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Apples and oranges, mios amigos. Beware thinking your simplified cause-and-effect models are telling the real story. There could be many other factors coming into play. The same people who are vaccine hesitant might also do a poor job at things like physical distancing and avoiding inhaling the breath of others. Hence a higher propensity to catch a virus in this subgroup. Speculation yes, but it's possible.

It should be noted in between the fear mongering and cage rattling, all these mild infections among thousands should at least create some natural immunity. That’s why, soon enough you will see people who want to go and get the viruse

Certainly not. Team Canada needs the french hockey players!

The excess deaths is the number you want, but this is hard to nail down. For one there is annual cycles and natural variations. Understanding those is crucial to determining if the increase is significant or not. I guess if it is almost the same in previous years, it means the health care system has been and still is in a shambles. Canada's hospital beds are apparently loaded up to 90% occupancy on any given day, even before covid. Studies were presented here already or you can look it up. So your final line seems to say, "Yes well, we've killed off thousands in every year before, so." <shrugs>

Omnes generationes

The priests of covid have given out their latest incantation, Omicron Omnes, Generationes Omicron Omnes generationes

Quebecers are a disappointment. Look at the pitiful national leaders they give us.

Then perhaps the fact it has not happened is also showing us something about Quebecers, shocking and repugnant though it may seem. These are their choices, derived from their sense of morality.

It proves that good, auld adage, "A little knowledge is dangerous." And in this case very, very little! Where danger is proportional to 1/knowledge... You do the math

Interesting analogy. I'll have to try that drinking experiment...

You’re still alive? I lost a 5 dollar bet.

He is only following advice and comments from Mr. Trudeau, Doctor Tam, and the wonderful Doctor Moore whose mantra we will apparently hear tomorrow. More changes are necessary, because covid. Pray for death

That's interesting. We are bombarded daily with "covid data" and it is still too soon to draw conclusions. The issue of infection rate is so complex. I believe that those nations that tried to suppress infection by being restrictive and going into shutdown might have prolonged the outbreak and increased the number of waves. By staying indoors, the immune system is not given a chance to develop an antibody response. Then they got vaccinated. Those same overly-restrictive countries went further in vaccine enforcement than more permissive countries did. People who are not vaccinated may take greater care in avoiding exposures. People who are vaccinated may feel emboldened and go in large groups in indoor pubs, drink beers and eat steak and frites. The fools...

Glad that you brought these issues forward. I have tried to raise them as well, but was dismissed as a fool. One poster called me a nazi, and some others expressed their approval of said name-calling. Well, excuse my french but look at you #%^*ers now.

Why can they not both be accommodated? Why must we be forced to choose who lives and who will be let to die? While the wards are dark and empty, and the surgeon stayed home. It is an absurd choice to make, one that need not be made by a civilized society, not one as wealthy as ours. Yet rather than come up with solutions to alleviate the burden on hospitals, we collapse our society instead. Then give away billions that could have been used in much better ways to help defeat covid and save lives. So tell you what, tell you what. You people carry on with your marxism and your redefined scientific things. It just further proves what has always been abundantly clear, we are on a lost ship of fools.

It seems you are offended that Marx’s theories appear in conflict with Marxism as a reality.

People who think health care is a "zero sum game". Until they need it of course. Then they learn

Finger the people of NB again? Sounds great. Round them up, round them up. We need the cheap labour...

So you are doing your part, though not enough. Every state is reporting population decline, especially among first-world nations. There is a lot more to this than just having fun and sex. You are screwing for god and country!!

All because you people are liberal hedonists who don’t make babies.

I believe she meant 4 hours 20 minutes. Things get rather interesting there.

I know. Yet there is no rational explanation for the actions taken in relation to reported nature of the threat. Nothing makes sense. It is not health care these people are in the business of. The only thing that does make sense, is the conspiracy. My conspiracy theory is they want to kill off the next generation before they are born. That means system must retract, reduce, limit, confine, shut down health services, physical and mental. Shut down traditional gatherings, separate families and give the mentally unwell no quarter. ... But hey. At least we're not killing people, as in a war.

Beware a drowning liberal.

Mr. Trudeau has made comments on several occasions intended to vilify or demonize the unvaccinated. "The folks out there shouting — the anti-vaxxers — they're wrong." Trudeau said during his election campaign stop in Sudbury. "They are putting at risk their own kids, and they're putting at risk our kids as well." His speech emphasizes ideas like "anger", "consequences".