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You're free to oppose extremists of any or no religious persuasion. You are not free to incite hatred against all Canadian Muslims by lumping them all with terrorists.

Your defense of Islam is also predictable. You're free to protect it from critics...Islam being a victim 'n all. Perhaps a law could be passed to make such criticism illegal. Then you and your ilk could put me in my proper place..... Prison for besmirching the Prophet. Happy days...

Fat boy is not the only possible source of major EMP. The sun could cause one too. Then there's unpredictable things like plagues, or maybe an eruption of one of the world's super volcanos, such as the one under Yellowstone national park. Or how about a huge cyber attack that takes down the grid, or the banks, which are all connected together by ATM networks? Does anyone think the banks spend one cent more than absolute minimum to secure their data? And even that is designed to secure it against hackers, not hostile foreign government efforts. Say you've got a million dollars in the bank. What evidence do you have of that? If their records are wiped, along with the backups, where's your money?

Realistically, if you happen to be in a city with a few weeks (let alone a year!) supply of food and water stored up while other people around you are starving, your biggest concern isn't gonna be the food/water supply but what a few bad actors from the surrounding population might be willing to do to sate their thirst and hunger. In case of apocalypse, best bet is to get out of major cities in the first day or two. Even run-of-the-mill natural disasters like you see in the US bring out looters and bandits, and that's while emergency and police services are still on the ground doing their best to help people and maintain order. Best "prep" you can have is a sturdy pair of hiking boots, some outdoor clothing, and a backpack full of the basic necessities including water filtration, a few weeks basic food rations, and an idea of where to go to wait things out.

Sorry - I'm trying to help the thread by framing the ridiculous argument as 'argument from authority' ... of one. But I'll desist if you're offended. If you don't see this line of discussion as ridiculous please feel free to defend it. The poster has already self-defined only fundamentalist Muslims as being Muslim and has engaged in exactly the circular explanation I outlined. If you don't want to debate that line of discussion and think it's logical then you're wrong also. As for the 'attack'... calling somebody great in a sarcastic way isn't much of one, but as I say I'll desist.

Fanatacism is dangerous with or without religion. You'd have to be quite dull, unstable or brainwashed by sociopaths to follow ANY religion's texts literally, in my opinion. And you'd have to be fanatic to slog through them to cherry-pick literal bits to use to smear all who practice that religion, to incite hatred against them.

DoP this thread is not about extremism in Islamic countries that 'drive others out'. It's about antiMuslim 'Nationalists' in Canada. Tty to be relevant.

So North Korea has allegedly exploded a big hydrogen bomb now, one that can allegedly fit onto an ICBC, and is threatening to use it on the US in an EMP attack. For those who aren't aware of it, an EMP is an electromagnetic pulse, which is something nukes give off. The theory, based on what happened when the US exploded a test bomb high up decades ago, is that if you set off a bomb up high, the electromagnetic pulse will basically destroy all sensitive electronics, most especially including power transformers, thus wiping out the electricity grid. This would not cause a day or a week of power loss, but potentially many months since the transformers would have to be rebuilt. And, of course, Canada would be hit by the same pulse. While some military equipment is hardened against EMPs, no civilian infrastructure has been hardened. Some estimate 90% of the population would die within a year or so of an EMP since we can't support our present population without electricity. Nothing much is being done about this. I doubt Canadian authorities even know what an EMP is. Some American authorities have been calling on the government to harden their public power grid for years, but the cost is estimated at $20 billion so no one has shown a lot of interest. On the other hand, the US has spent an estimated $400 billion in Afghanistan so... http://futurescience.com/emp.html

No, it will be hard to prep adequately on short notice, especially when there isn't enough spare money to spend. They can scrape by, building up their stock a bit at a time, but that takes time. The first order of the day would have to have some water and ready-to-eat food, in the event that you can't cook. Pork n beans and soups that have large amount of protein will be good. Peanut butter and crackers. Always eat the perishables in your fridge first, then go for the perishables in your freezer......before you start opening those cans. That extends your food supplies. Right now, just the food in the fridge and freezer - I'd say I'll have at least 1 week food supply for 4. Also, I tend to have 3 to 5 loaves of bread in the freezer (especially when they're on sale), and I do the same for peanut-butter and jam, so that should keep us going for a while. Water is very important. They say you can last for weeks without food, but - depending on the season - you can't last 5 days without water.

Good point. A few years ago, you will recall Ontario experienced a widespread hydro disruption and all ATM's were down. If you had no cash you were up shit creek to buy necessities. So, add to the non perishables a supply of cash in the event. Of course, those living hand to mouth cannot cover this contingency.

Yes. I have some thermal blankets, a tent, and a hell of a good parka, all weather matches, and some chemical warmers. OIl lamps will produce heat, too, as will candles. Not as good as a fireplace, mind, but my fireplace is gas and that will likely stop. I would suggest, depending on your income, checking a place like Bryden Solutions Canada for freeze dried food which can be stored for years, sometimes decades.

For young folks, yes...... it's best to get out of the city. But for the elderlies, and those who for health reasons can't go anywhere, or with nowhere to go - we'll just have to face what's coming. Hide some of your food and sacrifice some in your pantry. Group with family members - there's some safety in numbers.

I think everyone should be prepared, to some extent, for societal disruption caused by a number of factors. We are becoming more and more reliant on our computers. And those computers are highly fallible and subject to attacks, either from viruses or malware, or by other types of electronic disruption. Our society can no longer survive without them, not if they went down suddenly, without lots of lead time. Take down the computers and the electrical grid goes down, the water stops flowing, refineries stop working, so gas production stops, and gas stations need power anyway, homes don't get heated, no radios, no TV, and cars stop working. I have over a year of food (freeze dried), some water stockpiled, and other basic necessities, ie, candles, lanterns, lamp oil. It's not that expensive. It's a sort of insurance policy you hope you never have to use. I'm not a 'prepper' as such. I don't have any real plans and my house isn't jammed full of supplies for Armageddon and I'm not moving to an isolated farmstead build like a blockhouse where I can grow my own food. But I do like to take precautions. Cities have, generally, a three day supply of food. Anything that disrupts the supply chain with its steady flow of food and goods is going to make life very difficult, very quickly. Anything that stops water flowing through the taps is going to make things worse faster still.

It's hard to misinterpret some of the stuff in the Quran. It's pretty baldly antisemitic and goes on at great length about how unbelievers need to be treated. Maybe this was a part of the culture when the Quran and hadiths were written, but what's undoubtedly true is the impact on those cultures since then. If they weren't antisemitic and harshly rigid in their morality and biases towards women and other religions before - well, they are now. And it is those cultures that some of us would like to keep out of Canada. I don't think that makes me a 'nationalist' exactly, so much as cautious and careful. As far as some of the stuff in the Old Testament goes, well, that pre-dated Christianity, and no Christian nation, as far as I know, has ever tried to actually mandate laws based on that stuff. Certainly none do today, nor do any major churches (or ANY churches I'm aware of) advocate it. But you don't have to go far to find imams preaching the harsher stuff in the Quran.

And now, a much better video featuring the same song as the previous video.

Trolls and right-wing trolls... that's what this forum is made of.... nice job Charles.

Surrender? I can only wait at the top of the hill so long while the barbarians make faces and loud noises, but refuse to join the battle. I'm back for a bit because you finally made an attempt at a point. However, I need to sleep sometime to maintain this handsome visage, so I shan't tarry long. P.S. Which side of the pyrrhic victory are you in that analogy, the side that lost lost, or the side that lost in victory? Either way doesn't reflect very well on your debating skills. Actually, it's a trick question because I believe the real analogy you are looking for is the firing of parting shots while retreating with ones tail between ones legs, which has nothing to do with a pyrrhic victory. Certainly there are no parting shots by the surrenderer after the surrender, that would just be silly. Really the whole thing's a mess, so let's just forget about it shall we?

Koreans? C'mon people...stop falling for such dumb questions...I can't believe how easily DOP gets away with this nonsense. Its easy to see how we sucked ourselves into the Korean War.

What a dumb question, as a learned historian of considerable repute you know full well when he was in God mode He smote...God only knows how many. He kills and will kill everyone and everything eventually. It's how He rolls.

Lack of resolve ... oh, you mean my amused bewilderment? I recognise the point you are trying to make. It's wasted effort ... your aim is askew.

So the current and historical crimes of committed in the names of other religions are OK because their religious texts are slightly nicer?

From @dialamah 's link: Antifa traces its roots to the 1920s and ’30s, when militant leftists battled fascists in the streets of Germany, Italy, and Spain. [Local note: 1930's Toronto, Christie Pits 'riot' was Italian (ballplayers) anti-fascists backing up their Jewish friends (the ballplayers on the opposing team) against the intruding white supremacist nazi fascists.] When fascism withered after World War II, antifa did too. But in the ’70s and ’80s, neo-Nazi skinheads began to infiltrate ... and ... young leftists, including many anarchists and punk fans, revived the tradition of street-level antifascism. In the late ’80s, left-wing punk fans in the United States began following suit, though they initially called their groups Anti-Racist Action, ... these activists toured with popular alternative bands in the ’90s, trying to ensure that neo-Nazis did not recruit their fans. ... Trump ... For antifa, the result has been explosive growth. ... “Suddenly,” noted the antifa-aligned journal It’s Going Down, “anarchists and antifa, who have been demonized and sidelined by the wider Left have been hearing from liberals and Leftists, ‘you’ve been right all along.’ ” "right" in that fascism must be squashed.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/thinkprogress.org/clergy-in-charlottesville-e95752415c3e/amp/ Meet the clergy who stared down white supremacists in Charlottesville This one is interesting too. The actions of clergy ... and Antifa. The white supremacists went there to do violence, did violence the night before their scheduled rally. They always deserve to be shut down and run out of town. And they are being shut down. I believe their growth is being interfered with.

I frankly think it's time to stop the daintiness and excuses and knock NK off line before this parade of horribles even starts.

That would be Trudeau. You remember, the guy who refuses to uphold Canadian law. These people are not refugees, they are looking for welfare (which is paid for via taxes). The people coming across the border are doing so illegally - why the hell isn't the government instructing the RCMP to do their frickin job and prevent it? How many other crimes are the Liberals going to "turn a blind eye" to? Car theft? Rape? Election fraud? The people crossing should be prevented from doing so by armed RCMP or CBSA agents. Staring down the barrel of a .223 will turn all but the dumbest away. Putting in trailers for illegals is aiding and abetting. Pure and simple, which means the Liberals, the RCMP and CBSA agents involved in this sham are actually breaking Canadian law.

I've known precisely what my conscience is for ever since kindergarten. Why on Earth would anyone need to pray for guidance, in the case I presented?

Shazzam Kactus! --- This is the government and the system that Zionist fanboys continuously and unconditionally defend. Israel releases Palestinian clown after two years without trial Muhammad Abu Sakha, who teaches children with special needs at a circus school in the West Bank, is released after spending two years in Israeli prison. He was never once charged or brought to trial. Zionism is a sick ideology. What they do to the Palestinians and have done to the Palestinians would NEVER be accepted in Canada. The treatment of the Palestinians, whether they live in the occupied territories or inside Israel is much different than how Israeli Jews are treated. This is discrimination and racism.

Get the Khadr payment leaker...because it embarrassed Trudeau. http://globalnews.ca/news/3709390/omar-khadr-settlement-leak-investigation/?utm_source=GlobalNews&utm_medium=Fac

I too love the Olympics and watch as much of it as I can and I agree with your suggestions. Spreading the events over several countries will help to reduce costs, ensure countries get well needed venues and spread out the security costs. It's a shame that countries are no longer bidding simply because of the costs.

Did you miss it?

We can always blame the Scotsman. But no religion claims any terrorists.

Right wingers refuse to do anything about the way the left is constantly ruining the world, especially for the children.

Interesting. So called 'Islamic' extremists seldom/never go to mosque.

What do these extremists have to do with Canadian Muslims? In Canada their greatest concern is people like you who try to incite hatred and violence against them, encouraging unstable Canadian extremists to shoot and kill them while they pray.

There it is...

Whatever the cause $10 says it'll be the left that's blamed for it.

Yes he's demonstrated that with his Siekh member of Parliament who is accused of sexual harassment and he does sweet phack all but when it was to white mp's boom they were out of caucus with no investigation. Why the double standard?. My answer is he does not want to alienate the Siekh community because Trudeau is a racist bastard and believes Siekhs are too, i.e., will put their ethnicity ahead as a priority to proper ethical behaviour with women. This is what Liberalism is all about and the double standard is there for all to see. If women buy into this sob's feminist act they are naïve. He's a manipulative eunuch.

The actual story: Trump acts preemptively with the governor to declare state of emergency, they organize money and provisions before storm even arrives, rescue efforts (from everybody) are going off as well as can be expected and with minimal deaths. Citizens are helping other citizens (in "racist" Texas) regardless or political leanings, race, gender, age or sexuality. Trump visits area as soon as possible, gives inspiration to Texans and promises immediate and unwavering support for Texans. Praises efforts of all involved. CNN/MSNBC's version of the story: "Look at Melania's shoes, she's so out of touch"...."Look at Trump's hat, he's obviously just here to sell his brand".

We're drifting. But, if that's what you get from my statement...that I'm trying to excuse the Nazis...you're just looking for a fight. I've been a student of history since I was a child and have discussed this subject before it was fashionable to call everybody you disagree with a Nazi. That's all I have to say.