John Tory, those are some I didn't always agree with but showed the dignity of politics if you want to be a true servant of the public. In the US I think of Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, as three examples of maintaining a polite sense of dealing with people. I would also add Gerald Ford when he was not falling down. To end up with such an ignorant, shallow, stupid man like Trump is a tragedy. The Republicans need to bite the bullet and face facts. Their party was derailed by Trump due to their infighting. They have to take it back and restore its respectability and it won't come from the lizard Ted Cruz or the bumbling Mr. I am running away Ryan. But hey Bush C you are in good company, Taxme loves Trump. That's an endorsement. Lol, you might want to tell Taxme to remember Trump's daughter is now a dare I say it Jewess.. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEk. Regards, Hilary Clinton's Lover According to Taxme

Citizen I appreciate all your words. I think though the changes have to be carried out by Iranians. This is because if the people of Iran don't make the change its not a genuine change by the people of its nation it's an external invasion that ignores the legal principle of sovereignty. I do appreciate your pain.

Good God I totally agree with K.

It is clearly we Canadians who must take responsibility for our US dependency. You are absolutely right. I do think however your President is mentally ill and dettached from reality and the realities of a global market place. He is a delusional sociopath who thinks he can bully and control everyone and dismiss and insult anyone who does not feed his ego. He is self destructing and he's doing serious harm to the US. To see the US President laughed off at the UN was as sad as it gets. If you care about your nation at least have the integrity to point out his lies, falsehoods and question and challenge his abusive language, abusive public behaviour of his wife, his nonsensical ramblings, his inability to grasp the most basic of human behaviour skills. If you find his behaviour siding with Putin over his own country's intelligence services and FBI iacceptable say so. He's compromised by the Russian mob. He now has turned today from using Canada as his scapegoat to China saying China is why everyone should not vote for democrats accusing China of meddling in the mid term elections. He is a true sociopath. He turns the very behaviour he is guilty of on others to try take attention away from himself. China is a tough and often ruthless trader yes. We all know that. What makes China any different than what Trump stands for? You have a leader who talks, sounds and engages in references no different than Mussolini and Hitler. How far he intends to go we shall see. I think the Congress and the entire US civil service and Armed Forces and enforcement agencies know Trump is a security risk and now have no choice but to contain him. I think his last straw was attacking his own Attorney General and making a fool of himself at the UN with a childish nonsensical non policy speech that sounded just like the one Mummar Ghadafi gave.

How is it crap look at the other maps? Do you want to live in la la land with Donald and pretend those states on the map are not dependent on Canada to sell their products not to mention generate jobs? GOOD. Write that tradevand jobs off. You want to pretend there is a 17 billion dollar deficit because the US says so? Do that to. Save the b.s. for someone else. Canada sells 99% of our oil, to the US forcing us to import it. I Invite anyone to do their one research and see just how much we buy and sell with the US. There is no abuse by us the t is an out and out lie. Go on Bush do business with you Presidents buddies in Russia and North Korea. But bye. I think Canada has needed to offset it's dependency on the US for years. This will hopefully encourage us to do so. I believe the current US President has zero clue about trade with Canada and farts out loud trying to sound tough when he has no clue just how dependent those US states you laugh off are. Laugh off their governors who stated what I did, laugh of the US Chamber of Commerce and all your business executives. Laugh laugh laugh.

To see how many US jobs depend on trade with Ccanada take a look at: www.canadianbusiness.com/economy/this-is-exactly-how-many-american-jobs-depend-on-depend-on-canada-us-trade/