Diversity Stress

[Army Guy]

7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Came back to review this thread... a lot of name-calling.

There's no easy political axiom on immigration - business wants it, and progressives like foreigners but conservatives want to protect 'old stock' Canadian prosperity and socialists decry when wages are cut...

The environmentalists are the only consistent ones: earth first, economy last.

All others play both sides of the foozeball table IMO.

This is the face of todays discourse....topic is brought up and within 2 paras it ends up being a name calling fest...and it is not just regular Canadians like who is on this forum, have you watched parliament in action and how our government discusses topics it is the same thing....

Environmentalist remind me of that religion that always is whipping themselves on the back to atone for past sins.......sacrifice everything for the greater cause which changes nothing, in the greater picture ....which is to enrich others environmentalist who are playing both sides of the game...while the common folks pay for it all...and suffer in silence...because no one is listening... 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Environmentalist remind me of that religion that always is whipping themselves on the back to atone for past sins.......sacrifice everything for the greater cause which changes nothing, in the greater picture ....which is to enrich others environmentalist who are playing both sides of the game...while the common folks pay for it all...and suffer in silence...because no one is listening... 

Why don't you just kill us all? You know you wanna.

OTOH, how about MAID and sacrificing everything to hopelessness? Is political angst an allowable reason? Should it be?

[Barquentine]

23 hours ago, Nationalist said:

hate and illegal immigrant spit.

You seem to prefer white hate and spit. It's what all your posts are about.

[John Johnston]

21 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

You seem to prefer white hate and spit. It's what all your posts are about.

People who have failed in life tend to be mired in hatred. 

[Nationalist]

29 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

You seem to prefer white hate and spit. It's what all your posts are about.

Lol...yes dear...

[Barquentine]

On 6/14/2026 at 5:46 PM, Michael Hardner said:

Also the birthrate ticks up, I believe, at the higher end of the wealth curve

Not if you take Elon Musk out of the equation! But seriously, that's an insignificant number.

Edited yesterday at 01:18 PM by Barquentine
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[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, John Johnston said:

People who have failed in life tend to be mired in hatred. 

Sounds like the voice of experience talking  

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...yes dear...

Well you're white and he hates you so...... I think he's asking you for a date?

[Army Guy]

21 hours ago, eyeball said:

Why don't you just kill us all? You know you wanna.

OTOH, how about MAID and sacrificing everything to hopelessness? Is political angst an allowable reason? Should it be?

OK.....i get it your off your meds....nobody wants to kill anyone, come out from under the bed your going to be all right...

[Moonlight Graham]

On 6/16/2026 at 7:19 PM, eyeball said:

Mostly because of the manner by which they eschew the more moderate less uncompromising nuanced views between them.

I said the right in the modern context you used to describe the left.

AFAIC however the Left-wing in the original French definition represented a proverbial great unwashed composed of more or less equal numbers of conservative and progressive people. IE people like you and me.

The Right-wing on the other hand represented a much smaller Ancien Regime of wealthy landowners and other influencers of the time. People not like you and me.

It's seems to be a fairly natural juxtaposition of the fundamental competing forces in most governed societies whether they're communist, capitalist or just about any other ism in the book. It's just the innies vs the outies and it's probably been this way since we climbed down from the trees.

To my way of thinking this a far more relevant social division - between those who govern and those who are governed - than something as blithe and trite as innies or outies would suggest.

In terms of simple human numbers only 6% of humans tell some 93% what to do. If and when push comes to shove the only real question for the vast majority of outies is who's side you're on.

That leaves the 1% - a Nouveau  Regime today that like the split and the side just like any other Ancien Regime was accustomed to.

Along with its influence and command over the innies the 1% has also gotten pretty good at influencing the outies but it was easy with a planet for the taking.

Now the waterhole is shrinking, and the animals are getting meaner.

I'm fascinated how the Flamingo Revolution in Albania is morphing and coalescing around a more encompassing sense that governments exist to favour the rich and powerful and it needs to stop.

This sense needs to spread. Wide and far.

Interesting side discussion.

In the US we've seen both their parties split into 2 factions  the old elitist establishment types and the populists. 

Unfortunately the Liberals aren't populists, they're the elite establishment.  And Pierre is a fake populist selling snake oil as usual.

[Michael Hardner]

11 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Unfortunately the Liberals aren't populists, they're the elite establishment.  

I thought you said there are populists on both sides ?  What's your take on what the Democrat populists look like ?

History note: Democrats owned populism 1932-1968 with a few exceptions who failed to win elections/relection ... one because he was an egg-head and the other because he was deceased.