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Blahahahhhhahhahaa No, I have a feeling she likes to look and see what the many many many people on her ignore list are saying about her.

Altai--if I'm not still under your intellectual embargo--you ought to consider a few things. First, I doubt the FBI or CIA control American elections. You're looking at the rest of the world through Turkish eyes; in other words, you're projecting your own country's dictatorial faults on other countries, do you understand what I am saying? Second, Canada is basically a "crowned republic" of sorts. Yes, it has a queen. But she's a figurehead and has absolutely no say over Canadian elections. Even "her" representative in Canada, the GG, is more or less an appointee (or recommendee, on paper at least) of the prime minister. Add to that the fact that he or she is always a Canadian. Long gone are the days when the GG of Canada or any other "dominion" state, as they were once called, was overseen by a Briton. The Crown has authority, but no power, over Canadian politics. (However, the Canadian premiership comes pretty close to a dictatorship, but it's got some democratic checks on it. Whether those democratic checks are sufficient is up for debate I've noticed, among the Canadians on this site, lol) I would not call the "election" of Mohammed Fatah al-Sisi "democratic" by any means. He pulled the same sort of shenanigans to get elected that Hosni Mubarak did in his "open" re-election of 2005. It was a sham, and everybody knows it. (Maybe you don't?) Then, for about a year, he kept delaying parliamentary elections so that he could run the country by executive fiat. You are right about Japan (certainly Russia as well), but not about the others you mentioned. Japan has been ruled by the Liberal Democratic Party since 1954, with only two short interruptions of a couple years each during which one of the opposition parties actually won the elections to the National Diet for a change. That has caused some corruption of course, and there is much cronyism between Japanese business leaders and the LDP governments. Countries such as Germany, the USA or Canada are indeed stable countries. They certainly all have a crap-ton of faults within their political systems, but they are stable democracies. You cannot have a democracy that is unstable or it won't remain democratic very long. You are correct in that assessment. Democracy dies in anarchy. They are stable because they are democratic governments that evolved over time, with carefully-written constitutions that the governments created by those constitutions [usually] respect and follow. They're not changing military juntas as often as we change our underwear. But then again, if I'm still under your embargo, you won't get any of this.

Yes, it can really challenge your patience. Whenever I feel impatient with elderly people, I remember I have a Grama in Ontario who is the wisest, most kind person I have ever known and I hope people there are being patient with her. I promise if your Grama is in Alberta, I'm being patient with her, too.

Mainly because your POV has been proven wrong time and time again. But you are free to think whatever you want.

Now I know you won't accept certain sources ... Sorry warning FAKE NEWS !!!!! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/dec/31/iraq.politics http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exclusive-cia-files-prove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/ http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/longroad/etc/arming.html Giver your best Dog!

They learned their lesson after WW2. Instead of crippling reparations, there was the Marshal Plan. VW, now the worlds largest car maker, owes its post war existence to Ivan Hirst, an ex British army engineer officer who got their plant up and running in spite of everyone in the industry saying it couldn't be done. To the great regret of the British motor industry I would imagine.

Mining did play a huge role in Vimy sucess, but so did many other things also played a huge role, like the rolling barrage, invented and show cased for the first time in vimy, this invention allowed Canadian infantry to walk up to the enemy trench lines , while Germany infantry were pinned down, not able to get set up on the tops of the trenches with thier machine guns....Sounding and flash reporting , developed by Canadians to spot and pin piot enemy arty guns, was used before the attack , allowing our arty to eliminate or thin their guns....Table top models , Only Vimy was huge scale model showing in detail the enemies positions from every trench, gun, enemy emplacement, "every company" involved in the attack got to spend time studying it rehearsing their responsibilities... MAP's another huge asset, every SNRNCO, officer, had paper maps , that describe their route to all their objectives, on it was marked all enemy positions, trenches, enemy troop concentrations, medical aid stations, etc etc.... Vimy although not the turning point in the war , was a victory when allied troops needed it, it also seen massive improvements on how to conduct a massive troop assault. improvements that are still used today, or still taught as a back up method to the tech we have today, such as sound and flash reporting for arty, MAPs, and ground sandboxes still used today....rehearsals of actual battle procedures to be used.....is an everyday tech that our soldiers are taught as tool on the modern battle field..... And while they may not seem like much.....they changed how we fight, forever not just the Canadians but the entire world adapted these techs in one of there many forms.....

We don't. The shortage of doctors is due to policy. It could be alleviated by changing policy but we aren't doing so. As for other workers, there is no skills shortage. A second study in less than a week has concluded that there is no labour shortage in Canada, nor is one expected to arrive in the next few decades. A study published Friday by a University of Lethbridge professor echoes results of a report by the federal government’s Parliamentary Budget Office released Tuesday — both conclude there are more than enough workers on a national basis in Canada to fill available jobs. http://www.calgaryherald.com/business/Study+debunks+Canadian+labour+shortage/9674478/story.html Dire warnings of a widespread Canadian labour crisis and a “lost generation” of young workers have been overblown, according to a market analysis by TD Economics. Deputy chief economist Derek Burleton says demographic and economic shifts may be hitting young workers particularly hard, but he doesn’t believe projections of across-the-board labour shortages and skills gaps. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/10/21/skills-gap-canada-labour-shortage_n_4138487.html Our population would be stabilized with immigration at only 100,000 http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/91-003-x/2007001/figures/4129879-eng.htm Canada would have to take in 2.6 million immigrants a year by 2020 and seven million by 2050 — raising its population to 165.4-million — if it wants to keep its ratio of retirees-toworkers at its current 20%, according to a study from the C.D. Howe Institute. http://www.pressreader.com/canada/national-post-latest-edition/20060927/282389804967681

1 - Screw you, I am not left or right. I find idiots on both sides of this spectrum while I am in the middle having to put up with the idiotic rhetoric on BOTH sides. Sure they are responsible for their actions. HOWEVER... if I provoke you into doing something, in your view I would be absolved of all responsibility because I was not the one doing the attack. 2 - Our foreign policy via the avenue of Turkey has been direct evidence of the West's complicity in supporting terrorism against Assad and Syria. Remember the FSA was housed out of Turkey and trained by US special forces. That's not disputed. I've proved that before in those other Syria threads. Who's making stuff up now? 3 - As I said, no where did I support Russia or Putin. I did not want to have to tell you people again, but I keep having to clarify my stance. However I look at it like the way the US made the Soviet Union spend lots of money upgrading their military knowing in the end they'd never be able to pay for it. One of the main reasons the Soviet Union collapsed. The Soviets spent themselves to death. I see a similar action here. Getting Russia to spend itself into oblivion. 4 No where am I blaming the West for ALL of Russia's aggressiveness. I made my views clear regarding Crimea and the Ukraine. I did not support that either. Things like BRICS and Gadaffi's Gold Dinar, and Iraq's attempt to move off the petrodollar is the main reason these nations are being thrown to the ground. Syria was most likely going to do their trading in a new currency other than the petrodollar. When no one needs the petrodollar the US implodes.

We stand a better chance of training a Canadian who has gone through our education system than someone from the third world who has not, and has an imperfect grasp of English.

I don't know. In English, people used to use female pronouns on animals, so I entitled the chipmunk Mrs. to match the pronouns. This is another example of "not taking something seriously". If this chipmunk was the Mouse King in the Nutcracker story and capable to shrink me into a toy sized figure when I was sleeping, I would definitely take the matter seriously and find out what gender it was before calling it King Chipmunk or Queen Chipmunk.

The problem of finding longitude for navigators was taken on and solved by the British. While they weren't the sole inventors of the system, it was British mathematicians who took the method of using the angles between celestial bodies (called lunars) and produced the tables which made them usable by navigators to establish longitude, instead of having to do several hours of advanced math to come up with a position. It was British clock makers who produced the first reliable chronometers that could be carried aboard ships and used to determine the difference between time at a fixed point on earth and local time to establish an even more accurate calculation of longitude. It's no wonder that Greenwich was chosen as the fixed point through which the 0 meridian passed. Some people might call that colonialism, I would call it science.

It seems that people have a short term memory when it comes to some of the events and how they tie into each other. All while ranting that I have no idea wtf I am talking about. Rue, Dog, did you two put up a fuss when Iraq attacked Iran with chemical and conventional weapons? No? Why the hell not? Hell you SHOULD be pissed that your own governments are complicit in with handing them those weapons in the first place. Did you two put up a fuss about how the US and their BFF Islamic dictatorship Saudi Arabia helped fund the Jihad in Afghanistan against the Soviets? Oh right, forget that those actions long ago are still causing pain. Evolved from the Muhajedeen, to Al-Qaeda, To ISIS and various other offshoots of stupid radical Muslims. Connect the dots for once. It's not that damn hard. I may be stupid and dumb but I am no Forrest Gump. NOW we have seen the rebels (aka terrorists by TRUE definition of the word) admittedly without a doubt that the US and NATO, yet again are supporting terrorism in other sovereign nations. All this complaining about Russia hacking the elections really shows hypocritical this all really is compared to directly supporting terrorism on another nation that is not considered 'friendly', but had yet to directly attack the US. While their own Bin Laden did. Total facepalm. This whole thing about Assad using the chemical weapons on his own people does NOT make any sense at all. Assad had absolutely nothing to gain by using chemical weapons on his own people. The other problem is now, it's hard to go in and verify what took place via independent entities. The US bombed the crap out of that same town this chemical weapons attack took place. That also seems counter productive in order to gain proper evidence against Assad. None of the rhetoric put forth makes sense at all. Again I called it and told you all Trump will eventually be told what to do. He's not the real power in the US. Obama proved that, and so did Bush. Now he's risking something even bigger by blowing 300 mill on missiles that went into the town of the attack and around one airbase. However, my response might have been harsher if I was presented with irrefutable proof that Assad ordered this attack. NATO is right on Russia's doorstep with deploying a very large number of anti-missile batteries in nations that once were part of the Soviet Union behind the Iron Curtain. All this garbage is not about Assad or Syria. The war in Syria has never been a civil war by any definition, it is again another proxy war between bigger powers. The US is also moving a lot in the South China Sea. Something is up, and someone has an itchy trigger finger. Do you believe the lies or argue for them just for the sake of argument? That seems to be counter productive as well. Again, so as to not confuse any of you, I do not support Russia or Assad either. Hell I can't even support the pretty boy Trudeau. Total lapdog. I had faith in Trump, but I knew he'd eventually find out who really runs the show. Even with all his money and power, he did not seem to be one of them. Or he has been one of them all along, and yet again, we've been collectively duped. And I do not support any kind of terrorism no matter the brand. I don't want to have to tell you again.

A phyrrhic victory as evidenced by the present conflagration. I'm a lot less glad about why and would be much happier if both sides would just blow each other to kingdom come.

I suspect most of the other terrorists we're engaged with feel exactly the same way for much the same reason.

Sure, as if you misunderstood me... I entirely disagree with our killing people in the name of our and our allies foreign policies, mostly in the ME and surrounding region. I don't want to die as a result of blowback from these and if anyone from my family is killed I'll be holding Canada and our allies every bit as responsible as the killer. To me the deliberately vague position you have toward our foreign policies resembles Justin Trudeau's which is probably one of the leading causes behind the perpetuity of the endless conflict we're mired in. The fog of conflict is just a little too deliberate. I don't think our armed forces are capable of doing anything whatsoever to protect us from what's happening - especially when they're part of what's endangering us in the first place.

Not in evidence. I've condemned countries from Russia to South Africa to North Korea to China, Iran and Saudi Arabia and Serbia. Even complained about Israel a time or two. How come none of the 'anti zionist' crowd ever does that if it's human rights that concern them?

The brutal regime would be Hamas, right? Or the PLO? They're both brutal regimes, more brutal than the Israelis.

There is certainly nothing to discuss if everyone is on ignore.

As usual its impossible to even understand what you are talking about. I didnt call Argus any names, I said his assertion was logical fallacy, and thats exact what it is. The rest of your is just gibberish.

Well at least you provided some proof this time to back up your assertions. All that were found were small quantities of chemical weapons that were way past their effective use date. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/mar/26/usa.iraq Remember Powell had come clean in the years after indicating he was pressured into putting forth the false narrative of the 'immediate WMD threat' that Iraq supposed to have had. They relied on terrible 'intelligence' that brought them to war.

No your words show you deflect from the subject matter of the thread to question Israel's right to exist and subjectively call it names. In fact your comments evidence direc deflection from the subject matter and that this deflection was initiated by you and how in fact you now proclaim in your words since you feel the subject matter is not real, you can change the subject. Your indirect accusation of Argus being dishonest when you accuse him of the very thing you do speaks loudly and shows why your words have zero credibility.

Oh look more name calling because Dre has nothing to present as a position. Hey who saw that coming-who Dre name call because he has nothing o contribute to the actual thread topic? Hey now, when in doubt insult Argus. Lol. Let's re-cap for Dre shall we. Oh Dre, Marcus came on this board and refuses to discuss the subject matter of the thread and instead uses it as a pretext to question Israel for existing. The words are there for all to see. If you want to pretend they don't exist knock yourself out. There is no fallacy to pointing that out and challenging the selectivity of the entity Marcus attacks. I again repeat Marcus's words and the thread subject matter are there for all to see and so in his litany of recycled piss on Israel posts is his selective outrage, Now let us address directly your drivel. A "fallacy" is necessarily a mistaken belief. Neither Argus nor I can be mistaken about what Marcus wrote. Its there for all to see. More to the point, in in fact our belief he is subjective about who he finds offence with and how he refuses to discuss the subject thread is is mistaken which is impossible as his very words prove and evidence those conclusions...even if we were to take some magic mushroom or LSD with you and suspend reality and enter your Alice In Wonderland world, even there in that world, the Mad Hatter would point out your assumption that the basis of or mistake was logical would make no sense. If it was logical it would not be mistaken it would he accurate and therefore true. What you were probably trying to say was that either Argus or I engaged in faulty reasoning or faulty logic, which yout hen believe makes our comments invalid. Faulty logic, or faulty reasoning as you are in fact accusing him of, would not be logical. More to the point, if anything your assumption your subjective projections as to what is sound or unsound is illogical. and that is because you have shown your subjective opinions expressed as name calling are not based on logic, in fact they are not based on anything. They have the substance of a fart not the excrement they would probably be based on if you produced that excrement or should I say basis for your fart or should I say pronouncement. Let's also clear something else up because you sure as hell are painful in your ability to even criticize, Argus has not appealed to worse problems not as he suggested Marcus's words are crap because there are more important problems in the world, you and he infer that. He's never suggested that are mounted that as an argument so even if you would try argue he in fact made a formal or informal fallacy you would be wrong, yet again. Let's repeat it one more time. Marcus came on this board and refuses to discuss the subject matter of the thread and instead uses it as a pretext to question Israel for existing and both Argus and I challenged him on that and his laughable double standard when discussing moral outrage. You words cheer lead Marcus. Look either start a thread urinating on Israel or move on and complain about Trump or Jews in another thread. Buh bye now.

No the red herring was the "large active chemical weapon manufacturing" capability that Iraq was accused of having prior to the invasion. And nobody said "no WMD's were ever found". Some of stuff WAS found... it was inventoried and destroyed. But it was insignificant when compared to the claims made prior to the war. Christ... even Bush admitted he was wrong. Funny that you guys still stick to this revisionist history.

This is all just logical fallacy. Selective outrage is something you are just as guilty of as anyone else.

When wasn't the Palestinian Cause run by a psychotic group?

I have just taken my time to explain to you why I haven't suddenly stopped supporting the plight of the Palestinians against the brutal regime that has been occupying them for over 70 years, just because of a psychotic group in the past few years. I don't have time for your blank shots of accusations and your attempt to distract the conversation from the real picture. You either have very little knowledge of what's happening there, by your latest "what about.." and the false parallel you are trying to draw, or you are purposely being dishonest. I think it's a combination of both.

You only care about human rights violations by Israel, but not human rights violations by Palestinians against Palestinians. And they are egregious. Both Hamas and the PLO torture prisoners and engage in extra-judicial murder. Hamas is explicitly antisemitic and wishes not a two state solution but the extermination of Jews throughout the world. It deliberately places its rockets and other military installations near schools and hospitals and other civilian areas in hopes that any Israeli retaliation will produce a civilian death toll they can then brandish as justification - and to entice stupid westerners to wring their hands and condemn Israel. Just how do you expect Israel to deal with such a death cult like this?

Sure we did, we just gave it all to corporations is all. They're people too, or so I've been told.

Canadian immigrants have a higher unemployment rate than Canadian born. American immigrants have a lower unemployment rate than American born. The difference? To qualify under the American skilled immigrant program you need to have a valid job offer. Not so in Canada.

Every one is born with the sinful, fallen nature, you and me included. Not sure if you read the article about the title. The Enlightenment has become the liberal-leftist ideology. Atheism is dragging the west down. It is threatening civilization. You need to examine it to see if there is any truth to the claim. It makes sense to me. Canada was built on the Judeo-Christian culture in the past 500 years but in the last 100 years has shifted so that those in power and media actually oppose the things that built our civilization. Trudeau worships at the alter of "diversity". He talks as if that is the be all and end all. His concept of diversity is to shove Judeo-Christian culture to the background and embrace anything but traditional western religion and idea. He is bringing in masses of people who oppose it so we end up with something that threatens our civilization as we know it. We can see what is happening to Europe. You might like to poke fun at the idea. But it would be better if you would look seriously at the situation. It is individuals and ideas that make a country or threaten it.

I think your Americans don't take Canada very seriously because Canada doesn't have nuke to blast Uncle Sam's ass like DPRK

Your use of this thread to attack Israel's right to exist is again manifested. The m.o. of these threads starting with one subject and then switching gear to try question the right of Israel to exist is loud and its blatant. The issue was about some mentally ill person being arrested in Israel for making death threats. You have chosen to use it to launch into an anti Zionist tirade which Argus responded to. It was in fact you who chose to initiate the comparison in the first place-but hey you actually take responsibility for your role on this thread or any other and admit what your agenda is? Tell me other than question Israel's right to exist what do you write on this forum? What do your latest words have to do with the topic?

Compared to what's happening in Syria, in Iraq and Yemen, in South Sudan, in North Korea, in Mali and Nigeria and other places - it IS the equivalent of hungry cats. When have you EVER required the slightest evidence, let alone proof, to point fingers at Israel? Were you snickering when you wrote that? Given your incredibly one-sided expositions about Israel, which have been so one-sided they could have been written by the UN's human rights council, you are really in no position to make such an allegation against anyone at all. Horrific? There are death camps in North Korea. Syria is gassing children. South Sudan is using starvation as a weapon. ISIS are taking children as sex slaves, buying and selling them on slave markets. Horrific? Has Israel established a slave trading system? Does Israel behead opposition figures like Saudi Arabia does, or hang them the way Iran does? Horrific? Let me explain the moral bankruptcy of your position. Even the UN, as one-sided as they are, have stated that Hamas uses children as human shields. Now think about that for a moment. They are using their own civilians as human shields because they know the hated Jews, who they say are descended from pigs and monkeys, will hesitate to kill them. Can you imagine the IDF herding Jewish kids out in front of them in hopes this would prevent Hamas from opening fire? The idea is laughable. Hamas would be delighted to kill Jewish kids, as they've demonstrated often enough in the past. So Hamas is itself showing that Israel is on a higher moral plateau than they are themselves. During the last dustup between them, it was pointed out by you and yours how one-sided the casualties are, as if this was a demonstration of Israel's evil. But one of the reasons the casualties were one-sided is because Israel has taken great pains to shield its civilians, to build bomb shelters for them, while Hamas has actually located itself AMONG its civilians in order to increase the death toll so people like you would get more indignant about how one sided it was. So who is on the higher moral plateau there? *I believe it was Sam Harris I heard pointing this out but could be wrong.

Maybe there's a Nobel Spend Prize?

I don't think it started with Clinton... Men have been treating women like shit for thousands of years, and religion has historically supported the idea that women are worth less. The more secular society becomes the better women are treated. Stories like this might make it seem like all hell is breaking loose, but just a short time ago women could not even testify against their husbands in court. There are still people alive today that lived in a world where women could not vote. Women are much better off in societies that are less religious. Billo is just a loser... no matter what happens in society there will always be some of them.

Well, I did give her one when she said all Israeli children were future murderers and criminals......