benny Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 (edited) ohh, Benny wants to be a psychoanalyst.... but he's right; Canada should jump at this chance. A good country should be able to transmit its culture. The best method to achieve that is to use the psychoanalytic transference. Edited May 1, 2009 by benny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 A good country should be able to transmit its culture. The best method to achieve that is to use the psychoanalytic transference. I would like to psychoanalyze whether your derangement is organic or the result of a dysfunctional upbringing. Spell out on here what you'd tell your therapist at the Clarke Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestViking Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Osama bin Laden is a member of the prominent Saudi bin Laden family. Bin Laden has consistently dwelt on the need for violent jihad to right what he believes are injustices against Muslims perpetrated by the United States. Bin Laden is a little selective in his "justice" - he does not seem to feel the Palestinians are owed a share of the oil wealth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Bin Laden is a little selective in his "justice" - he does not seem to feel the Palestinians are owed a share of the oil wealth. There you go! Terrorism will disappear only after exchanging our respective views about what distributive justice requires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radsickle Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Although we've got our share of freaks, torturing a 15 year old is not part of Canada's culture. It wasn't part of America's either, until Bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 But questioning the values of our fathers is a form of (mental) torture that is too much underestimated by their sons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Although we've got our share of freaks, torturing a 15 year old is not part of Canada's culture. It wasn't part of America's either, until Bush. When a 15 year old decides to "fight" the U.S. out of uniform, and is connected to other out-of-uniform "fighters" what should we do, just sit there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radsickle Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 When a 15 year old decides to "fight" the U.S. out of uniform, and is connected to other out-of-uniform "fighters" what should we do, just sit there? Get real. He was being babysat by his Dad's buddies. They were told to `look after him'. They came under surprise attack by the American soldiers. He happened to be there. I guess they forgot to put on their uniforms before returning fire, eh? And there are clauses in the Geneva Conventions for out-of-uniform `fighters'. The French Resistance didn't have any friggin' uniforms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radsickle Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 But questioning the values of our fathers is a form of (mental) torture that is too much underestimated by their sons. Questioning authority at all seems to be a vanishing virtue in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Get real. He was being babysat by his Dad's buddies. They were told to `look after him'. They came under surprise attack by the American soldiers. He happened to be there. I guess they forgot to put on their uniforms before returning fire, eh?And there are clauses in the Geneva Conventions for out-of-uniform `fighters'. The French Resistance didn't have any friggin' uniforms. And they were routinely and legally hung. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radsickle Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 And they were routinely and legally hung. Not the kids.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Not the kids.... Noi they were shot. Do you have a point? One that you are capable of articulating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Not the kids.... There were lots of 15 year old soliders in the American Revolutionary War. The Canadianis British forces fighting them didn't hold fire on account of their age. And what kind of "babysitter" puts their charges in harm's way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Noi they were shot. Do you have a point? One that you are capable of articulating?Need you ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Oleg, you know it was Omar's Dad who was Canada's problem. Let's not blame the child for his Dad's mistakes.(Thanks for trying to get back on topic though) I have empathy for the now young man - It was the propagated American terror buisness that enflamed this thing out of proportion...as far as calling the fathers actions "mistakes" - I would rather call a prolonged series of poor and fanatical decisions. Still it is unrealistic to follow through and parrot the mindset and questionable agenda of the former American administration - Cheney and Bush for the most part are gone! A fresh and civil approach must be taken. Injustice seems to be the root of terrorism more so than ideology. BUT rage and instituted anger are still out of control...that's the problem...we can not have a prolonged war on terror - the problem has to be fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafless Posted May 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Although we've got our share of freaks, torturing a 15 year old is not part of Canada's culture. It wasn't part of America's either, until Bush. How was murderer Khadr tortured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Questioning authority at all seems to be a vanishing virtue in this country. Also questioning the founding fathers seems to terrorize our very patriotic American neighbors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 The fact that so many Canadians are sympathetic to Omar Khadr makes me ashamed.The fact is,Omar and his whole family despise this country and everything about it,although they enjoyed the use of our health care system.This is political correctness gone beserk.Reuniting Khadr with his family makes no sense whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 The fact that so many Canadians are sympathetic to Omar Khadr makes me ashamed.The fact is,Omar and his whole family despise this country and everything about it,although they enjoyed the use of our health care system.This is political correctness gone beserk.Reuniting Khadr with his family makes no sense whatsoever. You have to remember that the kid - was the last survivor of the attack on the compound - and he would naturally assume that...the forces entering the bombed building were going to finish him off - besides - we and the Americans have no real legitimate buisness in Iraq or Afghanistan .... the former American administration should have invaded the facilitators of terror - Pakistan and Saudi Arabia - instead they went for the soft peasant targets and not for the money men or idealogs that made this all happen...Khadr is an non- issue and this case has always been used by extreme right wing nut bars to emotionalize the Canadian mind into stupidy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 The fact that so many Canadians are sympathetic to Omar Khadr makes me ashamed.The fact is,Omar and his whole family despise this country and everything about it,although they enjoyed the use of our health care system.This is political correctness gone beserk.Reuniting Khadr with his family makes no sense whatsoever. Only ironstone hearts cannot convert after a bit more exposure to Canadian good will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Only ironstone hearts cannot convert after a bit more exposure to Canadian good will. Has exposure to Canadian good will done anything to change the Khadrs? -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Has exposure to Canadian good will done anything to change the Khadrs? -k A bit more will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 A bit more will. Mama Khadr has been a Canadian since the 1970s. This country provided medical care for her sick baby, and for the son who was crippled while fighting in another country. This country got her husband freed from Pakistani custody. That seems like quite a bit of good will. Yet what's her view of Canadians? Homosexuals and drug addicts. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Mama Khadr has been a Canadian since the 1970s. This country provided medical care for her sick baby, and for the son who was crippled while fighting in another country. This country got her husband freed from Pakistani custody.That seems like quite a bit of good will. Yet what's her view of Canadians? Homosexuals and drug addicts. -k A bit more will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noahbody Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 How was murderer Khadr tortured? The definition of the word torture has been warped to include anything less than 5 star accommodation. It's a lot like changing the definition of spanking to child abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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