WestCanMan

I see that you've opted to stick with the sandbox insults and ignore the opportunity to try to debate the merits of the leftist MSM propaganda that you spew here. You made the right choice sapper. Run along now little one.

Basket-weaving doesn't count.

Fox isn't afraid to have people present the alternative viewpoints on their shows, unlike the sycophants-only alt-left networks in North America. They never have been for as long as I've been watching. They don't present their facts and opinions in a vacuum or an echo chamber, they like to humiliate leftists while they do it, much like cats toy with mice before they go in for the kill. Some of the leftists are pretty dishonest and annoying, like Tarlov and Williams, but that can't really be helped if you're drawing from the left side of the aisle. Brazille is likeable and usually reasonable though imo.

It was actually just a quick explanation of what's going on and an honest look at how easily you're led around by propagandists, for your own benefit. Not a rant by any reckoning of the word. Grab a dictionary and look up the word 'rant' sapper. It only has 4 letter for gawd's sake. You should be able to at least use those ones correctly. One of the highest compliments one can have is to be accused of being wrong by you, and I thank ya kindly for that. FYI I was disagreeing with you sapper. I'm not on your side here on this issue and I'm not sure what gave you that impression. If you had some facts to blurt out, we all know that you'd do it, just like I did. Instead you're reduced to a series of baseless allegations with a smattering of sandbox insults. That's life on the left though, so I know you're used to it. How about of you list off all the things that I was wrong about and I'll happily rehash the laundry list of times that you were sucked in by left-wing propaganda which was eventually proven to be a bunch of lies? Wanna go Sapper? Care to try to throw down some actual facts kiddo? Or do you just have some more sandbox insults up your sleeve?

When I see things like this it makes me wonder wtf people are talking about when they say that Fox News has shifted left. If CNN, CBC & CTV saw Biden, Trudeau and Xi dancing on a pile of American & Canadian corpses they would do their best to bury the story. Fox still reports on everything that they should be reporting on. The story about Fox News shifting left is reminiscent of the CBC's attacks on Scheer. After an election loss by Scheer/Trump, the alt-left news starts trying to create division on the other side. Eg in Canada, they said "Scheer should never have lost to Trudeau, with all his scandals!" (the scandals that CBC played down, and the ones that they kept on showing polls about which seemed to indicate that Canadians didn't think the scandals were an issue). Now when the GOP lose an election the theory comes out that "Fox News called Arizona too quickly, they're godless commies!" I still consider Fox News to be - by far - the most reliable news network in North America. Possibly the only actual news network.

LMAO! You blurt that out like it's a statement of fact and literally every human on earth who has grade ten math or higher knows that it's a lie. After 4 years of lying and baseless accusations from your cult of 2016's leftist losers this is obviously the most hollow accusation in the history of mankind Sap. FYI BCSapper the Dems stooped to the point of having the FBI do an assault-style pre-dawn raid on Roger Stone's home with 17 fully-automatic assault rifles locked & loaded, then they frog-marched him out while CNN had the cameras rolling on him. That same station won't even politely ask Joe Biden why he lied, numerous times on video, about his knowledge of Burisma & China. It's a 100% fact that Biden lied about that, he even admitted to it. Hunter admitted that he only had the Burisma job and other board positions because of his father's position. Joe shut down the investigation using the weight of his VP position in a blatant quid-pro-quo, which is apparently the worst thing that a politician can do, according to CNN. We all know that some very concerning things happened surrounding both of those scandals, and CNN won't even ask Joe politely about it because "The allegations are so dastardly and unfounded!" Yet they were there for that freak-show of an arrest on a 75 yr old man in his underwear who was just sleeping with his wife lol. You have the least credibility of any human on earth sapper. Your hypocrisy is over the moon.

"I believe everything I see on CNN, and they announced that the election was legit right on election night!!!!!!!!" Look under your seat for a prize! CNN for 4 years: "The 2016 election was a fraud! The complete lack of evidence of 2016 fraud - despite years of FBI investigations (with a reasonable number of necessary crimes by the FBI), pre-dawn assault-style raids, thousands of subpoenas, millions of pages of documents from the accused, the sworn testimony hundreds of people, and the coercion of witnesses for false testimony.... proves nothing." CNN toadies and stooges: "OMG you're so right! We don't need to see any evidence at all to know the truth!" CNN on election night 2020: "This election is hereby certified 100% legitimate. There's no need whatsoever for any investigations. Joe won fair and square, or at least he will, in a few days." CNN toadies and stooges: "OMG you're so right! It's important to destroy whatever evidence may exist of fraud, and to disregard what we already know, because we know in our hearts that no fraud was committed!"

Holy crap. If the info from 2:09 - 2:40 in that video is legit, the election was not.

The voting machines had Biden ahead. The 'software glitch' in the machines had given thousands of Trump votes to Biden. How would you like it if your single, solitary vote for Trudeau wound up counting for the Conservatives? What about those of your whole family, and all of your left-leaning friends? You'd be irate. The main fact to keep in mind is that no one would have even noticed this if the error would have been less noticeable. If the 9,748-5,960 margin for Trump came out of the machines as 9,000-6,600 it may have stood. 748 down for Trump, 640 extra votes for Biden, that's 1,388 extra votes for Biden in a state with only 15,700 votes. That's 12%. That's far more than the margin of victory, but the machines were actually off by far more than that. If you do the math, they had Joe with 7,769 out of 12,278 votes, or 63% of the vote (he ended up with only 38% there, that's 25% less than the pace the machines had him on). Biden didn't even get 7,769 votes out of the final tally of 15,708 votes. He ended up with 1,800 votes less than that after 3,500 more votes came in. If the machines ratio had held up, Biden would have ended up with an extra 3,900 ballots in Antrim county alone. In short, the machines were off by 25% in Antrim, and the difference in the whole state was less than 3%. And voting machines were just one part of the problem. There were several other serious issues with the votes there.

Keep in mind that the leftists have been saying for four years straight that $100K worth of FB ads from Russia won the election for Trump lol. Now you're taking the position that all of these things don't add up to much: - machines counting thousands of ballots incorrectly, - widespread evidence of several types of mail-in ballot fraud (dead people voting, people who live out-of-state voting, mysterious boxes of ballots counted for hours after GOP observers are conned into leaving), - Dem agitators kicking GOP observers out of counting rooms without cause, - Dem agitators physically preventing GOP poll watchers from access to viewpoints, - MSM and big tech corporations blocking factual information from the public so that millions of voters aren't aware of te magnitude of Joe's scandal.... Just remember that disinformation abut Russian collusion was pushed unchecked by the MSM and on social media for over a year after it was already known to be a farce. That went on right through the mid-term elections. Disinformation is a huge part of the alt-left's election strategy. Tens of millions of people in the US and Canada are completely oblivious to just how deceptive the MSM actually is. Unless you like being lied to and manipulated like a chump, they are not your friend.

Who did you think was going to tell us that? The CBC? CTV? Global? If Trudeau sacrificed the lives of 100 Canadian soldiers at an Al Qaeda training event those guys wouldn't say boo.

Agreed. Back in Jan/Feb when people were wondering if this was a bio-warfare attack by China, I commented that it's not a stretch to think that they might do something like this even if it had a high body count in their own country, after you consider that they were putting babies into infirmaries with extremely mortality rates just a few years ago.

Yeah they were earlier on travel restrictions and they gave out N95 masks right away. IMO those were the two main factors, but I also think that C19 is taylor-made to kill Americans. It targets very elderly people with co-morbities, and where is there a more target-rich environment for that than America? Becoming obese is a national pastime down there. They invented deep-fried everything, aside from French fries (is that why Americans hate the French so much? Jealousy?).

Your understanding of every single topic that you mouth off about is infantile. 1) Trudeau actually is a proven groper, that's an uncomfortable fact that you need to come to terms with. He doesn't even deny it, he just tried to justify it with "I didn't know she was important" and "Bitches experience things differently". 2) Trump is a groper too. I never denied that. 3) You're the one who tried to make the claim that the fact that Trump's a certified groper makes him as bad a Clinton, who is an actual rapist. 4) You actually just used the term sexual assault against Trump again, but you refuse to use the word sexual assault against Trudeau. How is that a thing? It's like you're trying to win a stupidity contest or something. Are you aware that Trudeau made himself the defacto head of our judicial system, just to protect the criminal entity known as SNC Lavalin, which has a court-documented history of bribing politicians in Canada for access to government projects? Are you aware of how stupid Trudeau actually is compared to Trump? Just look at C19. "Blocking travel from covid hotspots is racist and I refuse to do it! Don't wear masks!" lol. That right there is the purest example of idiocy there ever was, because it was thought-out and rationalized with plenty of time, there are plenty of historical examples to consider, and it was regarding a topic of the utmost importance. He didn't screw upon the covid topic because he had bigger fish to fry and C19 would complicate things - it was his number 1 priority and he didn't even get a 0.00% on that test, he got a negative 100%. That's stupid on steroids. Nothing that Trump ever did was remotely as stupid as Trudeau. Trudeau refused to fight islamic state, Trump massacred them. Trump cleaned up the ME to an extent that we have never witnessed in our lifetimes. Trudeaus greatest achievement was covering up his multiple scandals and getting billions of dollars into the pockets of his media cronies and family. You see exactly what Trudeau's bought-and-paid-for media tells you to see because you lack the wisdom and intelligence to know when you're being blatantly lied to and manipulated. FYI the We scandal wasn't just a matter of "I shoulda recused myself from the obvious decision to select We". The $90K "Duffygate scandal" wasn't worth of front-page news for 3 years nor was it worthy of being considered "the biggest election issue since the Magna Carta". The riots weren't "mostly peaceful" and they weren't "certified covid-free by science" either lol. The racial division, murders and rioting of 2014-2017 was real, and the brief months of rioting in 2020 were actually just more Obama/Dem/CNN led idiocy, as usual. Rayshard wasn't "killed for falling asleep at a drive-thru". Michael Brown wasn't a "gentle giant". Brionna Taylor wasn't "a model citizen who was shot while she was lying in her bed". The killing of George Floyd wasn't nearly what it was made out to be, that's why the rioting fizzeld as soon as the leaked body-cam footage came out (which alt-left news refused to show, the internet is where almost all leftist dolts saw it), and it was by far the second-worst example of cops kneeling a guy to death but idiotic leftist dolts refuse to learn what happened to Tony Timpa. You keep harping on the point of intelligence beave, and it makes no sense because you're just drawing attention to your weak suit. You're good at following the crowd beave. You'd be great in a lynch mob or in a group of people shouting misguided, profanity-laced platitudes at a school or in front of courthouse. You'd actually be an Antifa rock star like the ones in the photo below (and yes, they do actually exist lol). I can 100% guarantee you that these people would think that you're 'a genius'.

https://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/history-wars-was-trudeau-a-disaster-david-frum-and-lawrence-martin-debate/ That's pretty dodgy, but I'm a conservative so I'm ok with a leader who's tough on terrorism. PET was a disaster from a western POV. He was just as adept at targeting the Alberta economy and protecting/moving jobs east as his son is. One of PET's programs that you never hear about anymore is the the tax scam he put on beef/cattle in order to force meat processing plants to move from Alberta to Ontario. They put put punitive taxes on processed beef shipped eastwards, and put no tax on cattle on the hoof being shipped in that direction. It was nothing short of being a direct attack on Alberta jobs. Under PET's National Energy Policy the number of bankruptcies per day in Alberta was in the thousands. My parents were offered to just take over the mtg payments on a house in St Albert and they would own it outright but they had just bought their own home and couldn't afford it. We know another couple who bought 4 lowboy trailers for a few hundred dollars at an auction. They rented those out for decades afterwards. It was like getting a license to print money. Talk about assassinating PET was quite common back then. I don't know if Jr gets the same treatment. I live in BC and there's no such talk out here.

Cute beave. You called Trump disgusting and unqualified, yet Trudeau is the epitome of unqualified and disgusting. He's a snowboard instructor and a part-time teacher for a bit, now he's a corrupt failure of a politician with a proven history of being a groper and then trying to justify it because he didn't know the woman had a decent job, or passes it off as "women experience things differently" lol. He's just a hypocrite with the ability to fool leftist dolts into thinking that he's a paragon of virtue. Care to tell us again how great he is beave...? Get out more. Meet some new people. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting at least 3 people who are smarter than the smartest liberal voter in Canada. Newsflash. You have the internet genius and we all know it. You have access to literally every stupid thing that they say on CNN and MSNBC. Are we supposed to believe that you're just miraculously regurgitating every bit of their idiocy as if you saw it all, just because you and Rachel Maddow are so simpatico? I'll give you one thing beave - you're always good for a laugh.

Good find. It's always totally worthwhile listening to actual experts and students of history. Just in case you're wondering what leftists think about covid, here's one of CNN's experts: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/20/europe/greta-thunberg-coronavirus-climate-change-trnd/index.html For some weird reason he's actually spending most of that money on Canadians if you can believe it. Usually when he's giving our taxpayer money away it's going to his friends at Loblaws or We (where it finds it's way into the pockets of his mom/wife/brother), foreign countries, or to the CBC and 'select' media corporations. Aside from that all he does is denigrate Canadians, fear-mongering against police, virtue-signal, run our judicial system singlehandedly and destroy entire sectors of the economy. Yeah, doomed is the right word.

This is another example of where the dreadfully low credibility of our MSM comes back to bite us all in the ass. They're literally the boy who cried wolf, and now we have no clue whether there's a wolf at our door or a butterfly when they shriek. They may be in some places, but in Langley BC they didn't, at all. I know people who work in that hospital. C19 crickets.... My mom got either the flu or C19 this year. Most likely C19 because the stats tell us that 2.3 Bajillion Canadians got C19 and only 3 people got the flu (slight exaggeration) in 2020. My mom's almost 80 and she didn't say it was a terrible flu. The recovery period after the main symptoms were gone lasted longer than usual. IE, a general lack of energy lasted about a week. She didn't see a Dr, my niece and sister just brought her a bunch of soup, etc. In all fairness, the women on her side of the family all last into their mid-90's, so she is a very healthy near-80. I believe that our current government will never get anything right. Prove me wrong.

There are so many interesting paradoxes at play here, I gotta admit that it's entertaining. 1- the leftist dolts who vilified HCQ because they heard the word come out of Trump's mouth are protecting Trump's vaccine like it's Jesus reborn. 2- The people who hate the American Vaccine are comfortable with the idea of being infected by a virus that they think may have been invented in a Chinese bio-warfare lab lol.

I'm sick of all their disinformation about police shootings, like: "Brionna Taylor was just a model citizen peacefully sleeping in her own bed when police smashed in the door without knocking and proceeded to shoot up her apartment like it was the OK Corral" and "Michael Brown was a gentle giant who was killed in a police drive-by shooting" and "Rayshard was killed for sleeping in his car at a Drive-Thru (CTV)". Leftist dolts are completely susceptible to stories like that, and once they hear them there's no amount of facts and contrary evidence that can ever make them change their minds.

LMAO. Is there going to be a Chinese-American Anthem too now? And how is it possible for there to be a black anthem when there's not even a native anthem yet?

"We were stars in the WH when Obama was POTUS! We want a Cabinet position! We'll call it the Office of Ending Black Genocide!!!!! We will fund abortions in inner cities, legalize black on black murder, and make it illegal for the police to shoot in self-defence!"

It's pretty hilarious that you think you're in a position to talk about other people's intelligence Beave, after all this time. You're just a CNN junkie without an original thought, and that's fine. Half the people on the planet have an IQ of 100 or less. It's no crime to just blend in down there. Your biggest problem is actually your willful ignorance. You know full well that Trudeau did literally nothing at all, PLUS he gave the worst advice possible. "Do not wear masks". I get that the people at the WHO said that, and that's why I think that they're borderline criminals. Why did I know better than the WHO, on both counts of mask-wearing and travel? How is that possible? Am I smarter than all of them combined, or are they not to be trusted? FYI the study of pandemics didn't just begin in 2020 eyeball. Virology, epidemiology, etc are more than eleven months old. Countries that have pandemic response plans all know to "encourage the wearing of masks and to limit international travel, especially from places with outbreaks". Moms without college degrees know this. They don't want to send their kids to school in places where there's an outbreak of a potentially harmful disease. People of average intelligence choose to not go to places like leper colonies because they're [by definition]not stupid. Trudeau is stupid. Dr Tam is stupid. Tedros is stupid. The people who listen to them and their lame excuses are at least as stupid, maybe more. There's only 1 reason why you don't know that they're stupid. Care to guess what it is? I didn't bother to read the rest of your post eyeball. Basically because you just keep on saying the same things that aren't worth responding to. I'll say these things for the last time, everyone else knows them to be true. You're literally Trudeau's last holdout: It was really smart when Trump blocked travel from covid hotspots. It was really stupid that Trudeau's team followed the WHO's idiotic advice and left travel open to here, full-scale. In case you forgot, the WHO were saying that people had to go to wet markets to get C19 and there was no H2H transmission long after that was known to be impossible. It was really smart that Trump's people were screening for C19 at the airports. It was really stupid that Trudeaus people weren't. They weren't doing anything at that time, just talking (saying all the wrong things actually). It was neutral that Trump didn't choose to endorse or discourage masking. It was really stupid that Trudeau and his team discouraged mask-wearing. It was really smart that Trump took a very proactive response to attack C19 from the outset. It was really stupid that Trudeau didn't take his first positive action until March 16th, 45 days later. Biden was with the stupid ones who called the travel ban xenophobic, and then when he found out that the move saved lives, he tried to retroactively change his earlier opinion. The MSM which you refuse to disbelieve just let Biden change his opinion without questioning it, they let his revisionist history stand as a statement of fact. You have all the answers now Beave. If you choose to not know these things now I'm done replying to you.

It’s much harder to address all of your lies like this. FYI Trudeau and Tam did recommend no masks, Trump didn’t chime in. Trudeau and Tam are just not as smart as I am, nor are you. What happened in May, after the damage was already done, is largely irrelevant. Trump did say many times that he wears a mask, he just didn’t make a big deal of it or wear it when he didn’t need to. He also didn’t hide in his basement. FYI people over 65 or with diabetes don’t have a high risk from covid. Healthy young people do not get hospitalized over covid. That was swine flu. 2000 children died from that, remember? It’s completely retarded that you won’t admit that Trudeau did literally nothing until March 16th. The rest of the world knows, but apparently you won’t acknowledge it until CBC says it. ‘Various reasons’ lol. The main ones being blocking travel and telling people to wear masks. Trump was 45 days ahead on travel and he didn’t tell people not to wear masks. Do you really fail to understand that? Lmao. That’s pathetic eyeball (yeah we all know). We all know that C19 isn’t a total nothingburger, but what we do know for sure is that the current level of lockdowns is overblown. We went from doing literally nothing when it was crucial to take action, to locking the door, putting plywood on the windows, burning all the trees and grass, and wrapping the house in bubble wrap after we already brought the disease inside of it. If you don’t understand how “wide open Canada” when the virus wasn’t here yet, and “lock down everything including outdoor parks in Canada now that the virus is here” is stupid that’s no surprise eyeball. Yeah Fentanyl isn’t contagious lol. You’re full of useful information ?

You're really reaching now to take umbrage with Trump's actions lol. "Uhhhh, ok, he did way better than Trudeau, but did he do it because he wanted to or because his party wanted him to?" LMAO. Why don't you ask this instead: "Why did Trudeau do exactly not one single worthwhile thing for the first 2 months of Covid? Was it because he didn't want to, because his party didn't want him to, because the people of Canada didn't want him to.....? Was it because he's incredibly stupid?" You can sort that out within your own head. I don't care, it makes no difference to me. I'm judging him by his actions and there's no reasonable excuse for our PM, with all the medical advisors he has, to not be able to at least copy the actions of the US or Japan. I'm not even asking that he figure it out for himself (of course that's too much to ask from that wee fool), or for our medical professionals to figure it out by themselves, but when they see other people taking the basic, obvious precautions, just have an a-ha moment instead of criticizing their reasons for doing it.