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Not by what I meant. It is fully on topic.

I agree these Imams must be silenced. For as @jacee and @Michael Hardner have said, oppressing free speech is free speech. Yeah, that sounds logico...

That he has fired his public relations team is perfect evidence of what the problem is. Mr. Scheer is correct that he wasn't getting the right message out. But the problem wasn't the message at all in this case. It was the messenger...

Horseshit. I'm for an addendum to the "Zero Tolerance for Barbaric Cultural Practices Act".

I dislike their negative-option billing...

I think I disagree... the whole incident was so fast, from the time he did the on-air show to the time he was dismissed, emotions were running too strong. That is why it's important sometimes to wait during an important event and let those charged up emotions drain away, before reacting. In my experience as a leader, you need to give people a little time to reflect, and see what they come back with. I'll wager Cherry would have second thoughts about his position, if he had a little cooling off period. When you get up to microphone you are extremely vulnerable. A person puts their career, their future on the line every time they speak and look into a camera. One slip up and it might be over for you. Both media producers and consumers need protection.

In addition to all that you said, which I agree with, I think it is a sign of something else. If HNIC had still belonged to the CBC when this happened, I say he might not have been dismissed.Cherry was not booed off the stage. He was dismissed by the corporation Sportsnet. And Sportsnet is a business, it owes no allegiance to Cherry or his legacy, what Cherry might represent in the conscience of Canadians. There are no folk-heros in corporate culture. There is no history. Places, like Maple Leaf Gardens, no longer exist. Now we have Air Canada Centre, Rogers Centre, Bell Centre. But if they don't give the same funding next year, the place will be renamed. Sorry not ROgers Centre now it's Canadian Tire Centre. Where the hell is that arena Nowhere... it doesn't exist. Corporatism the death knell of culture.

Yes, we know. I'm saying it didn't need to happen that way. The same outcome could have been achieved without all the media hysteria, and without disgracing a person with such a long list of accomplishments for Canada, and who is 85, for a slip-up. Cancel culture is permanent, there is no undo after Cancel. Cancel culture needs to learn a little forgiveness.

Kill the King

Real suppression of free speech is not done in those ways. It's off topic as well. I don't mind discussing it, but it is against forum rules.

Allahu Akbar.

Sure, military endeavours are "technically' soldier on soldier. I am only talking about general principles here. If we were to list the countries that do the most state-sanctioned killing, the trend will be obvious. Hence reference to "barbaric" practices. In principle, the Christian ethic upon which western law is built is "Thou shalt not kill". If we bend that rule too much, we risk becoming like those countries. They use public execution to incite terror in the minds of the people. The rule became "Thou shalt not kill, except for justice."

I say no. Not because of the question of punishment or vengeance, although our vengeance shouldn't be so hot. The state is a reflection of our values, and if we give the state the power to kill, it means we accept killing. That's a step towards barbarism, imo.

And you are allowed to complain that my ideas are horseshit, and then come back later saying the same things yourself. Presumably because I am well ahead of you, and in the meantime you have learned. The reason I said cancel culture will eventually cancel itself is I saw some reference to it the other day in the media stream. People are getting tired of the constant outrage and condemnation, and don't actually give much of a heck about a lot of things anyway. Apathy is a beautiful beach.

It seems like you are saying suppressing free speech is free speech. If you cannot see the contradiction in that then excuse me, but I cannot help you.

I agree, I can see Tulsi Gabbard taking down Donald Trump.

What, you believe it now? What happened to this: What happened at the open-mic comedy club? Did reality come and slap you up side o' your head?

I guess it’s just my big city upbringing that makes me want to do that. Even as a kid I was like that. I longed to thrash out, to tear down, to destroy and annihilate; to ravage, wreak havoc, and plunder. Cancel culture is going to turn upon itself.

Forgive doesn't mean forget, like, respect or want to pass to. I would lay him out on the boards. Catch him with his head down, total gong-show hit, skates right off the ice. Someone go get the big plywood board.

I know my good old hockey brothers out here, these men who are authentic country boys, farmers and tradesmen who've lived here all their life, Canada's true sons, even though their name has been removed from our very Anthem... they forgive Ron Maclean. Not because he deserves it, but because it is in their upbringing to forgive. They are what makes Canada great.

Your post exemplifies the absolutely moronic position the left have put themselves in. Any statement, any move Donald Trump makes must be attacked, no matter how dumb the premise of that attack is. The average Joe-Bob is generally too stupid notice this, so does it work? Yes it does. What I think's gonna happen is, all of this hype will have little to no effect on the partisans, who will keep the status quo. But the undecideds are people who are not loyal, and generally weigh the issues separately. They have a higher percentage of rational thinking brains among them. They are not likely to be swayed by this dog and pony show.

If Ron were half a man he would have told Sportsnet to go and F-off. Live. Now THAT would be a final closer for HNIC we all could love.