August1991 Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 1. Mulroney did it in 1984. 2. Diefenbaker did it in 1957 - then decisively in 1958. 3. Harper did it progressively. === All federal Liberal politicians are corrupt. Carney? His cabinet? Quote
August1991 Posted April 17 Author Report Posted April 17 (edited) The federal Liberal Party will defeat itself - there will be a public perception of corruption. Carney has already started it. ==== In the past, many Canadians believed that Jean Chretien (like WalMart) was on their side. Edited April 17 by August1991 Quote
Nationalist Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 (edited) @August1991 Im afraid the damage is already done. The Conservatives will eventually regain control, but by then it'll be too late. Canastan is already fcked. Edited April 17 by Nationalist 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Barquentine Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 11 hours ago, August1991 said: All federal Liberal politicians are corrupt. I don't suppose you have some proof for that ridiculous blanket statement. 1 Quote
John Johnston Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 Ahh yes. The Sour Grapes of Wrath, Pt 3 episode 75, tonight at 9Pm. 9:30 Nfld time. 🤣 1 Quote
Goddess Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 I read an opinion piece yesterday that talked about the last election. Poilievre was riding high because Canadians were pretty much united on what the issues were - cost of living, affordability, corruption in the Liberal party and the cover-ups, jobs, the economy, healthcare, immigration levels. The threat was internal, so people banded together. Then Trump started tweeting about the 51st state and tariffs. Now the threat was external. Carney capitalized on this, amplified and inflated the threat. Half of Canadians got distracted by this, while the other half were still focused on our internal threats. Canadians were now divided. The 10-year record of Liberal failure was totally forgotten about. Fear is a great control mechanism and the Liberals are great at using it to manipulate the population. They're still doing it. Carney is still constantly talking about "ruptures", "a dangerous & divided world", the US wants to own us, destroy us, invade us, take us over, middle powers in the world must stand against the larger powers of the world (this has always been the case, it's nothing new.) The article said that using fear this way will only last so long - people will get fatigued of it, emotional manipulation is exhausting on a population. At some point, they will realize the fear was not the threat it was made out to be and that the internal threats are still there. We're not at that point yet. There's still too many Canadians that think our enemy is the US. I don't have confidence that most Canadians will ever figure it out. Also watched this interview with Pete Hoekstra this morning. The US is sitting back and watching Canadians lose their shit with bewilderment. It's astonishing to them that we are basically destroying ourselves. You can disagree with him, but it's always good to get the other side's perspective. They are definitely taking more note of Carney's fear rhetoric about the US and Canadian's reaction to it. I'm not sure how Carney's rhetoric is going to make CUSMA negotiations better. I'm more & more convinced he's deliberately sabotaging them. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
herbie Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 3 hours ago, Barquentine said: I don't suppose you have some proof for that ridiculous blanket statement. Of course not. They all just repeat the mantra or dig up the tiniest thing like Trudeau's socks colour as corruption and ignore any Tory scandals completely. Wanna beat the Libs? Dump 'Milhouse' PP, stop lying about representing the working person, the climate, explain how you'll cut taxes and still have money to do dick shit, and come up with actual alternatives. 1 Quote
August1991 Posted April 19 Author Report Posted April 19 On 4/17/2026 at 1:25 PM, Goddess said: .... They're still doing it. Carney is still constantly talking about "ruptures", "a dangerous & divided world", the US wants to own us, destroy us, invade us, take us over, middle powers in the world must stand against the larger powers of the world (this has always been the case, it's nothing new.) Trump layed the card. Poilievre should have played the nationalist card, strongly: Defend Canada, Quebec. === Carney was the better card player. 1 Quote
August1991 Posted April 19 Author Report Posted April 19 Mulroney, Laurier, Chretien, King, Harper would have played better. Trudeau Snr far better. ==== We Canadians are now stuck with guys like Trudeau Jnr. Or Mark Carney in the 2000s Quote
August1991 Posted April 19 Author Report Posted April 19 On 4/17/2026 at 2:57 PM, herbie said: ..... Wanna beat the Libs? Dump 'Milhouse' PP, stop lying about representing the working person, the climate, explain how you'll cut taxes and still have money to do dick shit, and come up with actual alternatives. Dump Pierre Polievre? Milhous? Richard Nixon lost in 1960, then 1962. He was not a quitter. ===== To succeed in federal Canadian politics, a person must agree to get along. Quote
John Johnston Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: I don't understand why Canadians did not vote for Milhouse. I mean, he looks great in a pair of Mom jeans and has a spiffy new pair of Contac's. Pierre thought Canadians were stupid enough to fall for this act. what went wrong? 😁 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 (edited) 4 hours ago, John Johnston said: I don't understand why Canadians did not vote for Milhouse. I mean, he looks great in a pair of Mom jeans and has a spiffy new pair of Contac's. Pierre thought Canadians were stupid enough to fall for this act. what went wrong? 😁 Well, he was wrong wasn't he? Canadians did not fall for his rhetoric and slogans. His base is as blinded as much as Trumps groupies are. It has been discovered that Trumps "red states" and groupies are amongst the least educated in the country...I wonder if anyone ever did that investigation into PP's groupies and base? LOL Edited April 22 by ExFlyer 1 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
John Johnston Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: Well, he was wrong wasn't he? Canadians did not fall for his rhetoric and slogans. His base is as b;inded as much as Trumps groupies are. It has been discovered that Trumps "red states" and groupies are amongst the least educated in the country...I wonder if anyone ever did that investigation into PP's groupies and base? LOL The RCMP are far to busy acting as bouncers for American Pipeline Corps. 1 Quote
August1991 Posted April 23 Author Report Posted April 23 13 hours ago, John Johnston said: I don't understand why Canadians did not vote for Milhouse. I mean, he looks great in a pair of Mom jeans and has a spiffy new pair of Contac's. Pierre thought Canadians were stupid enough to fall for this act. what went wrong? 😁 Well said. ==== Some women do not like guys like Trump/Poilievre. Vibe. 1 Quote
Moonbox Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 (edited) On 4/22/2026 at 7:43 AM, ExFlyer said: It has been discovered that Trumps "red states" and groupies are amongst the least educated in the country...I wonder if anyone ever did that investigation into PP's groupies and base? They have. The Conservative "base" in Canada (ie. the die-hards) are amongst the least-educated people in the country. https://abacusdata.ca/who-is-in-the-conservative-party-base-and-how-does-it-differ-from-other-canadians/ The Conservative base represents 23 percent of Canadians. These voters would only consider voting Conservative and are deeply anchored in Conservative identity. Over 40% of the screeching monkeys in the base have high school or less levels of education. These are folks we hear the most from on this forum. Less than 1/4 of them even a bachelor's degree. Edited April 29 by Moonbox 1 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Goddess Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: The Conservative "base" in Canada (ie. the die-hards) are amongst the least-educated people in the country. I see you drank the whole jug of Liberal elitist kool-aid, like a good boy. Ya, all those blue-collar workers are a bunch of id10ts. They need a globalist elitist banker to run every aspect of their lives because they're too stupid to do anything themselves. I prefer Poilievre's take on the workers of Canada, rather than the Carney's view that they're all incompetent nincompoops who need constant government babysitting and handouts. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Moonbox Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 9 minutes ago, Goddess said: I see you drank the whole jug of Liberal elitist kool-aid, like a good boy. Ya, all those blue-collar workers are a bunch of id10ts. They need a globalist elitist banker to run every aspect of their lives because they're too stupid to do anything themselves. It was an observation. The Conservative base is the least educated demographic in the voting public. They're not all id1ots, but the majority of them never received any formal education on critical reasoning or *gasp* how to research or cite anything. They're very easy to fool, and very easy to play. They like THREE WORD SLOGANS. AXE THE TAX STOP THE STEAL CARBON TAX CARNEY DIRTY BACKROOM DEALS 10 minutes ago, Goddess said: I prefer Poilievre's take on the workers of Canada, rather than the Carney's view that they're all incompetent nincompoops who need constant government babysitting and handouts. Of course you do. Pierre Polievre tells the doing-her-own-research Karens exactly what they want to hear. 1 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Goddess Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 6 minutes ago, Moonbox said: They like THREE WORD SLOGANS. ELBOWS UP! BUILD BACK BETTER! CANADA STRONG! CHOOSE FORWARD! And the current favourite: DANGEROUS AND DIVIDED WORLD. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Moonbox Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 9 minutes ago, Goddess said: ELBOWS UP! BUILD BACK BETTER! CANADA STRONG! CHOOSE FORWARD! And the current favourite: DANGEROUS AND DIVIDED WORLD. So are you pointing out that the Liberals use slogans sometimes, or rhetoric? Is this the zinger you think you landed? 🫠 1 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Legato Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 2 hours ago, Moonbox said: They have. The Conservative "base" in Canada (ie. the die-hards) are amongst the least-educated people in the country. https://abacusdata.ca/who-is-in-the-conservative-party-base-and-how-does-it-differ-from-other-canadians/ The Conservative base represents 23 percent of Canadians. These voters would only consider voting Conservative and are deeply anchored in Conservative identity. Over 40% of the screeching monkeys in the base have high school or less levels of education. These are folks we hear the most from on this forum. Less than 1/4 of them even a bachelor's degree. Like the sought after arts degrees in Three legged Morris Dancing or post graduate studies in The Well Being of the Barley Seed Lifestyle. The world is chock full of highly educated derelicts. The fast food industry being a prime example. The traditional view that a degree guarantees a specialized job is not always reflective of the current economic reality, leading many to work in service roles despite their qualifications and become Liberal voters due the total lack of common sense. 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 On 4/17/2026 at 9:58 AM, Nationalist said: @August1991 Im afraid the damage is already done. The Conservatives will eventually regain control, but by then it'll be too late. Canastan is already fcked. I thought you said you were leaving Canada??? Couldn't find any country that would take you??? LL 1 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
August1991 Posted April 30 Author Report Posted April 30 7 hours ago, Moonbox said: So are you pointing out that the Liberals use slogans sometimes, or rhetoric? Is this the zinger you think you landed? 🫠 Federal Liberals eventually lose elections because of corruption. It happened in the 1950s. It happened in the 1980s. It happened in the 2000s. ===== It will happen under this guy Carney. Quote
blackbird Posted April 30 Report Posted April 30 10 minutes ago, August1991 said: Federal Liberals eventually lose elections because of corruption. It happened in the 1950s. It happened in the 1980s. It happened in the 2000s. ===== It will happen under this guy Carney. Yes, liberals eventually lose, but they do a lot of damage in the meantime. They govern Canada two thirds of the time. They spend wildly and conservatives are expected to clean up the mess. That's the story of Canada. Quote
August1991 Posted April 30 Author Report Posted April 30 1 hour ago, blackbird said: Yes, liberals eventually lose, but they do a lot of damage in the meantime. They govern Canada two thirds of the time. They spend wildly and conservatives are expected to clean up the mess. That's the story of Canada. Sir John A. Macdonald, a Conservative, invented our Confederation and built a railway. True, he took drank - but he only took money for a good cause. Quote
August1991 Posted April 30 Author Report Posted April 30 Agreed. The federal Liberals are nefarious. They put that DEI woman on the $10 bill that nobody knows. We used to have Sir John A. Quote
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