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People in Oshawa experience the consequences of Justin's "Sunny Ways".

The timing could hardly be worse, with Christmas only a month away. But the optics are even worse when considering the Trudeau government's recent and supposedly successful NAFTA (um, USMCA) renegotiation and Morneau's corporate tax cuts of last week. What's left of Canada's manufacturing sector, which once produced solid middle class jobs, is simply evaporating and it looks like there's nothing the government can or will do to stop it. Trudeau's pompous twaddle about sustaining the middle class and those "working hard to join it" surely must ring hallow for more people each day. When listening yesterday to the news about the closure of the Oshawa plant, I thought back to statements made by labour leaders a few short weeks ago about what a good deal the USMCA was/is. It appears their optimism was little more than wishful thinking. Would the last person to hold an ordinary middle class job in the private sector in this country please shut the lights off before shutting the door on your way out. The rest of us can't afford to pay to keep them on.

Sorry, but this would only be another emotional response with little impact...same as boycotting Heinz ketchup. Scream and shout in anger as needed, but it is better to get through the five steps of grief as soon as possible and move on....this is not the first plant closure in Canada. The underlying fundamentals of high labour costs, high energy costs, and taxes caused the loss of far more automotive jobs and plant closures long before today's GM announcement. Ontario has been bleeding away automotive jobs for at least 20 years.

Dream on. GM is restructuring and the cost of doing business in Canada/Ontario is too high. No number of boycotts will change their plans. Expect more GM plants to close.

You do realize that's the only reason he comes here, right? To taunt Canadians and make them mad. Explore the utility of your ignore file. It was made for trolls.

It's also worth remembering that in March the Liberals quietly forgave all outstanding loans to GM and Chrysler, likely worth billions of dollars.

This is less about the Ontario's competitiveness and more about the Big 3's competitiveness. There are non-Union Honda and Toyota assembly plans in Ontario doing very well. It's a larger discussion about why the Big 3 are getting their lunch fed to them by Korean and Japanese automakers when it comes to compact and mid-sized cars. Ford has moved away from almost completely (They'll still make the Mustang)

Dem media mouthpieces now arguing they need to ask Mexico to keep these migrants SOUTH of the border. Because now the optics of this situation benefit Trumps "close the border" stance. But... wait.. didn't you say earlier... ?

Actions have consequences. When you make the cost of doing business more and more expensive like the previous provincial government did, as well as the current federal government with their energy policies, things like this happen.

Unfettered anything is bad news. We do need global policies, but not as some strong world government. It's about preventing abuses.

There are bigger long term consequences caused by unfettered globalism.

Please stop with the anti-globalist paranoia. I know you don't mean to add to the problem, but it's causing huge problems for the world right now. Land use planning is as important as fighting climate change, addressing labour problems, and dealing with human rights. These things are often connected, but we are in a place where inaction or downright neglect is being promoted. There are very serious long-term consequences for such neglect.

Of course....Michigan and Ohio too...so what ? My area lost a 90 year old Ford truck assembly plant some years ago....it is being redeveloped into a light industrial park. GM has shed 30,000+ jobs in Ontario before this, but now it is serious because the last 2500 in Oshawa are going too ? Where was the big bad boycott back then ? Still waiting for a Canadian owned car make to build an assembly plant in the USA.

Two hours until Insight hits the top of the Martian atmosphere.

Did you read the news? Two US GM plants are also on the chopping block. This is about industry seeking cheap labour in all jurisdictions. Don't test Canadian consumers on this. The backlash will be swift and heavy, as it should be. Oshawa, Ontario, and Canada have given a lot to GM, arguably far too much.

Listening to NDP leader Andrea Horwath in Question Period practically begging Ford to bail out GM in Oshawa "to protect good paying jobs". She's not interested in listening to the adjustment initiatives to be taken by Ford. She basically wants the Province to buy out GM. Sorry Andrea, Ford won't fall for your socialist pleas. GM is gone in Oshawa and its guaranteed other GM plants will follow.

Only if they're trusted and have proof of voting National Socialist...I mean Liberal.

That first lie sets it all up for the other lies. OPEC cries when the price for a barrel of crude drops below 50 dollars. Saudi Arabia has been trying like mad to get the prices to rise, by cutting back on production, creating a 'shortage' that can drive the price up.

Too bad General Motors in Oshawa couldn't work for its survival. Trudeau's economic policies made sure of that. Carbon tax anyone? 2,500 jobs lost as well as thousands of spinoff jobs. Which "entity" will flea Canada next? Hey, maybe the unemployed GM workers can form a media outlet and get a subsidy from the Liberals.

GM to close Oshawa plant....how do you like NAFTA now ? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/gm-oshawa-plant-1.4920241

Hillary? You mean that lady who ran for president but lost, even though she got more votes? Why are you still talking about her?

Just wanted to check....keep building LAVs for the Saudis too...because economics trumps virtue.

Do you mean like Canada in Haiti ?

I read it differently. I read that the CIA said they had no hard evidence, but that most likely MBS would have been involved. Because in the Saudi regime, nothing gets done without being sanctioned by MSB. Else, off goes your head. As well as your brother's head, wife, sister, cousin's... No one over there said a damned thing, or else, so CIA's evidence was fairly circumstantial. The best they could conclude was that MBS most likely approved the execution.But that is all. So what would you like Donald Trump to do about it, start a war? One guy killed. Trump already imposed sanctions of some sort because of this. Anyone else impose sanctions? I googled for it, couldn't find much. What's Canada doing about it? Where's Trudeau on this? https://www.google.ca/search?q=Canada+sanctions+saudi+arabia CBC- Christie Freeland 'mum' on why Canada has not imposed sanctions on Saudi Arabia. That's nice. Maybe her kid can make her another T-Shirt. "Not Enough Cash-oggi" https://www.google.ca/search?q=turkey+sanctions+saudi+arabia Turks are full of bull crap, as usual... https://www.google.ca/search?q=EU+sanctions+saudi+arabia Euro-pansies, nowhere to be seen. They have their own problems now, I guess.

It’s time to abolish Canada Post and contract those services out to private companies like UPS etc.

Well you seem to be aware of something the philosopher Michel Foucault noted at least a few decades ago: Knowledge is power. Conversely therefore, those in political power who control the political discourse, but also those who dominate the media, are able to impose certain narratives about the world, which are hard to resist by virtue of their ubiquity. Nevertheless, a well-informed people who dig deeper than the dominant cultural narratives and research hard scrabble facts will eventually enter the popular discourse because of the power of their ideas. People can make a difference. I do think it's important to recognize that not all narratives are created equally. Yes we can look to the facts of science and statistics to form our opinions as much as possible, but in some cases we can have very different and opposing opinions about how to proceed politically after reviewing the same data points/science. Opinions can vary greatly among even very well-informed people reviewing very scientific "factual" data. This is where cultural narratives come in, the stories we create about our social groups and nation through folklore, mythology, and even religion (consider the Old Testament stories of the Jews, the early formation of the Church in Christianity, the descendants of Ismael in the Koran, the Church of England, etc.). The reason that many religious stories hold so much power, going back to some of our earliest stories, such as the Epic of Gilgamesh, is that they speak to human nature in the same way that a great Shakespearean tragedy resonates with people. Religion is the collective wisdom of a culture through storytelling. There is certainly danger in orthodoxy that doesn't consider different interpretations or recognize value in the myths of different cultures, but that doesn't mean we should disregard these great stories. The Bible is the most important book in western culture for many good reasons. It informs many of our laws and social mores. Most atheists would recognize that many of our cultural values are reflected in religious traditions and have at least to some extent derived from them. Having said that, we live in a dynamic world where opinions and interpretations change. There may well come a day where mainstream culture looks at these religious stories as nothing more than great stories. That doesn't necessarily reduce their power or importance. I do think it's important to recognize that not all cultural myths are created equally. Not all are as universally true or particularly helpful to the stability and healthy functioning of a society, especially a multicultural, 21st century society. We need to look at science and statistics as litmus tests. We have to consider the impact or potential impact of accepting or rejecting certain narratives, especially if such narratives represent a very real threat to the culture, values, or very existence of a people. We need to respect the traditions and collective wisdom of a culture, and we need to appreciate that to some extent the existing culture will always hold a privileged place in a society unless or until better ideas are embraced by the society. This can only happen through the strength of our arguments, supported by facts, and considering the headwinds of the power brokers who dominate the society's narratives. I would just caution people to be wary of revolutions and any acts or views that cause unnecessary hardship for people. I realize that the larger groups and majority will tend to dominate and that their needs will usually carry the day politically in a democracy, but that's why we have to have constitutions and laws like the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, to protect minority rights.