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What Happens When a Liberal Watches FOS LIES
User replied to robosmith's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
We have seen what happens to you, and it isn't good. -
The Notre Dame Cathedral, a monument of the Dark Ages
blackbird replied to blackbird's topic in Religion & Politics
No it doesn't continue to another book. The truth is anything I say on here you automatically reject it as if you are pre-programmed to reject it. Could be that Romanist spirit you have, that automatically rejects anything not approved by the RC catechism or Rome. Would you admit that is the case? -
The Notre Dame Cathedral, a monument of the Dark Ages
User replied to blackbird's topic in Religion & Politics
"Obviously you are not going to be convinced by my posting a few sentences." I'm not asking to be convinced. I'm asking you to support the claims you're making. "You should do some reading yourself." I've read arguments from both sides. Telling me to read another book doesn't answer the questions I asked about the two textual variants you raised. "I can't quote the books on here." I'm not asking you to quote a book. I'm asking you to explain why you believe Vaticanus and Sinaiticus are corrupt. "I don't know if God has ordained you to know the answer." Whether God has ordained someone to salvation has nothing to do with whether a manuscript reading is original. That's a different discussion. "It helps to come with a humble spirit and study His Word." I agree. Humility also means being willing to support our claims when they're challenged. I've repeatedly asked for the textual evidence that these manuscripts are demonstrably corrupt. The answer continues to be another book, another website, or now an appeal to election, rather than the evidence itself. -
I am not interested in your crying about someone else's behavior. You are one of the worst people on this forum. If/when you start caring about behavior, start with yourself, then I will jump in to defend you.
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The Notre Dame Cathedral, a monument of the Dark Ages
blackbird replied to blackbird's topic in Religion & Politics
You've explained why you believe the KJV reading is theologically stronger. You have not demonstrated that it is textually original. Those are different questions. "A vast number of manuscripts use the word God and only a few... have the word he." That's the Majority Text argument. It is not proof that the minority reading is corrupt. Critical Text scholars argue that an earlier reading preserved in fewer manuscripts can still be original if later scribes expanded or clarified the wording during transmission. You may disagree with that conclusion, but that is the debate. "There was no excuse to change it." That assumes the conclusion. Critical Text scholars would say they didn't change the text. They believe they are restoring an earlier reading based on the manuscript evidence. You haven't demonstrated that their conclusion is wrong, only that you disagree with it. "This makes it far more difficult to convince a JW that Jesus is God." Whether a reading is more useful in defending a doctrine has no bearing on whether it is the original reading. Theological usefulness is not evidence of textual originality. "Acts 8:37... Modern versions leave this verse out." Again, you've explained why you believe the verse is doctrinally important. You have not demonstrated that Luke originally wrote it. Critical Text scholars omit it because they argue it was added later as a baptismal confession and is absent from many of the earliest Greek manuscripts. You may reject that conclusion, but that is a textual argument, not evidence of corruption. The discussion isn't whether these variants exist. The discussion is whether your preferred readings are demonstrably original and the alternative readings demonstrably corrupt. So far you've argued why you prefer the KJV readings, but you haven't demonstrated that the competing readings are corrupt rather than simply different conclusions reached through a different textual methodology. Obviously you are not going to be convinced by my posting a few sentences. You say you require proof that the Majority or Byzantine manuscripts are the true manuscripts rather than the co-called Critical text based on a few Alexandrian manuscripts. I won't waste a whole lot of time on a useless exercise trying to convince someone who doesn't listen or accept anything I say. So if you seriously want to know the answer to that question, you should do some reading yourself. As I said there are two good books that go into the source of the manuscripts. New Age Bible Versions by G. Riplinger and Final Authority by William Grady. Both are available as used books, often in near new condition from Thrift Books website. I can't quote the books on here although if I find a part in them I do quote them from time to time. If you want to know, you will have to make an effort yourself. I don't know if God has ordained you to know the answer. It is God's sovereign will for someone to know his truth and also God's sovereign choice to elect people to salvation. Read Romans chapter 9. Man cannot save himself. It is, a gift of God by grace through faith, not of works. Ephesians 2:8, 9 KJV. It helps to come with a humble spirit and study his Word. -
Sure. You argued we avoid engaging ourselves and just fall back on experts. I took that to mean we don't use our own senses or knowledge, the way Deluge said he does. So when I did he immediately followed with personal attacks and denial. You just sat there and said nothing while he blatantly refuted everything you just said and effectively called you a liar.
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But you're seeing what climate alarmists want you to see, and accepting their take on history. Those degenerates still have you running around like chicken little. Why am I calm as a warm summer breeze and you are frantically parroting globalist nonsense?
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SCOTUS: Birthright EO struck down
SpankyMcFarland replied to gatomontes99's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
None of that changes my point at all. -
Alberta Referendum & Pierre Trudeau
TreeBeard replied to August1991's topic in Provincial Politics in Canada
If conservatives support randomly stopping people to search them then they are also willing to give powers to the authorities beyond what the constitution grants. -
Public health programs are a victim of their own success. We naturally tend to forget the catastrophic effects of the great pandemics of the past. Yes, mistakes were made with Covid that turned not to be as dangerous to young people as initially feared but something worse is coming, that we can be sure of.
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3 - ok. Why does “independent” mean voting for Conservative Party? 4 - maybe a social construct is more necessary when everyone is concentrated into one area?
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SCOTUS: Birthright EO struck down
Hodad replied to gatomontes99's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Yesterday you learned what a majority opinion was and how it is distinct from other opinions. Today you learned that the judicial branch does indeed make law--case law. Busy week! Now for hierarchy of laws. Constitutional law is the ultimate authority. Statutory law will never trump constitutional law, no matter how it's written. Who interprets the constitution? The judicial branch--in this case SCOTUS is the ultimate authority. 5 Justices signed a majority opinion endorsing the plain and accurate reading of the 14th amendment. That has the force of law and constrains the other branches of government. No statutory law can undo that determination. Therefore no real path forward for ending birthright citizenship other than a constitutional amendment. -
After you encouraged me to use my eyes and knowledge of history just like you? No surprise there.
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He can't because his outrage over our noncompliance has him confused and disoriented. eyeballs would rather point fingers than defend his pseudoscience.
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Then feel free to actually respond to something I said instead of making crap up.
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No, I can only point out where you didn't...so far anyway.
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So… can you show me where I did that? Or nah?
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No, please look up - you all need to pull your heads out of each other's asses. I use personal attacks because you encourage it. Try being honest for once - you'd be surprised over how civil I really am.
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eyeball started following Now, it all makes sense. Pride/Hitler Flag
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Now, it all makes sense. Pride/Hitler Flag
eyeball replied to gatomontes99's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
No, it's why Craig Ladyman wants people to vote for him. ROCKFORD, Mi. – A candidate for a seat on the Rockford, Michigan school board in this town of approximately 6,000, located ten miles north of Grand Rapids, went onto far-right social media platform Truth Social founded by former President Trump and shared a graphic collage of the Progress Pride flag converted into a Nazi-style swastika.“Like my new Pride flag?” candidate Craig Ladyman captioned the now-deleted post. Craig Ladyman? LMAO! -
Of course I believe it. You think humans control the weather, don't you. lol
