WestCanMan

Whatever there was when Bush took over, it wasn't a large country Beave, and you know that but you are too much of a liar and Obama sycophant to admit it. Follow the numbers Beave... They go, "1, 2, 3, 4", from top to bottom. FYI: 1) when Bush left office there was no country known as islamic state, there was an unstable Iraq which was being successfully propped by US troops (albeit at the cost of many casualties) and a stable Syria, 2) by Obama's own words, islamic state was "just a Jr Varsity terrorist squad" when he took office, 3) islamic state grew to be one of the 100 largest COUNTRIES on earth while Obama was POTUS, 4) by Obama's estimate it would take 5 years to get islamic state off the map. In summary: islamic state was officially a Jr Varisty terrorist squad in Nov 2008, islamic state became one of the largest 100 countries in the world and they grabeed 100% of that land mass during the Obi-wrong Presidency, islamic state was on pace to remain a nation for 5 years under Obi-wrong's plan, but Trump had them whipped like dogs after 3 months and almost entirely wiped off the map within 6 months. IE, islamic state for all intents and purposes was really just a thing under Obama. 0 minutes before his Presidency and a few short months after his Presidency. And further to another idiotic post that you had above, questioning what Trump did to stop terrorism in the US and abroad... - Trump filled Iraq and Syria with islamic state corpses and created a new world where no one puffs out their chest and says "I'm the leader of this terrorist group!" by killing all of their leaders, including Suleimani. When there isn't anyone bold enough to crow, there are far less people willing to 'follow'. History is rife with armies and mobs that vanished when their leaders fell. It's the norm. Bite the head off the snake. Don't worry Beave, you'll see soon enough what foolish & feckless leadership can do to prop up your enemies once Biden is at the helm. The contrast will be stark and very unfortunate for a lot of decent, innocent, freedom-loving people. You'll get your chance to repeat the leftist mantra: "It's too early to say whether or not islamic terrorism was to blame, this van/bomb attack is just a gun control issue right now" over and over again.

According to the dictionary it is, but leftists use CNN as their dictionary, so 'opinions' here will vary.

That's not germane to this discussion. Fact is that you can't just say that Trump is a liar for repeating things that several people testified to under oath. Get it Beave? Sure it is. Lying to achieve that end is not an established legal means though. Libel and slander are not recognized means for a legal regime change. When Brennan, Clapper etc were saying those things to muppets who watch CNN they were creating an environment in which idiots felt justified to participate in verbal and physical attacks on members of the GOP. Members of the government were harassed, assaulted and shot. He said "walk down to the Capitol' you liar. It was half of 2014, all of 2015 and all of 2016, but they didn't instantly stop when Trump took over. The atmosphere where idiots felt like it was the will of their anointed one that there should be rioting, looting arson, cop-killing and murder didn't go away overnight. The riots under Trump were nowhere near 3 years long fool. Floyd was killed on May 25th and to that point there hadn't been a single riot. The Bodycam footage was leaked in early August, effectively ending the Obama's beloved riots. Only the ultra-dolts in Portland were still acting up after that. Chaz was cleared and the BLM cops stopped murdering black kids on July 1. I dunno if you made that up or if you're quoting someone who's equally stupid but there wasn't a genocidal theocracy controlling a nation-sized land mass when Bush left office, aside from maybe Pakistan. You're wrong again, as usual. Geez, I wonder why that is. FYI Russia was a nobody on the international scene for over a decade before Obama came along and muttered his famous quote to Romney to the effect that: "The 1990's called - they want their Russian foreign policy back" or whatever. He was convinced that the Russians were no longer a threat and he ignored them. Nunes and the House Intel Committee warned Obi-wrong that the Russians were working hard at interfering in the US elections and Obi-wrong droned on interminably about how it was impossible. Then during Obama's weak and stupid terms in office, Russia bought a couple hundred thousand dollars worth of FB ads and gave Trump a victory lol (I'm joking, but a lot of completely worthless idiots actually still believe that). They also took over Crimea and some territory along their border with Ukraine. In short, they took what they wanted while Obi-wrong wrung his hands and fretted. Russia didn't manage to sweet FA while Trump was POTUS though, aside from helping to kill islamic state, and getting a bunch of their own soldiers wasted when they approached a US base. I'm sure this is all news to you but you don't need to Google it all, because in stark contrast with you, I only say things that are true. Blah, blah, blah (translates to "wrong, wrong, wrong", as usual). They say a picture is worth a thousand words, but in this case only two are needed. "You're wrong" (unless the Bureau of Labor Statistics is wrong lol): Always fun chatting with ya Beave. Have a really terrific day 8)

What about Pelosi saying, "I don't know why there aren't uprisings all over the place"? What about Kamala Harris's exchange with Colbert during the rioting and murders: "Words mean things" lol.

1) The act of sedition involves a call to action, not just saying things that you believe in your heart to be untrue. 2) From what I've seen, Trump is just reiterating things that others have sworn to in affidavits and have testified to in court, and last I heard none of them were charged with perjury. 3) After all the lies that Schiff, Clinton, Clapper, Brennan et al have said over the past three years, with the sole purpose of unseating a duly elected President, the sudden concern in the US over the act of sedition is a total joke Aristides. Granted, a serious line was crossed in Washington, but Trump didn't even hint that anyone should go to that extent.

There was other violence. Pushing the gates back into and over the police is pretty bad, there were scuffles there, and I heard reports of teargas being used on officers but I don't know if that's true. If it is then someone is royally screwed. That's worthy of several years in jail imo.

1) You can't keep calling a person a liar and then not offering proof, and saying stupid things isn't considered proof of anything. Your lying is getting out of hand. 2) FYI those things are EXACTLY the kinds of things that constitute support of rioting when you do all those things in support of a group that is inciting riots. And FYI BLM wasn't a bunch of 'peaceful protestors' Beave. They selectively edit video to make police look bad and then disseminate their deceitful trash as broadly as they can for the sole purpose of inciting rioting you genius. I didn't even read any of the rest of your post. There's literally no point. I've already offered up enough proof of the abject worthlessness of it.

1) Kudos for at least knowing what the word means, even if you just learned it from reading the definition there. 2) There were 500 speeches given by various Dems, their stooges and CNN taking heads during the last 4 years which were seditious too, far more if you include crap from the collusion fiasco. They had their supporters out harassing, attacking and shooting at members of the gov't in case you've forgotten. Their little turds even did things like put pictures of themselves on social media holding an effigy of the POTUS's severed head, they talked about assassinating the POTUS, talked about blowing up the whitehouse.... Those are all textbook examples of sedition which, if unpunished, have the net effect of legalizing it. And TBH, all Trump did was organize a protest against the people who want to sweep widespread election corruption under the rug. There really were too many examples of 'voting irregularities which all favoured one side' even if it can't be proven to the satisfaction of a court that it was all done for the purpose of actively committing fraud. If you can cite where he told people to attack anyone or seize control of government buildings, that's sedition, but organizing a protest is not sedition.

Nothing says "diminished sense of security" like: -the three full years of racial violence, rioting, looting, killing and arson that happened under Obama, -the litany of terrorist attacks against the USA and the rest of the world while Obi-wrong was POTUS, -the growth of a nation-sized genocidal theocracy in the middle east, -Russia's sudden rise to world-class douchebaggery, and -the rise to prominence of rocket-man. Also, wages went up by several times as much in just 4 years under Trump as they went up in 8 years under Obama. A good example of democracy faltering is when a criminal with dementia has the power to turn the Supreme Court into kangaroo court. Nice try though Reefer. A... sawwwinganamisssss.

They used the word sedition wrong on CNN yesterday (I saw a clip of Joke Yapper), no surprises there because they're dolts at the very best, and you just copied them. For your edification: se·di·tion /səˈdiSH(ə)n/ noun conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.

If it wasn't live it doesn't count right Beave? You cracked the code big guy. Give yourself a big, fat star. At-that uz-way arcasm-say. On't-day ell-tay eave-Bay.

Yes "Dem-led riots". Did you ever have any doubts about the fact that the Dems supported the rioting? They supported everything from anthem kneeling, playing a black national anthem, painting BLM on city streets while the BLMers were burning down cities and murdering people, they supported de-funding the police until they saw how much that hurt their popularity, they hid bodycam footage from the public in G Floyd's death while the riots were causing billions in damages plus 20 lives..... I know that you like to play stupid here but even you can't deny that the Dems supported the rioting 100%. FFS Hillary even went on TV and bemoaned her white privilege. And if you're keeping score, Trump told rioters twice in the span of a few hours to chill the f out but that's not enough for you? (You can count to two, right? Or do I need to point them both out in your own post that's quoted above?) Obama and the Dems told the rioters to tone it down zeeeroooo times from 2014 thru 2016. Them and their buds at CNN even said that protests didn't even need to be peaceful. They justified the riots every time they went on TV by talking about how bad the police were instead of talking about how bad burning homes and killing people was. Then they really threw gas during the 4 months of rioting in 2020, and you think they're just grand Beavie? Do I have to explain the difference between how Trump talked about rioting and how Obama talked about rioting to you? I bet that I do, I'm just not going to bother because everyone else gets it. Your comments are morally repugnant and utterly disgusting. Last thing - the day the bodycam footage came out the G Floyd riots dropped off the face of the earth. They didn't even fizzle out, they just ended abruptly. Try telling me that Ellison didn't know what was on that footage lol.

Unfortunately for you, you're not gonna be able to find any conservative websites or news outlets who say that the loss of 5 lives was an acceptable outcome. They're just not dishonest enough to categorize 5 deaths as 'mostly peaceful'. We both know that I can find multiple quotes from every alt-left media outlet in the US that called the riots 'mostly peaceful'. It's a buzzword that they're prompted to use. Also: Of the 5 deaths that you named it appears that one of them died from a heart attack. I'm surprised that they didn't count this one as covid. And a stroke victim. So it's down to 1 person killed by police, and two geezers who possibly just keeled over. Still unacceptable though.

Hilarious disinformation (FYI that means lies). The Dems, CNN and Obama knew that there was going to be bloodshed and violence on almost every single night that it ever happened (eg, on nights after a decision came out in the court, or when lies and disinformation about a new event were actively being spread by the media). There was never any stern reproach. The rioters were never called out for the criminals that they were. The Demmies never did their best to stop it, they eggged it on and provided false justification for it. They never even told the public when new information had come out that proved the old theories to be wong. For example: 1) When the body-cam footage of G Floyd's arrest was made public CNN never even showed it. They showed a heavily-edited version of it which didn't show key parts of the incident, and they posted known disinformation on it while they did it (a statement from Floyd's family's lawyers which said that 'police approached the van with guns drawn because there was a black man in the van'. The video footage clearly showed that the guns weren't out until after the officers told Floyd MULTIPLE TIMES to put his hands where they could see them - Floyd was rummaging under the passenger seat while officers were telling him that over and over again. You'd have to be a complete idiot to rummage under the seat of your car while an American cop has you pulled over.) Did you notice that after the body-cam footage was released the rioting across America instantly stopped? Sure, CNN refused to show it, but the people who were rioting actually cared enough to look at the video footage on the internet and when they did it took all of the wind out of their sails. FYI it was a high-profile Dem, AG Keith Ellison, who chose to stifle that partially- exculpatory (mitigating anyways) body-cam footage despite the fact that incendiary footage of other parts of the arrest were very public. It sure seems like Ellison wanted the rioting to occur, because he knew as well as anyone what that footage showed. 2) The Dems, CNN and Obama let the Brionna disinformation run unchecked for months after she was shot. They didn't say squat to set the record straight. 1) She wasn't in her bed, 2) the police did knock despite the fact that they had a warrant which said they didn't have to, and 3) the shooting happened after her boyfriend opened fire on the cops, who at the time were executing a legal search warrant. How big of a deal is it for people to know that a cop was shot before Brionna was shot? How heinous was the shooting compared to the version of events that was making the rounds? FYI allowing disinformation to be spread and not doing anything about it, when you have the power to easily set the record straight like CNN, Obama and the Dems did, is just as bad as spreading the disinformation yourself. People were getting killed and businesses were being destroyed while the truth was considered verboten. There was one day with rioting by Trump supporters and they didn't kill anyone. The Dem-led riots went on for months and almost two dozen people were murdered. It's like the difference between moonlight and sunlight.

Obama made the Trayvon Martin case out to be something that it wasn't, which stoked racial division. He also played up the Michael Brown incident like something that it wasn't, which again stoked racial division. He also stood in front of 5 murdered cops, and instead of just lambasting the killers as inhuman filth, he insinuated that centuries of slavery and discrimination were partly to blame for their murders. Then, during the worst rioting in 3 years (summer 2020) Michelle Obama gave a speech to new grads praising anger and demonstrations, without a hint of disgust at the racial violence, murders or arson that occurred during those riots. Add in that CNN and the Dem puppet-masters were calling the riots 'mostly peaceful' and even saying things to the effect that the riots were important enough that the violence (which was known to include several murders at the time) and destruction was just part and parcel of the bigger picture. I get that you don't want to acknowledge that the Obamas are vocal supporters of rioting and looting, but that has nothing to do with facts and everything to do with where your head is lodged.

Right. This all looks very interesting, but it's also worth noting that his family were devout muslims and one of his best friends since childhood was busted with over 50 kilos of carfentanyl. 2 milligrams of that stuff is enough to be lethal to most people. IE, he had enough murder-drug to kill about 25M people. Why did Faisal have murder fantasies from a young age? I dunno. You offer up your best guess Beave. The whole point is that every time a muslim goes on a killing spree there's an instantaneous rush to distance their actions from their religion, even when they praise their god while they're busy massacring random, innocent people. Omar Mateen was a perfect example of a guy who praised allah while he was gunning down people in a gay bar. The MSM blamed gun laws and Republican hate speech, although AK-47s were illegal before Mateen was born and there's no Republican war cry that anyone can cite which praises allah. Therefor, I contend that I have ample room to suggest that the people who were involved in yesterday's rioting can't be called 'Trump supporters' merely because they wore MAGA hats and chanted about the election being stolen. It's far more likely (by CNN's standards) that they're a bunch of pro-abortion radicals. Here's a photo of a gay parade in NYC that happened a week after Omar was killed (a week where CNN tried desperately to connect Omar's actions with 'Republican hate speech', although they had no cites showing where Republicans had ever advocated for any gay bashing let alone murders. CNN just offered their baseless accusations to their muppet horde, just like they did when some Jews were killed in Pennsylvania and CNN rushed to blame Trump (FYI Trump's son-in-law is a Jew, his grandkids are being raised in the Jewish faith, and he's the most pro-Israeli POTUS ever. By contrast, there's the fact that America's most virulent anti-Semites are hard-core Democrats)). Anyways - the photo:

What a coincidence. Did you know that I was wrong for the first time in my life the other day? I said: "Not all leftists are idiots. Some are just liars." Turns out that even the liars are idiots.

I'm sure that you're accustomed to being wrong by now. I'm one of those who said that 'there is proven, widespread election fraud in the swing states, but it will be almost impossible to prove it'.

Huh? Only leftists support rioting, tearing down statues, looting, arson, racial violence and murders in the name of [insert fake cause here]. Leftist news: "The protests were mostly peaceful. They happened right there, in that smoking 7-square block wasteland with the dead bodies in it. All hail the cause."

Obama was a first class dog whistler who fear mongered police and stoked racial division at every turn. He said nary a word to discourage rioting, and as soon as it sprung up again in 2020 him and his stanky wife started pushing racial division and fear mongering police again. Again, you're the liar. This is getting old Beave.

I never said that Trump would be President in 2021. I said that Biden won't be President anymore by 2023, on account of his declining mental health.

I'll bet you that a lot of your heroes in Antifa are incels. Have you seen their mugshots? They're so ugly they can't even masturbate. Faisal Hussein.

Biden will be carrying around a suitcase full of Tonka trucks, Depends, prune juice and pablum. But don't worry, he will still manage to get plenty of people killed.

Obama incited riots for 3 years straight. Duh.

Nope. They aren't Trump supporters. They're incels. That's a little trick I learned from the CBC.