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🙄I can't say it any clearer or slower. Choosing the "no toss ups" view as a projected outcome is very stupid. Those states are toss ups for a reason.

I'm not getting angry at you. I'm trying (apparently unsuccessfully) to educate you. If you want to filter the facts to CREATE a view that you think is favorable to the outcomes you want, that's your prerogative. But what you've created is very improbable. Don't whine about "cheating" when it doesn't come to pass.

FTFY

Come on, man. That's not fair to the goats.

For example. Look at a realistic polling map. The view at 270toWin is a good example. https://www.270towin.com/ The "locks" and the likely wins for each party add up to be neck-and neck, with 93 toss-up votes up for grabs. Based on polling, it's a coin toss at this point. No, YOU are the one who selected the "no toss ups" view. As if there aren't toss up states. Dumb.

Honestly, you people are gaslighting the shit out of yourselves, convincing yourselves that Trump is ahead, favored to win and Harris is collapsing and losing badly. Sure. that COULD happen. Or it's equally likely that Harris will win, because the polls still show a virtual tie. And if that equally likely outcome comes to pass and Harris wins, you fools will lose your shit crying foul because Trump was supposed to win by a landslide so there must be shenanigans (for which there will be no evidence). Just stop. You're looking at a map on the loosest polling aggregator, and you've selected an option to view an electoral map with "no-toss ups." As in, every state in their polling aggregate that shows ANY numerical advantage for a candidate, no matter how tiny, will be "projected" to that candidate. That's an incredibly stupid way to project an electoral outcome is determined by battleground states that are statistical ties. You are literally fooling yourselves. Be smarter.

That's called the "Platinum Package."

A D-list hate comic at a Trump rally? That all checks out. The thing is, this isn't just a random comic doing material online. It's not somebody who just showed up to open mic night at MSG. This is someone the campaign went out of their way to recruit and vet for this special event. To literally represent the campaign. And he does.

I'm sure they just go for the stories.

When was Trump respected? He was a national punchline as the guy who bankrupted casinos. He was a clownish caricature on reality TV. Get real.

The easy diplomacy of appeasement is the new Art of the Deal!

Oh, I don't think Trump has any interest in genocide, because that's not personally profitable and Trump's only ideology is "What's good for Trump?" (If it were profitable, though, he'd be all over it. He has zero moral or ethical code to cause more than a second's hesitation.) But if Hitler had copyrighted his political strategy and rhetoric, the Hitler estate would have a pretty good case against Trump. From the moment he rode down that stupid escalator and launched his political career by scapegoating immigrants, we've seen all those moves before. The phony populism. The rhetoric that trades policy ideas for hate and spite. The primacy of personal loyalty. The attacking and undermining of the press--and of any institution. The endless lies, large and small. His January 6 beer hall putsch. And on and on. Until you get to the open admiration of Hitler.

Those people are the last you'd have to tell. They've heard his rhetoric before. They've seen his maneuvers before. And they've seen their fellow citizens let it happen before.

Dude, you've really got to figure out how to stop falling for every stupid thing you see on Twitter. You're going to end up sending aill your money to a "Nigerian Prince."

Dude, just because your I want Trump to do that shit to you doesn't mean other people don't have standards. Found liable, in court. Deal with it.

When it was over, Trump described the flavor as an interesting cross between iced tea and lemonade.

Forbes: Trump has not disavowed a plan called the America First Agenda You: Forbes is lying! Trump denounced project 2025! Everyone literate: Sorry, dummy, they're explicitly taking about a DIFFERENT plan. You: Here's a video of Trump denouncing project 2025! Everyone literate:

That's an excellent op-ed. You should read it. No, the thread title is not the reasonable conclusion.

Exactly. If a Republican (allegedly) kills someone in Manhattan, they should get to move their trial to somewhere where a juror is more likely to take their side because of their politics rather than the facts of the case. It's only fair.

Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired. Maybe change your thread title?

Everyone who cozies the Russians is being "spied on." Because we monitor Russian comms.

The only reason that he failed to throw us into an unprecedented (and highly combustible) constitutional crisis is that Mike Pence found his backbone and upheld his oath. Everyone else went along. They tried to hand him the fake electors on the floor of the Senate.-- This was not an idle threat. It was a very near miss. And don't mistake the situation now. The OP covered it, so I don't need to rehash, but because of our near miss they clarified that law regarding the VPs responsibility and eliminate the specious Eastman argument. But that also binds Harris. If those alternate electors come to her backed by state officials (some of whom are friendly to the effort) it creates a gray area where we could very easily end up in contingent election. Ask yourself this, if that threat is a "straw" then why did the MAGA acolytes spend 4 years and millions of dollars to put their people in key positions? It clearly matters to them, so it should be of concern to everyone else. Many otherwise educated voters DO NOT understand how close we came to losing the republic 4 years ago. You are educated, and you don't take that incident seriously.🤷‍♂️

Eh, I think if someone just tried to stab my, I wouldn't hand them a knife and just hope they don't try again. Rather, one should have every expectation that they will try again. Maybe the difference though is the desired outcomes. I agree that his voter base--definitively--does not have any respect for democracy. If they did, they wouldn't be backing a guy who tried to overthrow it. I lean on this argument to motivate those who are invested in the preservation of democracy. Who see it as important and vital, so they can be aware of what he's done and motivated to turn out and prevent it from happening again.

There's been one shooting incident. And to paraphrase the other poster (and all common sense), if one does not wish to be labeled a threat to democracy, one should have thought of that before literally trying to overthrow democracy. Calling Trump a threat to democracy is no different than calling the sky blue: it's simply fact.

You've been drinking from the fever swamp again. 🙄