John Stone Posted April 18 Report Posted April 18 1 minute ago, Legato said: started by the Biden admin. OMG, man ..............that all u got? Quote
Legato Posted April 18 Report Posted April 18 Just now, John Stone said: OMG, man ..............that all u got? what more is needed. Pretending it didn't happen is pathetic. Quote
John Stone Posted April 18 Report Posted April 18 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Legato said: started by the Biden admin. it went on for 4 years so don't act like you're unaware. ............... I accept u have nada ...... WHAT HAVE U GOT? I'm calling u out, dude. I'm sure there is nothing much ........... but a comparison might be revealing. Ya think?? Edited April 18 by John Stone Quote
User Posted April 18 Report Posted April 18 12 minutes ago, John Stone said: Re: "I don't give a shit that he is weaponizing the DOJ, in fact, I want more of it than is going on." What goes around, comes around, dude. lol You are on the comes around side now and crying about it. Good. 2 1 Quote
Legato Posted April 18 Report Posted April 18 44 minutes ago, John Stone said: ............... I accept u have nada ...... WHAT HAVE U GOT? I'm calling u out, dude. I'm sure there is nothing much ........... but a comparison might be revealing. Ya think?? The evidence is right there before your eyes wide shut. Why is Trump doing the same? Must be something to do with global warming or maybe he stubbed his toe. Quote
WestCanMan Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 8 hours ago, John Stone said: Ya mean the investigation ** Pam Bondi has launched against the Obama and Bidens administrations re: lawfare and ongoing 'criminal conspiracy'? Yes. The investigation where the FBI spied on Trump associates, lied about them, lied to the FISA court, leaked info to the press.... It's not every day that the FBI gets caught committing felonies. I'm not sure how you forgot about that one. Quote The accepted 'norm' is that the DOJ operates independently Except when they're working for the Dems. Running Russian collusion witch hunts, Ukrainian collusion witch hunts, chargiing people with "paying off a loan", and for being the unlucky 10,000th politician to get an NDA signed. Quote Trump has taken weaponization to new and absurd levels - DOJ and the FBI. For example? Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Venandi Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 (edited) 14 hours ago, John Stone said: Word to the wise, stay away from those Pentagon Pete vids - they're BS - he's pi$$'n on ya. This sort of response is why I used those AI generated bullet points and didn't bother taking the time to compose something similar, expand/modify them, or add additional ones I think pertinent. Most of the cautionary points don't even qualify for "point status" IMO; they're books. The problem with that (disconnect might be a better word) is that Herb's book report only contains 4 letters... TLDR. It leads to "strength of an idea," and it's usually based on narrative or strong pre-existing opinion. It's a form of overconfidence that leaves little room for agonizing over which course of action is best, or even identifying which is worse and why. Maybe just me but I prefer leaders who do a bit of agonizing; the less time people spend agonizing about this stuff the easier the solutions become. Edited April 19 by Venandi 1 Quote
Goober National Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 (edited) On 4/15/2026 at 7:08 PM, Zeitgeist said: He had a green card. This is the problem with the US. It’s become a mean-spirited country both domestically and in trade and foreign affairs. Losing its appeal. People in Canada and US are fed up with wokism and irresposible migration. The left's political attacks threaten our rights and make our streets unsafe. That anger is the fertile ground upon which a Donald Trump comes into power. He is a reaction to wokism. Trunp's "meanness" is a reaction to wokism's meanness. He will set them back on a course of US exceptionalism. eta- but sadly, Canada has no Trump to free us from this Soros-and-WEF-globalist control over our country. Canada has been sold out, for us there will be no redemption. Edited April 19 by Goober National 1 1 Quote
Venandi Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, Goober National said: Canada has no Trump to free us It's coming though, and to Europe too; we'll run significantly behind them I think. it's inevitable, most backlashes are fear based and the degree of backlash is proportional to the fear threshold of average voters. With sufficient incentive, they'll willingly trade previously defended principles and values for the promise of safety and rationalize it (at least initially) as a temporary condition. Fear is the most powerful IO tool available. Fear of disease, fear of financial hardship, fear of "others," fear of violence, there's a long list and fearful people are usually angry too. They resent being fearful and they resent the people who made them so. They want someone to blame for that and they'll often defer to a leadership contender who says: "follow me, I have the solution." At a minimum they usually demand and support regulations they never would have believed they would... and in fairness to them, they never would have if they hadn't been frightened enough in the first place. Later, when the fear and anger have faded, the memory of it provides a reset or creep in the level of intrusion they're willing to accept. It's how the bar is moved incrementally. The addition of anger is cool because there's an and/or component to it. it sustains momentum and tends to cement both support and opposition. Debate becomes rancorous, insulting, polarized, and positions harden.... usually no amount of evidence, discussion or even court rulings after the fact can sway positions based on fear and/or anger, especially both. The average person could read about IO nudges and techniques and they'd probably say: "no way, they would never fall for this" but the nudges are incremental and nudges don't (necessarily) rely on fear, they provide the creep that was always intended. As a for instance, MAID isn't fear based... as originally proposed it would (I think) most certainly pass muster with Canadians, BUT, if the current and projected MAID situation was part of the initial packaging there is no way it would IMO. The difference between its grudging acceptance now and outright rejection had it been part of the initial offering is the creep factor. It's not an accident. Remember when mental health and disability activists warned of the slippery slope that has actually come to pass? They were initially deemed to be tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists... now their concerns are being hotly debated as if heard for the first time. Edited April 19 by Venandi 1 Quote
Goober National Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Venandi said: It's coming though, and to Europe too; we'll run significantly behind them I think. it's inevitable, most backlashes are fear based and the degree of backlash is proportional to the fear threshold of average voters. With sufficient incentive, they'll willingly trade previously defended principles and values for the promise of safety and rationalize it (at least initially) as a temporary condition. Fear is the most powerful IO tool available. Fear of disease, fear of financial hardship, fear of "others," fear of violence, there's a long list and fearful people are usually angry too. They resent being fearful and they resent the people who made them so. They want someone to blame for that and they'll often defer to a leadership contender who says: "follow me, I have the solution." At a minimum they usually demand and support regulations they never would have believed they would... and in fairness to them, they never would have if they hadn't been frightened enough in the first place. Later, when the fear and anger have faded, the memory of it provides a reset or creep in the level of intrusion they're willing to accept. It's how the bar is moved incrementally. The addition of anger is cool because there's an and/or component to it. it sustains momentum and tends to cement both support and opposition. Debate becomes rancorous, insulting, polarized, and positions harden.... usually no amount of evidence, discussion or even court rulings after the fact can sway positions based on fear and/or anger, especially both. The average person could read about IO nudges and techniques and they'd probably say: "no way, they would never fall for this" but the nudges are incremental and nudges don't (necessarily) rely on fear, they provide the creep that was always intended. As a for instance, MAID isn't fear based... as originally proposed it would (I think) most certainly pass muster with Canadians, BUT, if the current and projected MAID situation was part of the initial packaging there is no way it would IMO. The difference between its grudging acceptance now and outright rejection had it been part of the initial offering is the creep factor. It's not an accident. Remember when mental health and disability activists warned of the slippery source that has actually come to pass? They were initially deemed tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists... now their concerns are being hotly debated. The right has been far too tolerant in accepting the left's extreme stance, hoping they will come back to the table. But they don't. Question is can nationalism or patriotism replace the public's fascination with the political freak show, lead them out of their fear and captivity. Yes it could. Loyalty to the national idea of Canada is a threat to wokeness, which only seeks to blame us for the sins of our fathers. We need to move past the blame. That is why when Justin Trudeau proclaimed Canada is a post-national state, he was taking away that nation-idea. In other words he was going to destroy Canada, by making young people feel ashamed of what happened centuries ago. If you look into what little kids are being taught now, about themselves and Canada, you'll understand how the attack of Wokeness is affecting youth and confusing them. Confusing over who they are. ... Back to thread, the US is becoming like it used to be. Canada is dying. Edited April 19 by Goober National misspelled aboot 1 Quote
Zeitgeist Posted April 19 Author Report Posted April 19 4 hours ago, Goober National said: People in Canada and US are fed up with wokism and irresposible migration. The left's political attacks threaten our rights and make our streets unsafe. That anger is the fertile ground upon which a Donald Trump comes into power. He is a reaction to wokism. Trunp's "meanness" is a reaction to wokism's meanness. He will set them back on a course of US exceptionalism. eta- but sadly, Canada has no Trump to free us from this Soros-and-WEF-globalist control over our country. Canada has been sold out, for us there will be no redemption. I agree that Canada has foolishly gone all in on woke leftist nonsense and it has damaged the country deeply in terms of national pride, birth rate, culture, economic strength, and national unity. Canada moved backwards for a decade. America and especially Canada needed a big correction. The problem of course is that we’re seeing excesses in US trade, immigration, and foreign policies that are creating other problems. Quote
John Stone Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 On 4/18/2026 at 5:31 PM, Legato said: started by the Biden admin. it went on for 4 years so don't act like you're unaware. Trump’s EO 14147 provided the authority to weaponize the DOJ / FBI. The FBI is the DOJ investigative wing. The E.O. clearly erases the norm of independence of the DOJ – basically taking orders directly from the Executive branch. Trumps EO 14147 (1/20) dictates actions that the Attorney General must take to remedy what it describes as the unprecedented 3rd world weaponization of prosecutorial power of the Biden administration. The order requires the AG ‘shall take appropriate action to review the activities of all departments and agencies exercising civil or criminal enforcement authority of the United States. On February 5, 2025, hours after being sworn in as attorney general Pam Bondi signed a memorandum establishing the Weaponization Working Group to review politicized prosecutions The working group was led by Ed Martin. Ed praised the Jan 6 Capitol attack and repeated false claims of fraud in the 2020 presidential election. In May 2025, Trump, despite heavy congressional opposition, confirmed that Martin would serve as director of the Weaponization Working Group. Martin outlined a strategy to shame individuals who cannot be charged with crimes at a press conference to be conducted soon. Martin did receive criticism for DOJ protocol in his pursuit of Trump’s enemies as p/o the working group, which led legal experts to describe his methods as “so outside the bounds that it could undermine any criminal case. Martin’s strategy was not so much getting a conviction but a indictment. (the perception of wrongdoing – perception becomes reality in the public eye?) Jared Wise, a former FBI agent who was charged with encouraging the Jan 6th Capitol attack rioters to ‘kill cops” became a strategy counselor to Martin. The establishment of the Weaponization Working Group marked a dramatic effort to utilize the United States federal government against perceived enemies of Donald Trump. Lead members of DOJ (retired, fired or quit) criticized the working group as an attempt to politicize the DOJ and the FBI. Many examples justifying their opinion were to follow. Indictments / investigations / intimidation tactics against James Comey, Letitia James and John Bolton, Adam Schiff, John Brennan and James Clapper were to follow. Entire department personal within the FBI / DOJ, having only fleeting involvement with any investigation re: Trump were fired – NO redress – resign, terminated or quit option. New hires were required to sign a letter of allegiance, not to the Constitution but to Donald J. Trump himself. Quote
Nationalist Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 2 hours ago, John Stone said: Trump’s EO 14147 provided the authority to weaponize the DOJ / FBI. The FBI is the DOJ investigative wing. The E.O. clearly erases the norm of independence of the DOJ – basically taking orders directly from the Executive branch. Trumps EO 14147 (1/20) dictates actions that the Attorney General must take to remedy what it describes as the unprecedented 3rd world weaponization of prosecutorial power of the Biden administration. The order requires the AG ‘shall take appropriate action to review the activities of all departments and agencies exercising civil or criminal enforcement authority of the United States. On February 5, 2025, hours after being sworn in as attorney general Pam Bondi signed a memorandum establishing the Weaponization Working Group to review politicized prosecutions The working group was led by Ed Martin. Ed praised the Jan 6 Capitol attack and repeated false claims of fraud in the 2020 presidential election. In May 2025, Trump, despite heavy congressional opposition, confirmed that Martin would serve as director of the Weaponization Working Group. Martin outlined a strategy to shame individuals who cannot be charged with crimes at a press conference to be conducted soon. Martin did receive criticism for DOJ protocol in his pursuit of Trump’s enemies as p/o the working group, which led legal experts to describe his methods as “so outside the bounds that it could undermine any criminal case. Martin’s strategy was not so much getting a conviction but a indictment. (the perception of wrongdoing – perception becomes reality in the public eye?) Jared Wise, a former FBI agent who was charged with encouraging the Jan 6th Capitol attack rioters to ‘kill cops” became a strategy counselor to Martin. The establishment of the Weaponization Working Group marked a dramatic effort to utilize the United States federal government against perceived enemies of Donald Trump. Lead members of DOJ (retired, fired or quit) criticized the working group as an attempt to politicize the DOJ and the FBI. Many examples justifying their opinion were to follow. Indictments / investigations / intimidation tactics against James Comey, Letitia James and John Bolton, Adam Schiff, John Brennan and James Clapper were to follow. Entire department personal within the FBI / DOJ, having only fleeting involvement with any investigation re: Trump were fired – NO redress – resign, terminated or quit option. New hires were required to sign a letter of allegiance, not to the Constitution but to Donald J. Trump himself. So you completely ignore the blatant lawfare of the Demoncrats. Cry us a river, Tweenkie-Poo. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
John Stone Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: So you completely ignore the blatant lawfare of the Demoncrats. Cry us a river, Tweenkie-Poo. Trump's EO made it pseudo legitimate? Basically a tasking order to DOJ. Quote
Nationalist Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 16 minutes ago, John Stone said: Trump's EO made it pseudo legitimate? Basically a tasking order to DOJ. Ya gits wut ya pays fer. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
John Stone Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 Just now, Nationalist said: Ya gits wut ya pays fer. .............. I prefer, 'elections have consequences'. Quote
Legato Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 2 hours ago, John Stone said: 7Trump’s EO 1414 provided the authority to weaponize the DOJ / FBI. The FBI is the DOJ investigative wing. The E.O. clearly erases the norm of independence of the DOJ – basically taking orders directly from the Executive branch. Trumps EO 14147 (1/20) dictates actions that the Attorney General must take to remedy what it describes as the unprecedented 3rd world weaponization of prosecutorial power of the Biden administration. The order requires the AG ‘shall take appropriate action to review the activities of all departments and agencies exercising civil or criminal enforcement authority of the United States. On February 5, 2025, hours after being sworn in as attorney general Pam Bondi signed a memorandum establishing the Weaponization Working Group to review politicized prosecutions The working group was led by Ed Martin. Ed praised the Jan 6 Capitol attack and repeated false claims of fraud in the 2020 presidential election. In May 2025, Trump, despite heavy congressional opposition, confirmed that Martin would serve as director of the Weaponization Working Group. Martin outlined a strategy to shame individuals who cannot be charged with crimes at a press conference to be conducted soon. Martin did receive criticism for DOJ protocol in his pursuit of Trump’s enemies as p/o the working group, which led legal experts to describe his methods as “so outside the bounds that it could undermine any criminal case. Martin’s strategy was not so much getting a conviction but a indictment. (the perception of wrongdoing – perception becomes reality in the public eye?) Jared Wise, a former FBI agent who was charged with encouraging the Jan 6th Capitol attack rioters to ‘kill cops” became a strategy counselor to Martin. The establishment of the Weaponization Working Group marked a dramatic effort to utilize the United States federal government against perceived enemies of Donald Trump. Lead members of DOJ (retired, fired or quit) criticized the working group as an attempt to politicize the DOJ and the FBI. Many examples justifying their opinion were to follow. Indictments / investigations / intimidation tactics against James Comey, Letitia James and John Bolton, Adam Schiff, John Brennan and James Clapper were to follow. Entire department personal within the FBI / DOJ, having only fleeting involvement with any investigation re: Trump were fired – NO redress – resign, terminated or quit option. New hires were required to sign a letter of allegiance, not to the Constitution but to Donald J. Trump himself. Why the Biden ignorance. (AI) There is no widely cited "EO 14144" or "EO 1414" listed as a major policy act of the second Trump administration. However, in June 2025, President Trump issued an executive order related to cybersecurity that amended previous orders. The White House (.gov) +1 Here is the context regarding 2025 Executive Orders and related actions based on the provided search results: Cybersecurity Amendment (June 6, 2025): President Trump signed an executive order, "Sustaining Select Efforts to Strengthen the Nation's Cybersecurity," which amended EO 13694 and EO 14144. Initial Day One Orders (January 20, 2025): The administration focused on EO 14148 ("Initial Rescissions of Harmful Executive Orders and Actions") and EO 14149 ("Restoring Freedom of Speech and Ending Federal Censorship"). Weaponization Order (January 20, 2025): Executive Order 14147 was signed, titled "Ending the Weaponization of the Federal Government". The White House (.gov) +5 1 Quote
John Stone Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 5 minutes ago, Legato said: Why the Biden ignorance. (AI) There is no widely cited "EO 14144" or "EO 1414" listed as a major policy act of the second Trump administration. However, in June 2025, President Trump issued an executive order related to cybersecurity that amended previous orders. The White House (.gov) +1 Here is the context regarding 2025 Executive Orders and related actions based on the provided search results: Cybersecurity Amendment (June 6, 2025): President Trump signed an executive order, "Sustaining Select Efforts to Strengthen the Nation's Cybersecurity," which amended EO 13694 and EO 14144. Initial Day One Orders (January 20, 2025): The administration focused on EO 14148 ("Initial Rescissions of Harmful Executive Orders and Actions") and EO 14149 ("Restoring Freedom of Speech and Ending Federal Censorship"). Weaponization Order (January 20, 2025): Executive Order 14147 was signed, titled "Ending the Weaponization of the Federal Government". The White House (.gov) +5 Here is some clarity re: EO 14147 EO 14147, titled 'Ending the Weaponization of the Federal Government' was signed by Trump at the very beginning of his second term.. EO 14147 (1/20) dictates actions that the Attorney General must take to remedy what it describes as the unprecedented 3rd world weaponization of prosecutorial power of the Biden administration. The order requires the AG ‘shall take appropriate action to review the activities of all departments and agencies exercising civil or criminal enforcement authority of the United States. On February 5, 2025, hours after being sworn in as attorney general Pam Bondi signed a memorandum establishing the Weaponization Working Group to review politicized prosecutions The EO puts into question the norm that the DOJ had long operated under, which was the independence of the DOJ to operate unrestricted and apart from the Executive. Trump was directing the actions of the DOJ. Quote
Deluge Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 On 4/15/2026 at 4:50 PM, Zeitgeist said: Why would we want to be a state in a country that treats people so badly? The excesses of ICE are bad for America and its international image. Do you think aliens should be able to cross our borders illegally? Quote
Venandi Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 1 hour ago, John Stone said: Trump's EO made it pseudo legitimate? Basically a tasking order to DOJ. You seem surprised by all of this. You were repeatedly warned that law fare would have consequences. Now those consequences will be lasting ones and when they spin up in reverse (after the next election) you will relish the moment and defend them with the same YUK YUKs Flybaby does. Bide your time, in a couple of years you'll like it again. 1 Quote
Hodad Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 (edited) On 4/19/2026 at 9:01 AM, Venandi said: It's coming though, and to Europe too; we'll run significantly behind them I think. it's inevitable, most backlashes are fear based and the degree of backlash is proportional to the fear threshold of average voters. With sufficient incentive, they'll willingly trade previously defended principles and values for the promise of safety and rationalize it (at least initially) as a temporary condition. Fear is the most powerful IO tool available. Fear of disease, fear of financial hardship, fear of "others," fear of violence, there's a long list and fearful people are usually angry too. They resent being fearful and they resent the people who made them so. They want someone to blame for that and they'll often defer to a leadership contender who says: "follow me, I have the solution." At a minimum they usually demand and support regulations they never would have believed they would... and in fairness to them, they never would have if they hadn't been frightened enough in the first place. Later, when the fear and anger have faded, the memory of it provides a reset or creep in the level of intrusion they're willing to accept. It's how the bar is moved incrementally. The addition of anger is cool because there's an and/or component to it. it sustains momentum and tends to cement both support and opposition. Debate becomes rancorous, insulting, polarized, and positions harden.... usually no amount of evidence, discussion or even court rulings after the fact can sway positions based on fear and/or anger, especially both. The average person could read about IO nudges and techniques and they'd probably say: "no way, they would never fall for this" but the nudges are incremental and nudges don't (necessarily) rely on fear, they provide the creep that was always intended. As a for instance, MAID isn't fear based... as originally proposed it would (I think) most certainly pass muster with Canadians, BUT, if the current and projected MAID situation was part of the initial packaging there is no way it would IMO. The difference between its grudging acceptance now and outright rejection had it been part of the initial offering is the creep factor. It's not an accident. Remember when mental health and disability activists warned of the slippery slope that has actually come to pass? They were initially deemed to be tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists... now their concerns are being hotly debated as if heard for the first time. This is generally a good an insightful post. What's missing though is the acknowledgement that this is EXACTLY the playbook that authoritarians always run, and EXACTLY the playbook that Trumpco runs. From casting himself as a savior (literally, at this point) to speeches about immigrant invasion and American carnage and threats to suburbia, open talk of retribution and revenge, hardened tribalism (now with uniforms/merch!) etc. The boundary pushing and norm-busting. The unprecedented number of unprecedented actions. The aggressive attacks on the media and the judicial branches. Harnessing the legal authority of the government for personal and political purposes. Literally, people afraid, angry and mislead to the point of forming a mob to attack our own government. We're living through all of what you describe, but it feels like your premise is that Trump will save us from it--is an antidote to his own playbook. That's where it gets weird. Edited April 20 by Hodad Quote
Legato Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 26 minutes ago, John Stone said: Here is some clarity re: EO 14147 EO 14147, titled 'Ending the Weaponization of the Federal Government' was signed by Trump at the very beginning of his second term.. EO 14147 (1/20) dictates actions that the Attorney General must take to remedy what it describes as the unprecedented 3rd world weaponization of prosecutorial power of the Biden administration. The order requires the AG ‘shall take appropriate action to review the activities of all departments and agencies exercising civil or criminal enforcement authority of the United States. On February 5, 2025, hours after being sworn in as attorney general Pam Bondi signed a memorandum establishing the Weaponization Working Group to review politicized prosecutions The EO puts into question the norm that the DOJ had long operated under, which was the independence of the DOJ to operate unrestricted and apart from the Executive. Trump was directing the actions of the DOJ. Yes, undoing the Biden administrations doing. Quote
Deluge Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 2 minutes ago, Hodad said: This is generally a good an insightful post. What's missing though is the acknowledgement that this is EXACTLY the playbook that authoritarians always run, and EXACTLY the playbook that Trumpco runs. From casing himself as a savior (literally, at this point) to speeches about immigrant invasion and American carnage and threats to suburbia, open talk of retribution and revenge, hardened tribalism (now with uniforms/merch!) etc. The boundary pushing and norm-busting. The unprecedented number of unprecedented actions. The aggressive attacks on the media and the judicial branches. Harnessing the legal authority of the government for personal and political purposes. Literally, people afraid, angry and mislead to the point of forming a mob to attack our own government. We're living through all of what you describe, but it feels like your premise is that Trump will save us from it--is an antidote to his own playbook. That's where it gets weird. Don't you understand that the vast majority of his actions are warranted? Sure, he's unorthodox in his delivery, but he has no choice. It's either do what he's been doing, or follow Biden and Harris and bend the knee to global marxists. Quote
John Stone Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 7 minutes ago, Legato said: Yes, undoing the Biden administrations doing. .............. I believe that's the type of argument the NAZI used against the Weimar republic. 😄 Quote
Nationalist Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 13 minutes ago, Hodad said: This is generally a good an insightful post. What's missing though is the acknowledgement that this is EXACTLY the playbook that authoritarians always run, and EXACTLY the playbook that Trumpco runs. From casing himself as a savior (literally, at this point) to speeches about immigrant invasion and American carnage and threats to suburbia, open talk of retribution and revenge, hardened tribalism (now with uniforms/merch!) etc. The boundary pushing and norm-busting. The unprecedented number of unprecedented actions. The aggressive attacks on the media and the judicial branches. Harnessing the legal authority of the government for personal and political purposes. Literally, people afraid, angry and mislead to the point of forming a mob to attack our own government. We're living through all of what you describe, but it feels like your premise is that Trump will save us from it--is an antidote to his own playbook. That's where it gets weird. Lol... "AHHH! ORANGEMANDBAD IS ATTACKING US...LIKE WE ATTACKED CONSERVATIVES! HOW DARE HE! AHHH!" Dumb fckin' Libbies. You really thought you could rape the legal system AND the NGO finance AND the border... and get away with it? Stupid you. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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