Southern Poverty Law Center leaders charged with mult count indictments

[West]

16 minutes ago, robosmith said:

So if the KKK EC exposed illegal activities of HIS GROUP, he was actually working in the pursuit of JUSTICE. 

AKA NOT A CRIME. 

There's no evidence of this as the SPLC was not a LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. Rather they fundraised by paying people to hate black people. Sad

[West]

25 minutes ago, robosmith said:

So if the KKK EC exposed illegal activities of HIS GROUP, he was actually working in the pursuit of JUSTICE. 

AKA NOT A CRIME. 

They defrauded their donors by paying off racists while claiming to oppose it. Sad

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

I know.

They funded CAHN, which was doing the same damn things SPLC was doing.

You said they were planting evidence. SPLC is not indicted for planting evidence.

[robosmith]

53 minutes ago, West said:

There's no evidence of this as the SPLC was not a LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. Rather they fundraised by paying people to hate black people. Sad

Crimes are pursuing INJUSTICE. Citizens pursuing JUSTICE is NOT CRIMINAL.

[robosmith]

45 minutes ago, West said:

They defrauded their donors by paying off racists while claiming to oppose it. Sad

FAR FROM IT. They paid informants for their contribution to exposing RACISM.

There is always a calculation where the cooperation from a single person can bring down a WHOLE GROUP.

Simple minded people like yourself can't understand that equation. Just like you can't understand trans folk because it's based on gender which is mind, not sex organs which is NOT the mind.

[West]

15 minutes ago, robosmith said:

FAR FROM IT. They paid informants for their contribution to exposing RACISM.

There is always a calculation where the cooperation from a single person can bring down a WHOLE GROUP.

Simple minded people like yourself can't understand that equation. Just like you can't understand trans folk because it's based on gender which is mind, not sex organs which is NOT the mind.

Their "informants" were section klan leaders. 

Only irrational people buy your bullshit 

Edited April 24 by West

[gatomontes99]

6 hours ago, Hodad said:

The indictment alleges that the informant did 4 things--none of which are "setting up" the rally. 
1. "Was a member of a leadership chat group that planned the event"
2. "Attended the event"
2. "Made racist posts"
3. "Arranged transportation to the event for several attendees"

I didn't say he set up the rally. I said he set up the protest. The protest that was attended by the people he invited with his posts and then helped them get there.

You are just blatantly denying what is right in front of you. 

6 hours ago, Hodad said:

I gave you the right answer. Now you are simply lying. It is a crime to create a synthetic identity using other people's identifiers. It is simply NOT a crime to misrepresent oneself. That's absolutely ludicrous. You can lie all you want, but you can't commit fraud. That's why that long list of people who professionally misrepresent themselves every day are not in jail. Lol, it's why YOU'RE not in jail. Read your own link and stop making a fool of yourself. Or don't. 

Fine. Don't read up on it. Live in your fantasy world.

[Hodad]

9 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

I didn't say he set up the rally. I said he set up the protest. The protest that was attended by the people he invited with his posts and then helped them get there.

You are just blatantly denying what is right in front of you. 

Fine. Don't read up on it. Live in your fantasy world.

You can never just be wrong and then learn something. You want to drag it on for pages. Why?

^^This is the same search you used. 

A. Again, perfectly legal to lie about your motives, what you're doing, even who you are, as long as it's you're not committing criminal acts. 
B. The informants weren't even pretending to be anyone else. 
C. It would have been legal even if they had pretended to be someone else.
D. None of the informants are charged or indicted with anything, so why are you even chasing your tail on this?
E. Stop digging. 

 

[West]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

You can never just be wrong and then learn something. You want to drag it on for pages. Why?

^^This is the same search you used. 

A. Again, perfectly legal to lie about your motives, what you're doing, even who you are, as long as it's you're not committing criminal acts. 
B. The informants weren't even pretending to be anyone else. 
C. It would have been legal even if they had pretended to be someone else.
D. None of the informants are charged or indicted with anything, so why are you even chasing your tail on this?
E. Stop digging. 

 

Not if you are raising money or selling a product. 

If you say your product cures baldness but it doesnt, thats deceptive and is not legal. 

Edited April 24 by West

[Nationalist]

3 minutes ago, West said:

Not if you are raising money or selling a product. 

If you say your product cures baldness but it doesnt, thats deceptive and is not legal. 

There are emails from the SPLC's own legal team advising what they were doing probably wasn't legal.

But will the Trump DOJ actually fry these fckers?

I'll be pleasantly shocked if they do.

[Reg Volk]

Andrew lays it out as to just how disgusting and evil the horrible SPLC are.

[West]

14 hours ago, robosmith said:

Crimes are pursuing INJUSTICE. Citizens pursuing JUSTICE is NOT CRIMINAL.

It is if they are RAISING MONEY UNDER FALSE PRETENSE. 

Duh

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

But will the Trump DOJ actually fry these fckers?

I'll be pleasantly shocked if they do.

Maybe maybe not. At least we can now confirm they are frauds tho

[Nationalist]

23 minutes ago, West said:

It is if they are RAISING MONEY UNDER FALSE PRETENSE. 

Duh

Maybe maybe not. At least we can now confirm they are frauds tho

Who cares? The Demoncrats certainly dont.

If nobody pays dearly for this, they win.

The Republicans need to grow a fckin' pair!

[Reg Volk]

On 4/22/2026 at 5:19 PM, gatomontes99 said:

No. They literally paid to have the Charlottesville happen. They created the white supremacist movement for donations. 

Yes, if you watch the press conference it's very clear - the SPLC set up fake companies with real bank accounts, and created fake hate groups to give the impression that "rampant hate" existed when it in fact did not exist.  They then leveraged these fake hate groups to generate huge donations, which were then funneled into salaries for employees of the SPLC.  Quite the racket.  Create hate, then get paid big salaries to combat the hate that you created out of thin air.  Just disgusting, but the Dems were all in on it.  Of course they were.

[Goddess]

23 hours ago, robosmith said:

Your quote doesn't support YOUR BOLDED ALLEGATION.

Discord, chat platform scrutinized in Kirk assassination, used by Canadian leftist networks to circulate political target files, lawyer says

Lawyer alleges federally funded Canadian Anti-Hate Network has aided Antifa-aligned groups that are compiling private dossiers on citizens via Discord.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, West said:

It is if they are RAISING MONEY UNDER FALSE PRETENSE. 

Duh

SPLC is known to be pursuing JUSTICE. They have NOT been CONVICTED of your ALLEGATIONS.

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The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is facing federal charges alleging wire fraud, conspiracy to commit money laundering, and misleading donors by allegedly paying $3 million to extremist group members, according to a Department of Justice (.gov) announcement. The indictment alleges SPLC used donations to fund the very extremism it targeted. Conversely, supporters maintain the SPLC is a champion for justice, arguing the charges are political, as noted by MS Magazine. 

• Federal Charges: The DOJ indictment alleges that from the 1980s, the SPLC ran a program paying informants within hate groups, with funds potentially facilitating crimes.
• Controversy and Response: While historically known for suing hate groups like the KKK, the SPLC has faced criticism for expanding its "hate map" to include conservative organizations.
• Legal Defense Perspective: Supporters and some legal analysts criticized by The Conversation argue the prosecution is a "warning shot" from the Trump administration designed to hinder civil rights work.
• Case Details: The case, labeled by NPR as a significant action against a non-profit, is centered in Alabama, where the SPLC is headquartered. 
  Department of Justice (.gov) +6

The allegations have sparked debate, with critics alleging the SPLC has become a "partisan smear machine" while proponents, as reported by AL.com, argue the organization is being targeted for its effective advocacy work

 

[WestCanMan]

On 4/21/2026 at 5:24 PM, eyeball said:

No, it's based on my certainty that the right wing assertion the SPLC is funding the Ku Klux Klan is pure hooey.

Newsflash: the SPLC funded the KKK.

Why does that come as such a surprise to you? Have you not noticed the Dems trying to divide the country racially? 

• What was the whole point of calling M Brown "the Gentle Giant" when there was video of him violently robbing a store just moments before he was shot, if not to divide?
• What was the whole point of calling G Floyd "the Gentle Giant", and acting like police had no good reason to interact with him, and pretending that the police were rude to him, and pretending that he only said "I can't breathe" while the cop had his knee on him, while they hid the bodycam footage which dispelled all of their fake talking points, if not to divide? 
• Dems and the MSM were calling white people and police racists that whole time, and calling violent protests "mostly peaceful". Was that for the good of the country, or to divide?
• CNN makes a TON of money off of race riots. Their heyday was Obama's last term, when incitement was coming right from the WH. Do you think that the funding of the KKK in North Carolina was good for CNN's bottom line? When was the last time they made money like that? 
• If the SPLC was good at their alleged job, they'd be out of a job. They need the dems' militias (Antifa, BLM, the KKK, anti-ICE, etc) to keep the hatred flowing, because their donations skyrocket after they stage hate events. 

Edited April 25 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, Goddess said:

Discord, chat platform scrutinized in Kirk assassination, used by Canadian leftist networks to circulate political target files, lawyer says

Lawyer alleges federally funded Canadian Anti-Hate Network has aided Antifa-aligned groups that are compiling private dossiers on citizens via Discord.

Paywall.

Can you post some if it here?

Just now, WestCanMan said:

Antifa-aligned groups that are compiling private dossiers on citizens via Discord.

Please, please, please let some Antifa punks come after me...

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, Reg Volk said:

Yes, if you watch the press conference it's very clear - the SPLC set up fake companies with real bank accounts, and created fake hate groups to give the impression that "rampant hate" existed when it in fact did not exist.  They then leveraged these fake hate groups to generate huge donations, which were then funneled into salaries for employees of the SPLC.  Quite the racket.  Create hate, then get paid big salaries to combat the hate that you created out of thin air.  Just disgusting, but the Dems were all in on it.  Of course they were.

That sounds like something Obama would have played a lead role in. "The Divider in Chief". 

[Hodad]

10 hours ago, West said:

Not if you are raising money or selling a product. 

If you say your product cures baldness but it doesnt, thats deceptive and is not legal. 

Read all the way to the end of the sentence...

Edited April 25 by Hodad

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Why does that come as such a surprise to you?

It doesn't. It's just right-wing horseshit of an all too typically libellous nature.

[robosmith]

19 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Newsflash: the SPLC funded the KKK.

Why does that come as such a surprise to you? Have you not noticed the Dems trying to divide the country racially? 

• What was the whole point of calling M Brown "the Gentle Giant" when there was video of him violently robbing a store just moments before he was shot, if not to divide?
• What was the whole point of calling G Floyd "the Gentle Giant", and acting like police had no good reason to interact with him, and pretending that the police were rude to him, and pretending that he only said "I can't breathe" while the cop had his knee on him, while they hid the bodycam footage which dispelled all of their fake talking points, if not to divide? 
• Dems and the MSM were calling white people and police racists that whole time, and calling violent protests "mostly peaceful". Was that for the good of the country, or to divide?
• CNN makes a TON of money off of race riots. Their heyday was Obama's last term, when incitement was coming right from the WH. Do you think that the funding of the KKK in North Carolina was good for CNN's bottom line? When was the last time they made money like that? 
• If the SPLC was good at their alleged job, they'd be out of a job. They need the dems' militias (Antifa, BLM, the KKK, anti-ICE, etc) to keep the hatred flowing, because their donations skyrocket after they stage hate events. 

No, they did NOT.

[robosmith]

What’s Wrong With The SPLC Indictment

 

Joyce Vance is a Brennan Center senior fellow who lends her expertise as a former federal prosecutor to writing and commenting on high-profile court cases and election-related matters. She is a distinguished professor of the practice of law at the University of Alabama School of Law, where she has taught since 2017, focusing on criminal law and democratic institutions.

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DOJ's indictment of the Southern Poverty Law Center is a critical moment in the administration's war on democracy

Civil rights organizations protect us when our rights are at risk. You, personally, may not need that today. But over the long stretch of time, it’s more than likely you, or someone you care about, will. It’s like the famous Martin Niemöller quote: “First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

The civil rights community stands up for the people “they come for.” That translates into real progress. People can live their lives, love who they want to, be paid fairly for their labor, have access to jobs, education, and travel, and vote. Civil rights groups are there when government isn’t. And that has never been more important than it is now.

That may explain why this administration has been so intent on disassembling civil society groups in America. They’ve come for government agencies, universities, and the law firms that pursued the same goals and, in many cases, worked in the trenches with civil rights groups. Now, having demonized DEI and turned the work of DOJ’s Civil Rights Division on its head—they’ve turned their focus to protecting Christians from discrimination and preventing eligible Americans from voting—the direct attack on the nation’s civil rights group is on, starting with the indictment filed this week against the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) in Montgomery, Alabama.

Here’s the central thesis of the case: The Justice Department wants us to believe that one of the nation’s leading civil rights groups, the people who broke the Klan and continue to expose the white supremacist groups that crop up in its wake, is actually supporting racism and domestic terror, that they’re in fact responsible for whipping up the frenzy. This indictment tells a story, and the story is that SPLC engaged in material support for domestic terrorist groups.

The indictment rises or falls on one faulty premise: that you should look only at one piece of SPLC’s work to infiltrate these dangerous groups, not at their overall efforts to dismantle them. DOJ predicates its wire fraud charges, which we discussed here, on the assumption that people who donated to SPLC would be unhappy that their dollars were used to fund paid informants who obtained inside information about what white supremacists and other groups were up to.

DOJ uses tunnel vision to convince people—because that’s what this indictment is about, convincing the public before the case ever gets to trial—that the Southern Poverty Law Center is responsible for everything from the tragic violence at the Charlottesville “Unite The Right” Rally during Trump’s first term in office to, well, who knows what all. To hear acting AG Todd Blanche and FBI Director Kash Patel sell it in a very unusual press conference (that took place in Washington, D.C., without the U.S. Attorney who indicted the case in Montgomery, Alabama, present), SPLC is responsible for the rise of domestic violence in America today. It’s ironic coming from the administration of a man who solicited his followers to come to Washington, D.C., on January 6 to fight for him, which they did. It’s easy to see how problematic that approach will be when it comes to a jury, which must unanimously go along with this flawed argument in order to convict.

 

The information SPLC developed served its donors in more ways than might be immediately obvious. Dismantling hate groups is the organization’s explicit goal. It works toward it in multiple ways, including, very importantly, educating young people to “vaccinate” them against hate’s efforts to recruit them. Information is a form of sunlight, the best disinfectant, and SPLC uses it to great effect. DOJ will have to prove that donors were defrauded beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

Students being exposed to the history of hate in America

Paragraph 9 in the indictment puts the internal contradiction in the indictment on full display:

“9. Between at least 2014 and 2023, the SPLC paid their Fs [the designation DOJ says is used for paid sources] in a clandestine manner. Doing so hid the fact that while the SPLC received donation money under the auspices that the funds would be used to ‘dismantle’ violent extremist groups, this donation money was, instead, being used, in part, by the SPLC to pay leaders and others within these same violent extremist groups. That money was then used for the benefit of the individuals as well as the violent extremist groups.”

If you want to learn about white supremacists, you have to go and talk to them. You can’t get the information you need from the outsiders. You need access to people who are not choirboys. SPLC obtained it. And then used it for precisely the purpose they told donors they were going to use it for.

So why bring an indictment like this at all? SPLC is not the only non-profit that uses informants, and some commentators have suggested that right-wing groups like Project Veritas could be accused of the same thing. Why single out SPLC? Why do it now? Why indict only the non-profit, not the individuals whose actions are discussed in the indictment in ways that suggest DOJ knows who they are?

That last point stands out, in light of a new directive at DOJ, issued just last month, directing prosecutors to hold individuals accountable, not just corporate entities, who, of course, cannot go to jail.

 

 

Is it just about fining SPLC, because they can never be jailed? Or, is it something darker?

No one who uses informants goes out and tells the public they’re doing that—it would defeat the purpose and expose the informants to harm. So of course SPLC didn’t publicize that specific method to their donors. Federal law enforcement vigorously protects its sources, especially paid ones who are embedded with dangerous foreign and domestic terror groups. But DOJ is playing with fire when it comes to SPLC’s informants.

In paragraph 11 of the indictment, they all but name some of the key informants, providing the groups they belong to with sufficient information to identify them. Many of them will already be deceased. Some may still be alive. But it doesn’t matter. It’s the message that this sends. It’s a warning to anyone who might consider cooperating with anti-hate groups in the future: “Don’t do it!” It’s a message of intimidation from the leadership of DOJ, delivered for the benefit of their audience of one—if you align yourself against us, we can take you down. In essence, this indictment is about protecting domestic terror groups from exposure, not about prosecuting a real crime that SPLC committed.

Here’s an example. Paragraph 11c of the indictment serves as a potent warning to people not to cooperate with civil rights groups who are trying to expose or dismantle white supremacist domestic terror groups:

“F-unknown was the Imperial Wizard of the United Klans of America. In an article published on November 22, 2013, the SPLC described the group as a ‘millennial reboot of what was once a serious domestic threat.’”

Message received. Don’t cooperate with organizations like SPLC against domestic terror groups.

That seems to be the primary purpose of this indictment. We don’t yet know the evidence the government intends to offer, but there are some legal flaws in the indictment and its theories, and it’s sloppy when it comes to the facts. For instance, back to paragraph 11c, which identifies the Imperial Wizard of the United Klans as one of SPLC’s sources. It continues: “In its prime, the United Klans of America was responsible for, among other things, the 16th Street Baptist Church bombing in Birmingham, Ala., which resulted in the deaths of four little girls in 1963."

Except that’s not true. My office indicted that case. We were careful to specify in the indictment that the church bombing was committed by a splinter group that was too violent for even the United Klans. DOJ should have gotten a basic fact like that correct. They didn’t. It has no bearing on SPLC’s guilt. But it suggests that this is not a carefully crafted indictment, as one would expect from an undertaking so major that the Attorney General himself would conduct the press conference announcing it from Washington, D.C. It makes you wonder, if they weren’t careful with the details in the indictment, what other mistakes were made?

This indictment will make it more difficult for nonprofit civil rights groups to track domestic terrorism in a moment when the FBI and DOJ seem to have abandoned that work. This indictment is a warning.

In October 1973, DOJ’s Civil Rights Division filed a civil suit against Donald Trump, his father, and the Trump Management Company, alleging that they systematically discriminated against Black and Puerto Rican tenants in their New York City apartment buildings in violation of the Fair Housing Act of 1968:

Some former employees, like a doorman at Trump properties, told investigators that Black applicants were often told no apartments were available when they in fact were, and the units were offered to white applicants. The Trumps hired Roy Cohn, Trump’s gold standard for lawyers, and countersued for $100 million. Donald Trump learned to go on the offensive when under attack.

The initial tip to the Civil Rights Division came from the National Urban League, one of the civil society groups that, like SPLC, works to protect Americans’ rights.

The Trumps and their company entered into a consent decree settling the litigation in 1975. Trump billed it as a win—his company wasn’t required to formally admit guilt. But that’s how consent decrees frequently work, and the company was obligated to put safeguards in place to ensure apartments were rented without regard to race, color, religion, sex, or national origin in compliance with the Housing Act.

That’s how civil rights work protects all of us and now, it’s on the chopping block. The indictment against the SPLC is very troubling, not only because of its flaws, but because of what it represents—an attack on the civil rights community itself. This week, they may have come for the SPLC. It’s unlikely it will stop there.

 

Edited April 25 by robosmith

[gatomontes99]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

What’s Wrong With The SPLC Indictment

 

Just opinions from a butt hurt lefty. Got any proof? 

[West]

 

This is the SPLC. Except they funded radicalized extremists to tie normal conservatives to extremists. Pretty sick 

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