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Whether they are violent now, at this moment, matters little. When extremist beliefs such as the subjugation of women, gays and infidels are held by the majority, it can only lead to violence. You would have celebrated the Shafia, Parvez, Khadr and Sidhu families as "peaceful" and "non-violent". And they were non-violent - until they weren't. Because they all had extremist beliefs that led all of them to kill their daughters for "honour" and teach their children to terrorize. After being in Canada for years. This is what you refuse to acknowledge - that the ones you tout and laud as "moderates" are really not moderate at all. You seem to understand the danger of extremist beliefs of white supremicists and how easily they lead to violence, but you deny this about Muslims. Anyone - even Muslims - who carry that kind of hatred around - it's like carrying a loaded gun - at some point, you're going to use it. Whether they are violent NOW or not, does not matter. It's what extremist beliefs they hold that count.

Posting so that this annoying avatar stops flashing in my feed.

Integration is defined as the process by which members of immigrant groups and host societies come to resemble one another. What baffles me is: what about the misogyny that is rampant in Islam do Western countries want to adopt? No, this is just one area of difference with Islam where there can be no tolerance of intolerance. This is an area that we (well, some of us, anyways) do not want to see become a prevalent attitude in Canada. I have also had to deal with Muslim men and yes, they do not take kindly to women giving them any direction or telling them No. I was assaulted by one for telling him No. My sister started a project to set up a medical office with a private doctor who shortly thereafter converted to Islam and brought in other Muslim men to work with him. She was quickly silenced and shut out, eventually gave up and left them. None of them had ever set up a medical office before, while she has been doing it her whole professional life. But she's a woman and so....... When people say they would like to see immigrants assimilate more, it's about this - it's about everyday life for Canadians. And you are right - for Western women, the influx of Muslim men is definitely having a damaging effect. Of course, some do not care about Canadian women - their focus is on "saving" Muslims, who cares who it hurts. I agree with Dia in that - you can't "force" them to change their opinion of women - especially when misogyny is a way of life and a religious obligation for them. So, I'm with Argus - don't bring in so many from these cultures. In smaller numbers, they may assimilate and adopt some Western views but in larger numbers with the influence of their Islamic communities and mosques, there is no impetus to change. And we have a government right now that is telling them they do not have to change anything to integrate into Canadian society and telling Canadians to basically just "suck it up" and tolerate the intolerance.

Ooooo, progress! This time, you left out the lie that he thinks ALL Muslims are that way.

Here's why some go back: Stop letting your dislike of Argus make you stupid. The report says what it says - he didn't make it up. You can disagree that immigrants should make efforts to assimilate all you want. But the first thing you did on this thread was blame Argus for their lack of integrating. And you call me stupid......

Argus has never mentioned doing that - screaming at women in the street. This is a discussion forum. He discussed a report that most Canadians would like to see immigrants assimilate more. He mentioned what Sweden does and that he agrees. He is allowed to have an opinion, correct? This is the right place to express that opinion, is it not? What I am defending is his right to post a report and say he agrees with it. He mentioned NOTHING about screaming and abusing women on the street. Only you did. So I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's not the Muslim-killer you insist he is.

Ya, we get it - you hate Argus. I just think there's more to it than your belief that Canadians are the most racist, bigoted people on the planet.. And Stats Can agrees with me.

I couldn't find a cite to back that statement up, there are reasons for that have to do with people like you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_Canadians It was the first cite that came up. While discrimination may be an issue for some, I highly doubt your claim that Somalis are soooooo discriminated against in Canada that they bear no responsibility for the low numbers and it's all Argus' fault. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/11f0019m/11f0019m2019007-eng.htm Stats Can does not identify discrimination from Argus as a significant factor, and I suspect they are correct in that. It could also be that misogynistic views on women also contribute to their reliance on social welfare. I don't believe Argus has any control over that but I'm sure you can find a way to blame him if you try hard.

Or maybe they won't want to come in the first place. The handshaking thing is no small matter. It became an issue for a friend of mine who worked in a warehouse. A Muslim coworker would not look at her, shake her hand (she was his boss) or have anything to do with her. She finally got him moved out of her warehouse citing safety concerns - if she got injured or trapped in the warehouse, he would not save her. Memories of all the girls who burned alive because they weren't allowed to leave the burning building without their hijabs on.

I was wondering how long before someone pointed this out: https://torontosun.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-the-added-insult-to-norman-is-that-khadr-was-treated-better

I recently met a Swiss gentleman while I was on holiday and he talked about this. The Swiss do not put up with any crap, that's for sure. They're very happy their government listens to them and acts on their wishes. He mentioned at Ramadan there's more arrests and deportations - because they break into farms and petting zoos, behead the sheep, leaving the heads behind and taking the carcasses. When they are caught by the law, they are deported immediately. And the citizenry is good with that.

Headstones just released a version of this song. Pretty good.

You should go and apprehend him, since you know exactly where he is. It's a $25 million dollar reward!

And what does raping and enslaving 9 year old Yazidi girls have to do with US foreign policy? When Sunnis are killing Shias all over the world - what does that have to do with US foreign policy? No, there's lots of Muslim terrorism going on that has Zero to do with dislike for Westerners.

Yes, they would. Martyrdom is the ultimate golden ticket for them. Martyrs are their heroes.

How do you know he tells "everyone" about the threat they pose? I see someone posting their own valid observations and opinions, always backed up by relevant cites, on a forum designed to discuss such matters, and on the appropriate topics. Do you know him outside this discussion forum? On what are you basing your accusation that he is telling "everyone" about the Muslim threat? (Newsflash - there are many people in the world - especially Muslims themselves who are calling for reforms in Islam and raising alarms about Islam, saying the same things Dog is saying. You likely don't know this, as you don't care to read anything disparaging to Islam, but he is saying exactly the same things as ones like Tarek Fatah and Hirsi Ali. Do you also feel they are the ones responsible for Islamophobia and inciting hatred against Muslims, or is it just Dog? Why or why not?) Given the fact that (from Rue's links on the other thread) More than 95 percent of all suicide bombing attacks conducted worldwide are carried out by Muslim extremists and the large number of Muslims in the world who agree even partially to terrorism being used to further their religious and political agenda, shouldn't somebody be sounding the alarm? I get that you think Islam bears no responsibility for it's own actions in the process that leads Muslims themselves to terrorism. Don't really care, I'm gonna call it how I see it. You can whitewash and cover up and excuse and blame others and be all butthurt and defensive on behalf of terrorists all you want. I concur with Rue's comment to you on the other thread: If you spent even just a little of your outrage on what Islam itself is producing in its adherents, instead of trying desperately to sanitize everything Islam does, you might come off as a bit more rational. As you admitted yourself - you are known for being a caustic-tongued person. I think it's odd that your caustic tongue is never.....and I mean NEVER......aimed at Islamic extremists. I think it's odd that you reserve all your vitriol for an anonymous person giving their opinion on a forum designed for discussion of such topics but rarely can say more than "Yes, I agree that Islam needs some reforms BUT what about Christianity? What about white people? What about Dog and Goddess -- THEY are the really, truly evil people!" If how people use their words is so important to you, why not curb your own caustic tongue? How do you know that you're not inciting someone on this board to take action against Dog or Argus or I? Maybe someone reads your accusation that Dog is exactly like Bissonette and decides you're right and decides to take him out before he kills somebody because Dialamah believes he is violent Muslim-killer. I agree with you - words are important. But guess what, Dia? YOUR words are important too.

You really just lumped the Dog in with a convicted murderer who killed 6 people and injured 19. Wow.

Errrr.....I mean......How dare you insinuate that there is a problem with my tribe!! Racist!! Romaphobe!!

Damn. My people need to smarten up.

It's like he's trying to re-write history - but AS it's happening instead of years later like people usually do.

Reminded me of this article: http://churchandstate.org.uk/2019/02/you-need-to-consider-the-possibility-your-religion-is-mythology/?fbclid=IwAR3f6FzJrFZShqXQsOd-9yvnRBtBWl4EcjMI4eEIeZWM5xm3bgamOSHvBnM

I've noticed that even with all the bad press, Hauwei is still advertising heavily in Canada. I would never buy one of their phones.

Yeah, I noticed that, too:

Ahhh, but if you don't like the source, then you can just dismiss every incident of terrorism they list and call the whole thing "fake news." Never happened and you're a stupid racist for taking any of it seriously.

Yes, yes. The entire list is "fake news". The whole thing about Muslims attacking churches all over the world is complete fabrication. Got it.