TreeBeard

I’ll be more specific then. Do you believe the current change in climate is caused by man-made increase in CO2 in the atmosphere?

You don’t believe climate change is happening?

Have you seen the clowns running the separatist movement? They are not economists.

This is a separatist pipe-dream. They will need to fund a military, increased healthcare expenditures, and whatever else the feds currently fund. They will lose key pieces of their territory, namely Edmonton and Calgary, who won’t vote to separate. They will lose significant population of those who want to remain Canadian citizens. An independent Alberta wouldn’t be swimming in money.

His win was obvious. Liberals are cheering even louder than Conservatives. His longer term future is still uncertain. 30% chance that there are more floor crossings which would make him a lame duck. He has shown negative aptitude at winning elections.

Calling on a foreign power to assist in breaking up a country is pretty serious stuff, no?

There’s no jurisdiction. And withholding money to build hospitals unless they play nice would be political suicide, not to mention the harm. You would be the first to cry foul if Alberta was punished.

It will certainly be the most populace city in “New Alberta”. Is that your pick for the capital?

And Calgary and Edmonton. They would vote to remain part of Canada.

This will be his more likely demise. More floor crossers would make him a lame duck and probably cause a cabinet revolt. I put the odds at 30% that this happens. Odds of him getting <75% is 1 in 10. He’ll easily surpass that threshold.

I’m talking about something that actually happened and you’re talking about a conspiracy theory. Loosen the tinfoil hat a little; it’s on too tight.

Interprovincial trade barriers are put there by provinces. The Feds have no jurisdiction, unfortunately.

Do you think they meet the layperson’s dictionary definition of treasonous, rather than a legal one? He wasn’t convicted , but I don’t really care what US courts think. It’s Canadian law that I am concerned with. Canada gave the guy $10 million for violating his rights. Child soldiers are not supposed to be treated like adults, but you’d probably be happy if he had been executed.

One has nothing to do with the other, but wasn’t he a child soldier? How can an indoctrinated child be convicted of anything? Regardless, are these Albertan separatists treasonous do you think? Is the foreign interference different?

Alberta isn’t taking everything with them when they go. They will need to pay Canada for the losses incurred from lost resource revenue and they certainly won’t be keeping the same borders. If Alberta can go, so can Edmonton and Calgary. Those places won’t be voting for independence, so why wouldn’t they stay in Canada? Canadian law, obviously.

That would trigger negotiations with Canada. That means Canada doesn’t let places like Calgary or Edmonton go, if they didn’t vote to separate in those areas. Treaty lands are not Alberta’s. An independent Alberta certainly wouldn’t have the borders it currently does; those are Canada’s borders. Have you read the Clarity Act? It does not give away Canada’s land just because of referendum results.

Money for equalization doesn’t come from the Albertan treasury. It is paid for by businesses and individuals through federal taxes. The province of Alberta doesn’t write a cheque. 🤦‍♂️ It is paid FROM the province, not by the province. The part that involves the provinces is the formula to RECEIVE federal funds.

Alberta doesn’t remit any of that. The money never flows to Alberta. It all goes straight to the feds from individuals and businesses. Sure, withhold your income tax out of protest. See how that goes for you. 😂

No. There is still no right to separate, as the quote says that I mentioned by the Supreme Court contained in the Clarity Act. Alberta doesn’t pay the feds. Where do you get this weird notion that Alberta is paying money from the Alberta treasury to the federal government?

They don’t actually have a right to separate unilaterally. A province, or area, or town, or city in Canada has zero power to leave Canada.

It’s Canada’s laws that they must follow. You can’t just wish for other laws. If they’ve committed sedition or treason against Canada, they should be arrested and charged. Do they have a right to separate? No. https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-31.8/page-1.html WHEREAS the Supreme Court of Canada has confirmed that there is no right, under international law or under the Constitution of Canada, for the National Assembly, legislature or government of Quebec to effect the secession of Quebec from Canada unilaterally;

I’m wondering about the legal definition of treason or sedition. Do the Albertans meet that by getting a foreign power involved?

No, it doesn’t even come close to meeting the legal definition. Now what about them separatists?

Which Canadian made EV would you suggest?

This has nothing to do with the question at hand. No one says they can’t try to separate. Are they committing treason by getting a foreign government to help them? did they get help from a foreign power? But as I recall vividly, yes, they were labelled as traitorous, even if it wasn’t in the legal sense.