The Orville is a very strange show. I figured, okay, Seth McFarland, it's going to be a rollicking South Park in space. It's not rollicking. It's not even funny. It's mildly amusing in places. The modern conversational gambits placed in a Star Trek setting are a bit weird, like having the black weapons officer on the bridge jump up and shout "Yeah bitch! How you like that!?" after blowing up an enemy ship, for example. Having things like a robot asking the captain if he intends to copulate with the first officer are occasionally amusing. But oddly enough, the 'comedy' works a lot less well than the science fiction. The actual SF storyline, about discovering a 2,000 year old colony ship where the colonists had forgotten they were on a ship, was pretty good. Lose the attempts at comedy, and the cheesy (I think deliberately so) visuals of the Orville and you might have a decent science fiction show.
Speaking of which, Star Trek Discovery seems promising. I like the main characters, the storyline and visuals are pretty good. There was a lot of action in the opening pair of shows, which look like they ended with the main character being court martialed. We'll see where things go from here. She seems like a more interesting character than Captain Janeway from Voyager.