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Carney faces ethics probe over Vancouver condo bailout questions

Prime Minister Mark Carney is facing a parliamentary ethics probe after Conservatives raised concerns that he could personally benefit from a proposed taxpayer-backed program aimed at purchasing unsold condominium units in British Columbia.

Well, Trudeau had his first major corruption scandal after 4 months, carney's lasted a year without a major one. So I guess from the liberals point of view he's a little slow but still acceptable

I will now Await the flood of liberals who will rush to defend this and explain why it's a really great thing and besides it's all harper's fault

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Ha HA HA...facing an ethics probe ?

Because PP is asking for one???

The LOSER has spoken...wrong again LOL LOL LOL

You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.

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44 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Ha HA HA...facing an ethics probe ?

Because PP is asking for one???

The LOSER has spoken...wrong again LOL LOL LOL

Right on cue, predictability shines.

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1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Ha HA HA...facing an ethics probe ?

 

 

 

Yes, facing an ethics probe. Congratulations, you've worked yourself all the way up to the intelligence level of a parrot :) 

 

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Because PP is asking for one???

No because the ethics committee has determined that there is enough evidence to pursue the matter further. The committee does not begin investigations just because they were asked to, they receive a complaint and they determine whether or not there's enough viability to consider proceedin

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The LOSER has spoken...wrong again LOL LOL LOL

Yes you were, but we're pretty used to you being wrong :) 

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9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I will now Await the flood of liberals who will rush to defend this and explain why it's a really great thing and besides it's all harper's fault

 

59 minutes ago, Legato said:

Right on cue, predictability shines.

Yup :) LOLOL

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Chronology:

Condo developers support Mayor Robertson.

Mayor then runs for parliament & becomes housing minister for PM.

Condo developers raise money for PM.

Condo developers gonna lose millions.

Condo developers bailed out by Carney.

 

Eby Briefed for Meeting With Vancouver 'Condo King' as Rennie Raised Money for Carney — Four Months Before Multi-Billion-Dollar Condo Bailout

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1 hour ago, Goddess said:

Chronology:

Condo developers support Mayor Robertson.

Mayor then runs for parliament & becomes housing minister for PM.

Condo developers raise money for PM.

Condo developers gonna lose millions.

Condo developers bailed out by Carney.

 

Eby Briefed for Meeting With Vancouver 'Condo King' as Rennie Raised Money for Carney — Four Months Before Multi-Billion-Dollar Condo Bailout

And it turns out that Brooksfield owned companies would have benefited substantially from the bailout. And there's question as to whether or not the pm properly excused himself from these deliberations as required

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Prediction: "RCMP not allowed to investigate. CBC says "Meh" to everything. Carney gets to give the final version of the story to CBC and they will never talk about it again". 

 

I win. 

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8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Prediction: "RCMP not allowed to investigate. CBC says "Meh" to everything. Carney gets to give the final version of the story to CBC and they will never talk about it again". 

 

I win. 

Why it's almost like you were paying attention during 10 years Of Trudeau  :) 

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In 2015, Poilievre was Housing Minster in Harpers government, which allowed 800,000 affordable rental units to be sold off to corporate landlords and developers.

In 2026 Poilievre slams Federal-BC plan to buy vacant condos, calling it a 'bail-out' for developers.

Under Harper's conservatives, the average home price in Canada went up +67% (compared to +62% during Trudeau's term), who refused to do anything about it.  Poilievre voted against initiatives to make housing affordable in 2006, 2009, 2010, 2013 and 2014 when Conservatives were in power; and again in 2018 and 2019 as a member of the official opposition.

He must be conflicted now considering his top donors are real estate investors.

That's our boy Poilievre....  a useless mouthpiece....utterly useless.

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2 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

In 2015, Poilievre was Housing Minster in Harpers government, which allowed 800,000 affordable rental units to be sold off to corporate landlords and developers.

 

 

You mean he allowed people that own property to sell their property.

Every liberal government before and after has done the exact same thing.

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In 2026 Poilievre slams Federal-BC plan to buy vacant condos, calling it a 'bail-out' for developers.

It is a bailout for Developers. They will make money and go away happy instead of selling their homes at a discount and driving prices down which would happen in a normal market environment. They took the profits when prices were going up, why shouldn't they accept the losses now that prices are going down

 

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Under Harper's conservatives, the average home price in Canada went up +67% (compared to +62% during Trudeau's term), who refused to do anything about it.  

He did quite a bit about it. And once again you're lying.

Further at the beginning of harper's houses were seriously undervalued having come through the 90s with very very poor growth. But housing was still affordable even if it was expensive at the end of harper's term. Justin got in in 2015 saying he would fix the problem and make sure that housing stayed affordable because at that point it was just barely affordable. THEN he drove it up 62 percent. 

Poilievre voted against initiatives to make housing affordable in 2006, 2009, 2010, 2013 and 2014 when Conservatives were in power; and again in 2018 and 2019 as a member of the official opposition.

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He must be conflicted now considering his top donors are real estate investors.

Actually all of the top real estate developers are supporting the liberals. That's part of the ethics scandal is beginning to unfold

Carney is bailing out real estate developers that paid a lot of donations to the liberals and who are friends with carney personally and many of the people that will benefit work for Brooksfield subsidieres. So Brooksfield will benefit substantially.

This is just corruption plain and simple. There's no justification for this bailout, it hurts the population, and it doesn't incentivize these developers to go out and build new homes they're just going to take their cash and walk

The poorest people will be the ones that are hurt the most and you're sitting here clapping for it

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1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

You mean he allowed people that own property to sell their property.

Every liberal government before and after has done the exact same thing.

It is a bailout for Developers. They will make money and go away happy instead of selling their homes at a discount and driving prices down which would happen in a normal market environment. They took the profits when prices were going up, why shouldn't they accept the losses now that prices are going down

 

He did quite a bit about it. And once again you're lying.

Further at the beginning of harper's houses were seriously undervalued having come through the 90s with very very poor growth. But housing was still affordable even if it was expensive at the end of harper's term. Justin got in in 2015 saying he would fix the problem and make sure that housing stayed affordable because at that point it was just barely affordable. THEN he drove it up 62 percent. 

Poilievre voted against initiatives to make housing affordable in 2006, 2009, 2010, 2013 and 2014 when Conservatives were in power; and again in 2018 and 2019 as a member of the official opposition.

Actually all of the top real estate developers are supporting the liberals. That's part of the ethics scandal is beginning to unfold

Carney is bailing out real estate developers that paid a lot of donations to the liberals and who are friends with carney personally and many of the people that will benefit work for Brooksfield subsidieres. So Brooksfield will benefit substantially.

This is just corruption plain and simple. There's no justification for this bailout, it hurts the population, and it doesn't incentivize these developers to go out and build new homes they're just going to take their cash and walk

The poorest people will be the ones that are hurt the most and you're sitting here clapping for it

No, I mean he sold affordable rental housing units to landlords and developers so they could profit.  Also hard to escape the fact that the average housing cost increased more during Harper's term than it did in Trudeau's.

Facts are facts...

Harper was by and large a failure, and the little mouthpiece who is party leader today is an utter embarrassment and proven failure.

 

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18 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

No, I mean he sold affordable rental housing units to landlords and developers so they could profit.  

Whats wrong with "landlords"? 

Who buys real estate to lose money?

I feel like you're just whining and you don't have a point to make.

The Feds are just giving taxpayer money away to developers right now, they're not merely "allowing capitalism to occur 😱".  

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Also hard to escape the fact that the average housing cost increased more during Harper's term than it did in Trudeau's.

Still, unaffordability increased by more under Trudeau.

That's a far more important metric.

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Facts are facts...

Yeah. Sorry, not sorry.

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Harper was by and large a failure,

OMFG, dummy.

Canada was a top 5 place in the world to live and visit under Harper. What are we now, 35th?

2014 was the peak of our civilization here. 

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and the little mouthpiece who is party leader today is an utter embarrassment and proven failure.

That's some powerful glue that you're sniffing there. You could attach Jupiter to the Sun with that shiznit. 

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1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

In 2015, Poilievre was Housing Minster in Harpers government, which allowed 800,000 affordable rental units to be sold off to corporate landlords and developers.

In 2026 Poilievre slams Federal-BC plan to buy vacant condos, calling it a 'bail-out' for developers.

Under Harper's conservatives, the average home price in Canada went up +67% (compared to +62% during Trudeau's term), who refused to do anything about it.  Poilievre voted against initiatives to make housing affordable in 2006, 2009, 2010, 2013 and 2014 when Conservatives were in power; and again in 2018 and 2019 as a member of the official opposition.

He must be conflicted now considering his top donors are real estate investors.

That's our boy Poilievre....  a useless mouthpiece....utterly useless.

 

 

My question would be did the harper government use tax payers money to sell off thesed affordable rental units, was anyone bailed out....

If it is not a bail out what is it....using taxpayers money to purchase condos at inflated prices then turn them into affordable housing....is a bail out for contractors and bankers bad decisions, how is any of this a good idea...

Ya right, give us a quote for thoise prices because they don't match anything in NB, where housing has gone up well over 100 % in most areas...

Just another example of liberals helping out liberals...

https://www.pressreader.com/canada/times-transcript/20250410/281599541329542

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1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

No, I mean he sold affordable rental housing units to landlords and developers so they could profit.  

 

Ahhh! Well then you're just lying. At no point in time did harper or PP sell off 800 thousand low income housing units.  That is a simple lie. 

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Also hard to escape the fact that the average housing cost increased more during Harper's term than it did in Trudeau's.

Not hard in the slightest. Housing prices were below where they should have been when harper came in, harper turned the economy around and got things: And not surprisingly people started buying homes again. Prices went up. That's expected.

 

Let me use Simple Math that even you can understand. If you consider 100 to be the average normal price in a healthy market, and the price falls to $50 during the crutch end years, then climbs back up to 100,  That looks like a 100% increase. Sounds impressive but in reality you're making up for lost ground for the most part

However, if you start at 100 and then jump to 150, it only looks like a 50 percent increase but it's now WAAAY above what's affordable. 

I'm sure you can see the difference. Justin was the second one

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Facts are facts...

Not to you apparently  :) 

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Harper was by and large a failure,

Harper was a runaway success and even his opponents generally acknowledge this. He had one of the best economies and best responses to one of the greatest recessions since the 1930s. He did far better than most and his economic policies were groundbreaking at the time. Where other governments have to bail out Industries for the most part he actually found ways to keep the banks afloat while making Canadians money instead of costing them

Financially speaking harper was almost without a doubt the best prime minister we have ever had and this is why in poll after poll he tends to score in the top three often at the very top when people ask who was the best prime minister.

All you're doing is showing your political ignorance and partisanship when you make stupid statements like that. You can say what you like but the reality is canada did better financially under harper given the circumstances of the time that at any other time in history with any other prime minister in history. We barely felt the recession compared to most people

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1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

My question would be did the harper government use tax payers money to sell off thesed affordable rental units, was anyone bailed out....

If it is not a bail out what is it....using taxpayers money to purchase condos at inflated prices then turn them into affordable housing....is a bail out for contractors and bankers bad decisions, how is any of this a good idea...

Ya right, give us a quote for thoise prices because they don't match anything in NB, where housing has gone up well over 100 % in most areas...

Just another example of liberals helping out liberals...

https://www.pressreader.com/canada/times-transcript/20250410/281599541329542

How could taxpayer money be used to sell?  No, they sold affordable units to landlords and developers who profited from those purchases by taking those units off the market and seeing both rent and home prices further increase with lesser supply.

Personally, I think they should have stayed out of it and let the market price find it's own level without the governments assistance, but if they buy at cost or below it's a net positive for rent to own owners, and minimal risk to taxpayers with the mortgage being an asset, not a liability.

People in Metro Vancouver or populated areas of BC likely have little sympathy for your ~$375k - $400k average NB home price that has doubled in the last decade.  

How did Liberals help Liberals here?

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3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And it turns out that Brooksfield owned companies would have benefited substantially from the bailout. And there's question as to whether or not the pm properly excused himself from these deliberations as required

And where is "Mark Carney is facing a parliamentary ethics probe after Conservatives raised concerns ""

Except in your LOSER head??? LOL LOL LOL

You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.

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2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You mean he allowed people that own property to sell their property.

Every liberal government before and after has done the exact same thing.

No, I mean they sold affordable rental units to corporate landlords and developers so they could further profit.

When did any liberal government buy market affordable housing units to sell to corporations?

22 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Not hard in the slightest. Housing prices were below where they should have been when harper came in, harper turned the economy around and got things: And not surprisingly people started buying homes again. Prices went up. That's expected.

Yes, the average house priced increased almost 70% during Harper's term.  Funny enough it went up 62% during Trudeaus and people were still buying homes.  Go figure...

25 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Let me use Simple

That's all you have, and are... Simple

25 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Harper was a runaway success

Harper was a failure....  There is a reason the 2015 election was a beat down. 

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10 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

How could taxpayer money be used to sell?  

1) So what's your issue, if taxpayer money wasn't given to developers?

2) FYI it was the Liberals who caused the bubble that burst on these developers, dummy.

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No, they sold affordable units to landlords and developers who profited from those purchases by taking those units off the market and seeing both rent and home prices further increase with lesser supply.

  1. Units were sold for what the market would bear. That's capitalism, dumbfack.
  2. Are you really that comfortable in your socialist bubble that you're just going after capitalism now?
  3. I'll type this really slowly for you so that you can read it:  HOMES WERE MORE AFFORDABLE UNDER HARPER. RENTS WERE MORE AFFORDABLE UNDER HARPER. That comes from comparing the rise in rents/prices vs the rise in incomes. 
  4. The FAILURE AWARD of the last 20 years here in Canada goes directly to the LPoC, and it's not even close.
  5. The LPoC made homes and rents less affordable, and they gave taxpayer money to "developers" who you think are evil. It's like the trifecta of sucking, donkey.
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Personally, I think they should have stayed out of it and let the market price find it's own level without the governments assistance, but if they buy at cost or below it's a net positive for rent to own owners, and minimal risk to taxpayers with the mortgage being an asset, not a liability.

😂 That's just basic stupidity.

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People in Metro Vancouver or populated areas of BC likely have little sympathy for your ~$375k - $400k average NB home price that has doubled in the last decade.  

Prices have basically doubled every ten years in the lower mainland since 1950. 

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40 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Ahhh! Well then you're just lying. At no point in time did harper or PP sell off 800 thousand low income housing units.  That is a simple lie. 

Not hard in the slightest. Housing prices were below where they should have been when harper came in, harper turned the economy around and got things: And not surprisingly people started buying homes again. Prices went up. That's expected.

 

Let me use Simple Math that even you can understand. If you consider 100 to be the average normal price in a healthy market, and the price falls to $50 during the crutch end years, then climbs back up to 100,  That looks like a 100% increase. Sounds impressive but in reality you're making up for lost ground for the most part

However, if you start at 100 and then jump to 150, it only looks like a 50 percent increase but it's now WAAAY above what's affordable. 

I'm sure you can see the difference. Justin was the second one

Not to you apparently  :) 

Harper was a runaway success and even his opponents generally acknowledge this. He had one of the best economies and best responses to one of the greatest recessions since the 1930s. He did far better than most and his economic policies were groundbreaking at the time. Where other governments have to bail out Industries for the most part he actually found ways to keep the banks afloat while making Canadians money instead of costing them

Financially speaking harper was almost without a doubt the best prime minister we have ever had and this is why in poll after poll he tends to score in the top three often at the very top when people ask who was the best prime minister.

All you're doing is showing your political ignorance and partisanship when you make stupid statements like that. You can say what you like but the reality is canada did better financially under harper given the circumstances of the time that at any other time in history with any other prime minister in history. We barely felt the recession compared to most people

Facts are facts...  And by most measures, Harper was a failure.  When he left he had the worst average GDP growth of any previous PM, the worst average annual growth in employment, the second worst change in unemployment, the worst annual growth of goods and services exports, the second worst share of income going to the richest 1%, and the worst average annual growth in real GDP per capita. 

He was a failure....  If not for benefitting from high oil prices and low interest rate environments he wouldn't have lasted as long as he did,

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1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

How could taxpayer money be used to sell?  No, they sold affordable units to landlords and developers who profited from those purchases by taking those units off the market and seeing both rent and home prices further increase with lesser supply.

 

That never happened. That is a blatant lie. Show me the link that says that harper sold any low income housing whatsoever

 

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36 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Facts are facts...  

And lies are lies. You seem to prefer the second to the 1st

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And by most measures, Harper was a failure.

By almost every measure he was success

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When he left he had the worst average GDP growth of any previous PM

As we were recovering from the greatest recession in almost 100 years. Gosh :) And he did better than almost all of his peers

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, the worst average annual growth in employment, the second worst change in unemployment, the worst annual growth of goods and services exports, the second worst share of income going to the richest 1%, and the worst average annual growth in real GDP per capita. 

But better than most countries. Again we're talking about the greatest recession in almost a hundred years

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He was a failure....  If not for benefitting from high oil prices and low interest rate environments he wouldn't have lasted as long as he did,

He was a wild success and it drives the liberals absolutely nuts. The Canadian recovery was almost twice the pace of Obama's, it led the world in many cases, and our recession was not as deep as long as other countries.

It's hard to imagine a prime minister doing better than he did in those economic times

I know that this is you off. But as you say the facts are the facts and your lies are lies

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