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I think you should run on over to Smallc's new website and report on this in a thread titled "thread drift". That would be a scoop. As you are well aware (since you post there) not so kind comments are made about a number of MLW posters. And to think you and members on that site would not be aware that those insults would get back to MLW members. Now I ask you, who are the children and the "mentally challenged", as you put it?

Canada's natural resources sector provides 1.74 million jobs and 16% of our GDP. It also provides $25 billion in tax revenue to government and $200 billion in exports. You think we're going to replace all that with solar panels, most of which are made in south Korea or China anyway?

It's worse than that...one of Hollywood's mental midgets is blaming hurricanes on Trump:

I would freak if I ran into one, we see grass snakes up north now and then and other types in Florida... That family was darned lucky it didn't get into the house.

I don't consider it racist but it was wrong posting the picture of a girl (or a boy), you know they will be harassed and demeaned.

Just another lying poll started up by the liberal liars again. You wish that my boy was not doing well. Seven more years before the lying democrats can give it a shot again. They can't seem to even find a leader that may help them to win. Tough chit for them.

Yep, he likes to dish it out but hates it when it comes back at him.

There's more to green technology than 'solar panels', but hey if you want to dumb it down to such a simplistic argument, I'm out. https://gereports.ca/category/clean-technology/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIv63l8LuY1gIVFG5-Ch07PgLMEAAYASAAEgIr1_D_BwE https://www.nrdc.org/experts/nathanael-greene/us-clean-energy-market-hits-200-billion-global-market-135-trillion-thanks https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/05/02/two-thirds-of-canadas-electricity-now-comes-from-renewable-energy.html

What happened to the boa constrictor thread, I can't find it now... maybe I need new glasses.

Kurds and Iranians are different but at least culturally related. For example, Kurdish is classified as an Iranian language. Now many peoples can end up with a language that arose separately from most of their group e.g. Irish, English in America, and Turkish. One of the anxieties of the Turkish state arises from the self-evident fact that most Turks are not descendants of the Central Asian nomads who brought the language to Anatolia.

Global warming is a non-starter: not that man isn't mucking things-up (7 billion + toilets flushing and counting)....but humans will make themselves extinct before too long. The Earth will recover inside 1 million years.

In another status update, hoping to land an insult, The_Squid said about betsy and I "you two are quite a pair". To which I replied "of course, when you have two it is a pair". That made him look stupid so he deleted my comment.

How is this topic "arts and culture"? Are you seriously this challenged when it comes to knowing where you should post things, or are you just really bored and trolling? Maybe this topic is just too stupid to post anywhere on MLW....

You should really try to not take things so personally Betsy. I'm just going to wait for Charles to respond. Thank you.

I'm talking specifically about OPs and also specifically said I wasn't citing examples or calling people out.

You are shooting the messenger. Beyond the issue of posters evading questions or gaming the discussion, we have posters who can't get out of the gate with being able to state a claim and discuss it. If you try to correct people, they don't get it and think you're arguing the point even if you're just asking for clarity. I'm being respectful here so I won't cite examples.

I would appreciate a service whereby mods coach people on debating style and clarity. There was an OP about multiculturalism recently that has had multiple muddles and false starts.

I meant people like you, ie. people who disagree with multiculturalism, as I explained in the past few posts. No. To be honest I forgot you identified as non-white and -again- I was talking about people who oppose immigration/multicultural policies. Lots of 'ethnic' people are right wing. Sorry to offend you, but as I have said this was a misunderstanding about what we were discussing. All clear now.

This isn't the first time you brought up my being non-white, MH. What's my being an immigrant -got to do with this? Does it matter if I'm non-white taking the stance that isn't in-lined with your pre-concieved notions that all non-white wouldn't be thinking the way I do - thus you poke my skin color? I resent your racist insinuation....and you've got such a narrow-minded view if you think there are no ethnic people who are right-wing! That's the thing about the left wing. They're usually the ones who are racists.

Yes, I reluctantly agreed but again we weren't on the same page at that point. I thought we were discussing those who oppose multicult/immigration. I'm clear now thanks.

Ok, thanks. I get it now, and no I wouldn't try to argue with you that there's a bright side there. Agreed, generally.

This is a job for feminist breast man Justin Trudeau: http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/east-side-mario-s-bra-dress-code-work-1.4277827

Read the first line of my post. "Finally admit... what?" refers to Betsy saying I agreed with her saying this: "You can't say it's the "bright side," if you don't know whether they're learning the system in a positive way!: But that statement refers to people ('they') challenging policies (immigration/multicultural policies) in a positive way, which is what Betsy herself wants to do. So she's saying I 'finally admitted' that I only assumed people like HER would engage the system in a positive way. Yes, I'm having difficulty understanding which is why I was asking for clarity. Not "are" decades away but "might be" decades away. We have already had official multiculturalism for something like 40+ years and polls show Canadians favour diversity, that has developed within that set of policies. For now, it works. We can discuss it, watch it, but we're talking about a group that's something in the order of 3% of the population effecting institutional change on a mass scale. Like I say, go ahead and discuss it but individual incidents in Los Angeles, in a society without multiculturalism is a reach if you're trying to use that as reason to be concerned.

No, but if you want to decapitate someone on a bus, you will walk away free in Canada.

Now, that's a response to people posting nonsense.... more nonsense. Maybe they will like this post too.

I assume you meant the United States...not Canada. DACA criminals or other miscreant illegals most certainly are/will be deported no matter how well they know the theme song to Gilligan's Island. President Trump has the legal and constitutional high ground on this issue....the USA is not a dumping ground for illegals with hard luck sob stories. The Republicans are being made to face their own dysfunction. Trump isn't a beltway politician.

1. Yep. 66X though is hard to fudge if it's really <1X 2. Right. But if you follow where this came from - it was about security concerns about the Charlottesville marches. Nobody on this subtopic is debating their influence on society. I actually concur with you. 3. Thanks for the compliment on my obsessive posting style If the edited post is about my use of: " 'free speech/white pride movement' " The reason I have to use the ambiguous phrasing is that dishonest posters (not you my friend) misrepresent those groups. We even had one person today saying the Nazi killer in the Dodge was a Hillary Clinton supporter. Thank God for sane conservatives.... sorry... sane conservative.

1. Ok, and I mentioned that some dispute individual crimes. But with a 66X per capita ratio, it's pretty clear the scope we're looking at. 2. True. But as a reminder - the thesis I'm DISproving is that domestic security needs to pay MORE attention to homegrown Muslims than white supremacist groups. 3. All the stuff you mention is a side issue and off-topic from the 'freedom of speech' security issue we were discussing. I will post on another thread if you post it there.

You really think HE would agree with me that "a little bit of demonization" of America happens ? Your binary glasses are on again.

The one time I reported to you I was accused of abetting baby raping priests. You shit on me for having the audacity to complain. Well, the person doing it was one of your pet lefties, so I guess I deserved it in your eyes. No hypocrisy in moderation here folks.

Re: white nationalists ... ie, the thread topic ... post Charlottesville, a gathering of poor misguided buffoons and a few sociopaths who prey on them. Buffoons bragged about guns and 'killing them all'. Surprise night torch rally to beat up a few black people. Smash through clergy to try to deliver their hate messages. Shoot into a crowd. Turn tail and run when a few people fight back. Crazoid drives at people kills one injures 19. Crying Nazi learns that his pepper spray is a felony. What?! He didn't know? Quite a lot of bad publicity! In the aftermath, some Canadian white nationalist groups are now rallying to address their real issues: "Poverty and mental illness". Yup. For real. PEGIDA will talk about the influence of Islam on poverty.

Tell the US & allies to stop bombing their countries, then.

Cum Laude says: Public education is in trouble in 9 of 10 provinces with Quebec being the exception. Also, anyone who pays even minimal attention realizes that public education is becoming a joke. Ya so we should have more private 'free market' education so we can score in the 400's like the US, instead of the top 10 where we are now. Here's a graphic for PISA Math (dots are countries): .........CA............................US............................ I don't mind having an intelligent discussion on this topic, but your blanket propaganda statements smearing public education just don't make the grade in that respect.

What is your evidence for saying this? If you really are 'Cum laude' you'll back up what you say. Otherwise you're just 'sum loude'.

And now, a much better video featuring the same song as the previous video.

That statement. What is your evidence for that?

Can you clarify what you mean? Canadian students do well on international assessments, better in language than Math but still very good. http://www.cmec.ca/Publications/Lists/Publications/Attachments/365/PISA2015-CdnReport-EN.pdf https://www.cmec.ca/580/Programs-and-Initiatives/Assessment/Trends-in-International-Mathematics-and-Science-Study-(TIMSS)/Canadian-Results-—-Grade-8/index.html Ontario students did better than the national average on Pan-Canadian assessments: http://www.eqao.com/en/about_eqao/media_room/communication-docs/infographic-PCAP-highlights-ontario-results-2013.pdf Canadian adults have among the highest average education levels of any country. So I find your blanket statement quite odd. What are you basing that on?