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To deny a relation between wages and market conditions, is bizarre. https://research.stlouisfed.org/publications/economic-synopses/2015/06/19/the-relationship-between-labor-market-conditions-and-wage-growth/ https://courses.lumenlearning.com/boundless-economics/chapter/labor-market-equilibrium-and-wage-determinants/ https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/2014/december/are-wages-and-the-unemployment-rate-correlated http://www.boj.or.jp/en/mopo/outlook/box/data/1707BOX1a.pdf https://www.cliffsnotes.com/study-guides/economics/labor-market/labor-demand-and-supply-in-a-perfectly-competitive-market

By the way of course I agree with those who say there is a serious issue with blacks in our criminal legal system which causes far more of them to be arrested, charged, sentenced. I just find throwing the term "racist" at it closes down the inquiry and needed analysis to determine what is causing it. I hate isms and ists. They shut down dialogue and allow convenient labels to prevent analysis. I did read the report. Its not as bad as some by the way. I have my own issues with the SIU who have an inherent bias caused by a syndrome generated by getting an illusion of understanding from being able to second guess after the fact. Their perspective is not the same as a police officer's in the real instant moment. Its a huge difference in perception that causes different perspectives. SIU are not in my opinion properly trained to understand that inherent phenomenological difference of observing after the fact and how that distorts what they analyze. Hindsight is a huge distortion causing an illusion of knowing better. Police have issues of course with blacks and everyone. How could they not? It comes with the job. Any enforcement occupation will inevitably abuse, misuse, underuse, unfairly use power. Bias, corruption, are inherent human factors....just don't stop with labels like racist. That won't provide solutions, just rationalization to engage in the same bad behaviours in reverse. Too many people are looking to excuse their own bad behavior by justifying it as a reaction to someone else's bad behavior. That won't make things better, just worse. Provide constructive suggestions that bring both sides together, not labels to entrench their differences.

We of course have a mellowing of reactions to perceptions with age. . what the phack do I know, for what it is worth I would describe you as a moderate or centre kind of person if I must label you which I would not. I find your pros balanced. That said I just don't see our federal government as the solution to what ails aboriginals. Then again I am not aboriginal and ultimately I believe only they can alleviate what ails them.

Of course not. Its inflammatory. Its pat. It actually provides an incomplete, pat, trivialization and over simplification, black and white for simpleton explanation. You want a proper analysis, that would require critical thinking, quantitative analysis, a thorough review of socio-economic variables, specific behaviour, specific behaviour patterns prevalent in specific communities, references to the cause and effects of drugs, unemployment, specific cultural values or behaviours, things that would be considered politically incorrect. There is no doubt more black men get stopped and arrested on the streets in Toronto. To stop right there and simply say its only because they are black is bullshit. It actually apologizes for and rationalizes criminal behaviour using skin colour as a shield to justify it. It doesn't go the next steps and ask why, why the patterns within certain communities and not others. When it has, and people have asked, why do certain communities have more failures than others in certain areas that would make their communities less susceptible to social and economic failures its labelled racist. Its frustrating for blacks as much as it is whites when you see serious complex issues in their communities simplified as "racism" by police. It is as insulting to them as it is anyone else and its a device politically correct liberals (small L) use to avoid dealing with the deeper issues of cause and effect that won't relieve their knee jerk guilt feelings. Its easier for liberal guilt types to blame the police than themselves but if they want to claim its racism, then necessarily the police are only one part of that racism and these small L liberals have to take responsibility for being the racists that created the racist system including the racist police, racist teachers, racist doctors, racist this racist that.

Carbon tax as it is now defined makes no cents or sense. Its just another tax by a desperate bankrupt government trying to deal with its addiction that is out of control. Its just a couched scheme to get heroin for a heroin addict by making it sound like heroin for a heroin addict is for their health. A true scheme would provide incentives and subsidies to clean alternative energy sources and consumer users of such sources. This government has no concept as to what a tax threshold is. None. It thinks taxes can be charged on an unlimited basis. Also the device of claiming you are giving the tax back to people is a lie....it is a bold faced manipulative lie and everyone knows it. It didn't work with Wynne it won't work with Trudeau. In fact he is destroying proper efforts to reduce carbon emissions with this idiotic idea if he taxes people it stops them from being dirty. What horse crap. It is actually the same horseshit reasoning we use for tobacco tax rates. This government knows addicts will pay a tax due to their addiction even when it gets too high. Its the same with gasoline. Its called taxing an addiction knowing the addiction is not being treated but in fact causing the behaviour that will generate the tax. Hey why not. We legalized gambling and couch it as being charitable, now this latest con. McKenna better stay away from me. I hate millionaire commie silver spoons. Have her walk the streets of Paris praising carbon tax. Please.

How does that contradict what I said? Bangladesh, Vietnam, China, Mexico, can say the same thing. Did Ford create their wages? You think wages are not determined by world market conditions? You think they operate in a vacuum? How do you think currencies that define wages are determined. Oh go on guess.

...a percentage of the profit and genuine environmental safeguards.

Natural capital, drawdown, exploitation, lol. Sounds like you have been watching Mary Poppins. Not that you wpuld understand but the economic term capital has nothing to do with being natural. Economics is inherently synthetic. Zippity zappity zoo that flew over you. Save the sophistry for someone else. Arm chair rich boy commies. So annoying.

No he wasn't. He was an elitist. He never worked a day I his life. Unless you know what it is like to worry about how you make ends meet, economics is an abstraction that Won't be understood. Sometimes you really do have to get hemmeroids to understand how painful it can be sitting on your pampered ass.

Tee hee yeah you are tee hee hee giggle.

In theory yes. In practical reality it may not work as intended. I also cringe at another government control system.

In theory maybe, in practice, I just don't know.

I do understand you and respect your comments. That said the abuse of oxycontin in Ontario and elsewhere is real and is vey much part of what SM is talking about. There is a fine line between pain control and enabling a drug addiction. I think many people have genuine pain but it then can evolve into drug addiction. I am not here to call you out. I am here to say we need to look at the over use of narcotics and no not with cancer patients. You have genuine concerns but the medical community has serious legal and addiction issues with narcotics use they have to address.

Strongly agree.

Lol the fact I call Ford a fatso is indication my prostate is irritating me. Where you get the idea I support Trudeau or Wynne is hilarious. Then again I doubt you have a clue what a commie is let alone a Liberal or conservative. Let's face it, to you I control the world's banks and the media and Hollywood and am filthy rich but a commie too. Love it. Run along and bark at a Chocolate chip.

Hey I have you in the May parade on a poster with Karl, Friedrich, Joe, Nikita and Justin. Grow a mustache and chin hairs. Natural ecosystems without humans of course function just fine without us homo sapiens yes. Economics is about human financial transactions. Listen Che, get with the program. Come see me and I can show you how I control the banks. Its like making gefilte fish. You take the scraps no one wants and roll them up and give them a new name.

Good one.

Appreciated.. In fact I commend your civility in all seriousness on these boards.

Many valid points but shitting on Muslims who live in Toronto simply because they are Muslim? There are plenty of Muslims that would agree with what many of you say and tell you they are not interested in ruling the city of getting special treatment. I am not comfortable generalizing all Muslims in one category. Their community is diverse in approach, attitude, religious and other beliefs. They don't all wish to be separate or impose themselves on anyone. That's an overstatement. There are aholes of every community in Toronto. Even if there are black gangs shooting up the city in chaos as Taxme paints it what about the vast majority of blacks trying to make a living, pay their taxes and live no different than any of us. Do we write them all off? I am not some bleeding heart apologist however a city is made up of many people and being respectful of all of them is the duty of the governments. Its one thing to say treat everyone the same. Its another to argue entire groups of people should be written off. I know Scribblet or PIK well enough to know they do not call on writing off whole groups of people and get what I say and there comments are I suppose politically incorrect for some but I know they have no problems with any one who follows the same rules. Can't say the same for Taxme who has made it clear he considers entire groups of people he does not consider "white-English" acceptable. He always gets himself into such discussions getting a pass and mantelpiece to hang his agenda. Aint buyin it just like I didn't buy what Ernst Zundel tried to promulgate on people. Whether people like it or not Toronto has over 90 ethnic communities and over 130 languages spoken and Spanish is now the no.2 language. If it is a problem for many, they move to smaller communities. Problem is you better move North. The corridor from Montreal to Windsor is filling up with all kinds of visible minorities. There is a seismic shift of population from China, India and Africa underway and many are headed to Toronto. As that continues frictions will rise. Don't ask me to encourage hatred or resentment of entire peoples. I engage in criticism of specific opinions and attitudes and not assume all people of the same group have them. I have no problems with my Muslim next door neighbor. He can be dumb as hell but I have zero problems with him. Why would I? My neighbourhood is all "coloured". I have "coloured" children visit my home every day to bully me and play with my dogs. Its life. When there is an ahole its because they are an ahole not because they have caramel tone in their skin. Then again I have issues with Toronto Maple Leaf fans. I mean I am happy for them after their years of suffering but some of them are a tad unrealistic about their defense. Ok so Mathews is a hockey God true, but they should not run wild naked in my neighbourhood when he scores. Savages. Babcockian zealots. Shannonites. Dubakians. Bah.

Very true. Hey isn't Friedman one of my people? I thought we were supposed to be good with money.

Mr. Harder being polite to me won't help. I am still gonna tease you on everything. Thanks for your politeness. I remain curmudgeon. Actually all kidding aside its a hell of an issue. Its a quagmire. They did say Chretien was well liked when he handled the Ministry. In fairness to Trudeau any PM inheriting this portfolio has an issue that no matter what you do blows up in your face. I think the smart thing is to not raise too many expectations. Low key is the way to go.

The high rate of incarceration of aboriginals reflect minor crimes. Argus your thesis fails to consider that the vast majority of their arrests are for alcohol related disturbances and in fact they are arrested often to sleep it off and not freeze to death. Your stats don't reflect where their crimes take place and their severity. If they did they would t show the vast majority of serious crimes are not done by aboriginals and do not result in arrests and that the crimes are are arrested for do not cause the wide spread damage to society as the crimes committed by organized crime and violent criminals. Their crimes impact negatively on their local communities and so their approaches to alcoholism which deal with it as a community crime make sense. The problem is the federal government is now trying to use that approach on non aboriginal child murderers something it was never intended for. The high rate of incarceration iof aboriginals s directly related to alcohol and drug abuse which is multi-generational and a collective social illness that harms aboriginal communities far more than our non aboriginal ones. If it concerns you, you might want to ask this current phony government to scrap the "Indian" Ministry. It's a total failure. It assumes there are "Indians" and that the solution to their problems is to throw payments at specific tribal leaders not demanding accounting for how the money is spent. The Nations of nations which is the aboriginal world has literally hundreds of tribal (nation) leaders some elected and accountable and doing a good job and others appointed and stealing the money. It's inconsistent and a recipe for chaos and conflicting standards to say the least. Next, since many aboriginals live in isolated communities, they will continue to suffer from mental illness associated with lack of social facilities and their disconnection from their own cultural values connected to living in rural areas in harmony with the surroundings. We should not patronize aboriginals.They have choices. One is to embrace their own cultural values and not reject them, so they can learn to reconnect to the environment they have become dettached from and the other is to assist them build self sustaining models of lifestyle, specifically, hydro-electricity and water delivery systems, solar and wind technology, recycling of organic waste and garbage and a system with Skype to connect communities to each other and medical and government services using models first used by Australia with its aboriginals where it used radio to connect isolated communities with medical support. It is a situation that will require aboriginals, stepping up and taking leadership roles. If our federal government wants to help it should be funding recreational facilities, water, hydro and education projects and it should control how the money is spent and not ignore when its not used for what it was intended which is what often happens now. Two solutions which work are to engage aboriginals in tourism and art related industries. The second is recruiting them into the military and in particular we could set up a much larger Northern Rangers militiato patrol our Northern waters with aboriginals who know those waters better than any Russian or American submarine. The problem is most Canadians who are not aboriginal do not want to live up North and there are not enough aboriginals in many isolated communities to sustain sufficient self sustaining logistical support such as stores, roads, hospitals, schools, even housing. Its a challenge. I think though simply looking at the fact that aboriginals consist of 80% of people in jail, which is true, in itself is not going to properly address the issue. By the way, the stats clearly indicate the person most likely to be arrested and accept a plea bargain for time served are black males not aboriginals. All that said, the failures of our governments to deal with the aboriginal issues is bi-partisan. No government federally has been able to deal directly with the problem because all fear doing unpopular things that will be required to bring in change. The current Prime Minister who sheds tears and brags what an aboriginal leader he is had a snit attack when in a meeting with him the leaders wanted to talk. He had a tantrum and said he thought they would only give brief fluff speeches. Caught on tape, he high tailed it out of the conference. Ass. Harper actually was a tough guy. He basically told the leader of the aboriginal nations he was sick of the corruption and get back to him if they could agree on anything. It was not appreciated at one level but it was on another as he's the only one to have had the balls to say phack off to useless meetings and conferences. There are some talented leaders in the aboriginal communities. The problem is they have a system of some leaders of nations being elected and others appointed either by threatening the community or claiming family inheritance or bribery. So its a tough situation of inconsistent rulers all brought together in a lose network headed by a council and a council head who does not have that much real power-he has certainly power to represent and use his authority with the feds, but the problem is he has little internal support. There is a lot of back stabbing between nations. Its not unified by any means. So in one sense its a recipe of anarchy. All I know is there is mass collective suicide going on with aboriginals under the age of 18. Very wide spread and its not in the media as it would make Trudeau look less than Saintly. Trudeau appointed two not one Minister and now the two disagree over what to do. Hey typical Trudeau. When you have a problem that you keep screwing up, double the amount of screw up.

No its not an all or nothing concept. Population growth can actually prevent or aid economic growth. You Marxists need to learn economics and stop trying to define the world as black and white. Vladimir. Joe, Nikita y'all suck at economics. No wonder you write what you do. You and Justin and your 5 year plans to help the masses. Excuse me if I vomit up a hammer and piss out a sickle.

Nonsense.The world is addicted to America. Its a love hate dependency. They resent America but they love everything American. Hip hop, Big Macs, Coke, on and on Yankee imperialist colonialist materialism has swept the world via cell phone and internet and the most radical of terrorists drinks coke and has a Big Mac before they go out to kill innocent people. People resent the US. They resent it because it has all the things people of the world think they want and can't have. The US is I suppose in one sense the great Satan tempting the masses with its world of materialism and instant gratification through self indulgence. In another sense, the very people that criticize it would never stop drinking Coke or Pepsi. I think to say the US is hated world wide is a generalization. People hate period. We hate everything depending on who you ask and why. Please don't tell me China or Russia or Britain are more popular. Hell the most hated country in the world is probably Israel when it should be Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, and many others. There is no accounting for peoples' tastes but here is the true test. How is it, if the US is so hated, it is always and has always been the no.1 destination for immigrants and still is by far? Warts and all, I would live in the US before all countries in the world other than Canada or Tonga of course.

True but how much control does Fatso have on that. The lack of increase in wages which is under the rate of inflation and is a serious concern for the Bank of Canada is a phenomena very much outside his control. Interestingly the banking industry is worried because they want to start raising interest rates but with people's wages well under recession increases and not keeping up if they raise interest rates, they could trigger a domino effect of mortgage collapses and bankruptcies of small businesses. So it is an interesting mess and if you think the current federal government has a clue about the fiscal mess it has created forget about it. Two things for sure. The unemployment rate that was just announced is not accurate. It does not reflect a permanent unemployed class of once working Canadians who exhausted their unemployment insurance and so no longer show up on the unemployment stats. It also does not reflect underemployed individuals even with part-time worker stats. In fact the current government and no further government should be allowed to report the unemployment rates the way they do. It does not reflect the many people on welfare. homeless and unemployed. and people living off of family members or who have taken student loans to avoid being broke. That said Ford is not the one who created Ontario's chronic dependence on the automobile sector and that chronic dependence is going to in the next 10 to 30 years hurt as it shrinks and transforms into a much smaller decentralized specialized industry run by computer giants not the current car manufacturers. Ontario is shifting like the world to economic activity which requires longer education, specialized technology that has to be constantly updated and many more people put out of work by technology. We see it now. We see the number of manual labour jobs shrinking and no one survives today on minimum wage fast food jobs alone. The current average Canadian salary is $30 an hour. That is tough in Toronto, Van and Mtl or other big cities. I am not sure trying to blame fatso is realistic. He inherits a world economy, federal policies which inherently clash with provincial ones, and issues he did not create and probably can not stop. I am not even a Ford supporter...but fair is fair. I supported Ms. Mulroney. What do I know. We have no choice but to face cut backs in the provincial civil service, cut backs to education (now being replaced by a huge influx of foreign students paying cash, i.e., 30 thou per year at community colleges and only too happy to), probably unpopular cut backs in social services. He's not going to be popular at all when the economic mess Wynne left behind has to be addressed but its the price we pay for her spending like a Trudeauite. Whoever comes after Trudeau inherits the same huge deficits and damage that has caused. The idea a politician comes in on a horse and presto is a messiah and saves your job is bull shit. Its not possible. Vladimir Lenin is not coming to save us. That said, Doug is fat and its a source for many future comments by me. He barely fits in his suits. He looks like he is about to explode. He kind of looks like a huge bull frog who just came out of a tanning salon. I love the Mel Lastman tan, the WWE blonde Rick Flair hair cut, the Cheshire grin. He definitely eats children and live goats. We went from a bony skeleton who looked like Jane Hathaway from the Beverly Hillbillies to the Cheshire Cat from Alice in Wonderland. The visuals are stunning. It"s hilarious when he stands next to Trudeau. He tries to stand sideways to not look as fat and short. Look with Justin, Justin wears his pants up to his arm pits and has girl hips. Now I have nothing on girl hips but if you look carefully Trudeau has the same hips as Kim Kardasian. This is not good. Also I would love to see fearless leader Kim of North Korea, Don Trump and Dougie Ford get together for a fried chicken show down. One other thing. That poor Premier of Alberta looks like she has been on a crack cocaine binge for days without sleep. I feel for her fiscal mess. As for the guy in Saskatchewan, his last name . Moe is appropriate. Doug can be Larry and that guy from Quebec can be Curly. Yuck yuck.