Army Guy Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 7 minutes ago, eyeball said: How about choosing MAID to end the pain and suffering leftism causes? I can just imagine the state of the country if the lefties had no opposition to their rule, Sorry to many on the right side have given their lives for this nation....no way are we going to leave our country in your hands period... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
blackbird Posted April 11 Author Report Posted April 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, eyeball said: The Nuchatlaht plan to develop tourism on Nootka Island so I suspect anyone will be welcome. Have you ever been there? It's a beautiful place. Do you really think any non-natives will be able to go to these places for free or hunt and fish there? I strongly doubt it. I don't think it is right to give legal ownership of crown land and provincial parks to a FN band. Crown land and the parks belong to all Canadians, not a tiny percentage of the population who happened to have ancestors that lived in the area and hunted and fished there. They can still live there and hunt and fish without being given ownership and title to all the land. It is bizarre. I heard this morning from someone who said in some remote areas along an inlet on Vancouver Island, if you step ashore on the beach, some native will come along and ask you to pay a fee for going there. It could also happen on Nootka Island now. They will likely be extorting money from anyone to comes into these areas. Edited April 11 by blackbird 1 1 Quote
eyeball Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 8 hours ago, Army Guy said: ...no way are we going to leave our country in your hands period... Duh duh DAAAAA!!! 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 (edited) 8 hours ago, blackbird said: Do you really think any non-natives will be able to go to these places for free or hunt and fish there? I strongly doubt it. Me too. Do you have any idea what it costs to get yourself there to hunt, fish, kayak etc etc? In the meantime, with certainty now established the Nuchatlaht will be able to form partnerships with investors with even deeper pockets to develop the sorts of resorts and such that cater to people who want to go fish and hunt there. If it's anything like destination resorts in places like Tofino it costs a family of 4 around a thousand dollars a day, and certainly more when you fly in or use a boat. Edited April 12 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
blackbird Posted April 12 Author Report Posted April 12 On 4/10/2026 at 5:39 AM, ExFlyer said: The SSC works one way...according to the law.....not according to your way LOL Any and every government has to abide by the SSC rulings. You just admitted it is undemocratic. The SCC is unelected. They have no mandate from the people. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 1 hour ago, blackbird said: You just admitted it is undemocratic. The SCC is unelected. They have no mandate from the people. So, you basically need to get rid of the Charter, go to Buckingham Palace to dissolve Canada and start from scratch to address your concerns. Want to bet First Nations would be 100% behind you? 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ExFlyer Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 8 hours ago, blackbird said: You just admitted it is undemocratic. The SCC is unelected. They have no mandate from the people. What is it about the SSC that you do not understand?? The SSC is not a political group. It is lawyers applying the existing laws. 1 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Zeitgeist Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 Canada is seen as an international outlier on assisted suicide, with the fastest growing assisted suicide rates and most permissive laws. It’s rightly seen as a failure of our healthcare system and a disregard for medical ethics. 1 Quote
John Johnston Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 6 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Canada is seen as an international outlier on assisted suicide, with the fastest growing assisted suicide rates and most permissive laws. It’s rightly seen as a failure of our healthcare system and a disregard for medical ethics. Nonsense. Quote
Zeitgeist Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 (edited) 18 minutes ago, John Johnston said: Nonsense. Well our 1.3 birth rate just adds to the shame of Canada’s disregard for human life. Edited April 12 by Zeitgeist 1 Quote
eyeball Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Well our 1.3 birth rate just adds to the shame of Canada’s disregard for human life. Why aren't you people breeding like rabbits to compensate for this? 1 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Zeitgeist Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 On 4/9/2026 at 2:49 PM, blackbird said: Back in 2015, the Supreme Court apparently ruled in favour of assisted dying with the argument that the right to die is similar to the right to life. The argument put forward by assisted suicide advocates and apparently bought by the SCC is that if a person is not given the right to assisted dying (assisted suicide) that they might take their own lives. The SCC somehow reasoned that denying a person medical assistance in dying was a denial of their charter right to life. You can see how perverted this thinking is. A right to life suddenly came to include a right to assisted suicide. A small number of people or judges on a court suddenly in a moment of time in 2015 decided to change the course of history in Canada which has led to possibly 17,500 to 18,000 deaths by MAID in 2025. Now this so-called right is in the works to be extended in March 2027 to include the mentally ill. Anyone, even though not mentally fit to make any such decision, may decide to take MAID under the bizarre belief that this is health care. First reading: Canada told mentally ill must be euthanized lest they kill themselves This is the heart of the problem with Canada today. How can a country be a force for good when it uses its healthcare system to kill people? This simply cannot square with honest medical ethicists. Extending this to people who are not of sound mind is so grossly irresponsible and wrong that it strips our country of moral authority, making it even harder to have credibility internationally. The Americans see this aspect of Canada and rightly judge us for it. 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: Why aren't you people breeding like rabbits to compensate for this? I have 4 kids. You seem pretty loose on all thinks killing: abortion, MAID, hard drugs use. Congratulations. 1 1 Quote
Zeitgeist Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 21 hours ago, blackbird said: Do you really think any non-natives will be able to go to these places for free or hunt and fish there? I strongly doubt it. I don't think it is right to give legal ownership of crown land and provincial parks to a FN band. Crown land and the parks belong to all Canadians, not a tiny percentage of the population who happened to have ancestors that lived in the area and hunted and fished there. They can still live there and hunt and fish without being given ownership and title to all the land. It is bizarre. I heard this morning from someone who said in some remote areas along an inlet on Vancouver Island, if you step ashore on the beach, some native will come along and ask you to pay a fee for going there. It could also happen on Nootka Island now. They will likely be extorting money from anyone to comes into these areas. Yup, and only now that it’s impacting left-wing politicians who own property in areas of BC that have been handed over to natives by the ideologically-captured courts is the BC government starting to freak out and backpedal on its misguided UNDRIP support. Non-natives in BC are losing title to their property and it’s their own government that caused this. 1 1 Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 (edited) On 4/9/2026 at 6:13 PM, blackbird said: That is why God's law in his written word, the Bible, is absolutely opposed to killing. Tell that to the people the Israellis massacred in Jericho. You can sum up God's law in one commandment. "Be nice to people, regardless of religious persuasion." However, on the topic of MAID, I have had to attend several suicides. It is a difficult event to see. While I have not had to attend suicide with a firearm, one of my colleagues had two of them. Hanging is really bad for the person who discovers it. I will just say it is far worse than you can imagine. Self admistered suicide is devestating to see. MAiD eliminates that and allows loved ones and the patient the opportinity for a dignitied passing. Edited April 12 by Queenmandy85 1 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Zeitgeist Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 5 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: Tell that to the people the Israellis massacred in Jericho. You can sum up God's law in one commandment. "Be nice to people, regardless of religious persuasion." However, on the topic of MAID, I have had to attend several suicides. It is a difficult event to see. While I have not had to attend suicide with a firearm, one of my colleagues had two of them. Hanging is really bad for the person who discovers it. I will just say it is far worse than you can imagine. Self admistered suicide is devestating to see. MAiD eliminates that and allows loved ones and the patient the opportinity for a dignitied passing. Yup, it’s the same philosophy that brought you “safe injection sites” that escalated hard drug use and helped increase drug-associated deaths to the leading cause of youth death in BC. There are longstanding reasons for the prohibition on suicide and its association with the sin of despair. Putting a happy face on it and getting the state to pay for and approve it just makes a bad practice seem okay. Tens of thousands of Canadians are dying of it with the state’s blessing each year and the criteria for approval keeps getting more lenient. This is the sign of a troubled and ethically compromised society, not one that promotes health and values life. Quote
blackbird Posted April 12 Author Report Posted April 12 6 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: Tell that to the people the Israellis massacred in Jericho. The ten commandments says thou shalt not kill. I think you are missing the point that self defence is a legitimate exception, be it an individual or a nation. I don't know anything about a massacre in Jericho. I will just say Israel has a right to defend itself against terrorists such as the Hamas and Hezbollah groups that are perpetually bent on killing Israelis. It is a well known fact that these terrorist groups hide among their civilians. It doesn't help when the government of Lebanon has Hezbollah supporters among its ranks and refuses to ban them from Lebanon. Who really controls Lebanon? This has been going on for ages. 1 Quote
TreeBeard Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 (edited) 5 minutes ago, blackbird said: The ten commandments says thou shalt not kill. Interesting that you are in favour of capital punishment while spouting your holy commandments. Thou shalt not kill only counts towards people you like? The ones you don’t like are fine to kill. Edited April 12 by TreeBeard Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said: Yup, it’s the same philosophy that brought you “safe injection sites” that escalated hard drug use and helped increase drug-associated deaths to the leading cause of youth death in BC. People will take drugs. We cannot stop them. But we can help keep them from dying. 38 minutes ago, blackbird said: I don't know anything about a massacre in Jericho. Joshua, at the behest of God, destroyed Jericho and killed every man, woman and child. 2 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
blackbird Posted April 12 Author Report Posted April 12 37 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Interesting that you are in favour of capital punishment while spouting your holy commandments. Thou shalt not kill only counts towards people you like? The ones you don’t like are fine to kill. Read Genesis 9 vs 6 KJV. It authorizes capital punishment for murder. Do you know the difference between a crime of murder and self defence? 1 Quote
TreeBeard Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 1 hour ago, blackbird said: Read Genesis 9 vs 6 KJV. It authorizes capital punishment for murder. Do you know the difference between a crime of murder and self defence? I know what “kill” means. And if it’s just a matter of opinion, then it’s useless. “Turn the other cheek” isn’t “kill them in self defence”. 1 Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 The destruction of the city of Jericho by the Israellis (as desribed in the Bible) was not self defence. It was murder. It was a massacre of men, women and children. 1 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Army Guy Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 11 hours ago, John Johnston said: Nonsense. Closing on 100,000 people put to death, even Iran has not killed that many....in the last 5 years...and those numbers are only going to grow once mentally ill people can sign up....what other country that offers maid is numbers are that high... 8 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: The destruction of the city of Jericho by the Israellis (as desribed in the Bible) was not self defence. It was murder. It was a massacre of men, women and children. By today standards sure, but back then it was just how man waged war... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
blackbird Posted April 13 Author Report Posted April 13 1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said: Joshua, at the behest of God, destroyed Jericho and killed every man, woman and child. quote The Moral Degeneracy of Canaan and Jericho The conquest is rooted in moral judgement, not ethnic hostility. Four centuries earlier God told Abraham, “In the fourth generation your descendants will return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.” (Genesis 15:16). By Joshua’s day Canaanite culture was marked by idolatry, ritual prostitution, and child sacrifice (Leviticus 18:24–25; Deuteronomy 12:31). Rahab’s confession—“We have heard how the LORD dried up the waters of the Red Sea… for the LORD your God, He is God in heaven above and on earth below” (Joshua 2:10–11)—reveals the city knowingly rejected the true God. Judgment fell after persistent, informed rebellion. Fulfillment of Long-Promised Judgment Jericho’s fall fulfills multiple prophecies: • The land pledge to Abraham (Genesis 15:18–21). • Moses’ prediction of Canaanite cities “great and fortified to the heavens” handed over to Israel (Deuteronomy 9:1–5). • The curses pronounced for idolatry (Deuteronomy 18:9–12). God’s faithfulness requires both mercy and justice (Exodus 34:6–7). Jericho’s destruction demonstrates the latter after an extended probationary period. unquote Why did God choose to destroy Jericho in Joshua 6:1? 1 Quote
Venandi Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: I know what “kill” means. It sounds like you don't. I'm also guessing you don't actually care about the context of the scripture you're quoting, you're just using it to make (what you think) is a clever point. Yes, The King James translation used the word "kill" because it was the standard english equivalent at the time of writing. The original Hebrew translation though used the word "ratsach" which in context means murder (or unlawful killing). Ethically, murder was (and still is) deemed "unjust intentional killing" and in that context, self defence, warfare, and capital punishment are treated separately in scripture. There's your homework assignment.... it's actually a little more "interesting" than you think and if anyone is "spouting" here it might just be you. Which actually is my only reason for posting this BTW. 3 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Interesting that you are in favour of capital punishment while spouting your holy commandments. So, in case you care, your argument falls flat scripturally. That said I share your opposition to capital punishment but likely for different reasons. I don't trust the government to get it right, I don't even trust them to fill potholes. That leads me to the abysmal mess "you people" (as eyehole loves to say) made of the whole bloody MAID thing and it only serves to make my opposition stronger. From the get go, I knew damn well you couldn't take a simple concept I might have otherwise supported and NOT turn it into the liberal shi% show you now champion. Had you offered up that which MAID has become (and is about to become) on the initial offering instead of adding it on as I knew you would, it would never (and I mean NEVER) have passed muster with Canadians in that form. It reminds me of the whole gun registration taking point: "we aren't going to confiscate your guns redneck... you register your dog don't you?" argument. YES you were, it was always the intention and it was intended to be incremental because it simply would not have been accepted any other way. Why not just be honest about all this and stop snowing the Snow Queen? There's another commandment for you to look at contextually and "spout" about. Edited April 13 by Venandi 1 1 Quote
blackbird Posted April 13 Author Report Posted April 13 3 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: Joshua, at the behest of God, destroyed Jericho and killed every man, woman and child. The full explanation of this is important to understand. Therefore I will quote the whole article here. Why did God choose to destroy Jericho in Joshua 6:1? Jericho’s Strategic and Symbolic Significance Jericho controlled the eastern approach to Canaan from the Jordan Valley. As a military stronghold and a religious center devoted to lunar deities, it embodied the entire Canaanite system in microcosm. By striking first at Jericho, God simultaneously: • Opened a corridor into the hill country for subsequent campaigns (Joshua 8–11). • Signaled that He—not Israel’s weapons—would defeat the land’s most fortified places (Deuteronomy 9:1–3). • Publicly dethroned the Canaanite gods (Exodus 12:12), asserting His unrivaled kingship (Psalm 24:8). The Moral Degeneracy of Canaan and Jericho The conquest is rooted in moral judgement, not ethnic hostility. Four centuries earlier God told Abraham, “In the fourth generation your descendants will return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.” (Genesis 15:16). By Joshua’s day Canaanite culture was marked by idolatry, ritual prostitution, and child sacrifice (Leviticus 18:24–25; Deuteronomy 12:31). Rahab’s confession—“We have heard how the LORD dried up the waters of the Red Sea… for the LORD your God, He is God in heaven above and on earth below” (Joshua 2:10–11)—reveals the city knowingly rejected the true God. Judgment fell after persistent, informed rebellion. Fulfillment of Long-Promised Judgment Jericho’s fall fulfills multiple prophecies: • The land pledge to Abraham (Genesis 15:18–21). • Moses’ prediction of Canaanite cities “great and fortified to the heavens” handed over to Israel (Deuteronomy 9:1–5). • The curses pronounced for idolatry (Deuteronomy 18:9–12). God’s faithfulness requires both mercy and justice (Exodus 34:6–7). Jericho’s destruction demonstrates the latter after an extended probationary period. Covenant Theology: Firstfruits of the Land Jericho functioned as a ban-devoted “firstfruits” (Hebrew ḥērem) of Canaan. All valuables went into the LORD’s treasury (Joshua 6:17–19). As Israel later dedicated inaugural harvest sheaves (Leviticus 23:10), so the city’s entire yield was devoted to God, underscoring His ownership of the land and people (Psalm 24:1). Demonstration of Divine Power and Israel’s Dependence God prescribed a bizarre, non-military tactic: silent marches, trumpet blasts, and a climactic shout (Joshua 6:3–5). The procedure: • Magnified God’s role—no siege engines, ladders, or battering rams. • Tested Israel’s obedience (Hebrews 11:30). • Foreshadowed salvation by faith rather than works (Ephesians 2:8–9). The collapse of impregnable walls after the seventh circuit (Joshua 6:20) left no doubt: “Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit” (Zechariah 4:6). Provision of Mercy: Rahab and Her Household Even in judgment God extends grace. Rahab, a Canaanite prostitute, trusted Yahweh, hid the spies, and tied the scarlet cord—a symbol of redemption—at her window (Joshua 2:12–21). She and her family alone were spared (Joshua 6:22–25). Rahab later entered Messiah’s lineage (Matthew 1:5) and is commended for faith (Hebrews 11:31; James 2:25). Jericho thus illustrates both wrath and rescue, anticipating the Cross where judgment and mercy converge. Archaeological Corroboration Excavations at Tell es-Sultan (ancient Jericho) supply striking parallels to Joshua 6: • John Garstang (1930–36) uncovered a collapsed brick wall forming a ramp over the city’s stone revetment—matching a sudden outward fall that could permit ascent. • He found storage jars filled with charred grain, indicating the city fell quickly in spring (cf. Joshua 3:15) and was burned, yet plunder was minimal—consistent with ḥērem devotion. • While Kathleen Kenyon (1952–58) re-dated the destruction to c.1550 BC, later ceramic analysis, radiocarbon samples, and scarab sequences re-established a late-15th-century date (Bryant Wood, 1990), aligning with Usshur’s 1406 BC Exodus-Conquest chronology. • The north quadrant’s wall section remained standing—precisely where Rahab’s house “in the wall” (Joshua 2:15) would have been located. Chronological Considerations Scripture’s internal timeline places Jericho’s fall 40 years after the Exodus (Numbers 14:33-34), itself dated to 1446 BC (1 Kings 6:1). That yields 1406 BC for Joshua 6, in harmony with the above archaeological data. Manuscript traditions (Masoretic, Samaritan, Septuagint) agree on the sequence, and the Amarna Letters (14th century BC) document Canaanite panic over “Habiru” invaders, dovetailing with Israel’s incursions. Miraculous Method and Theological Typology Jericho prefigures future divine interventions: • Eschatological judgment on the world system (Revelation 18). • The trumpet blasts mirror the seven trumpets of Revelation 8–11. • The scarlet cord alludes to Passover blood and Christ’s atonement (John 1:29). • The seventh-day, seven-time march anticipates Sabbath rest secured by Messiah (Hebrews 4:8-11). Practical and Ethical Lessons • Sin invites judgment, whether personal or societal. • Divine patience is immense but not infinite (2 Peter 3:9-10). • Faith secures deliverance; Rahab shows background is no barrier. • Believers should devote “firstfruits” of life—time, talent, treasure—to God. • Obedience, even when tactics seem irrational, invites miraculous outcomes. Jericho’s destruction answers the question not merely of “why” but “who”: a holy, covenant-keeping God asserting His righteousness, vindicating His promises, extending mercy to those who believe, and foreshadowing the ultimate victory secured in the risen Christ. unquote Why did God choose to destroy Jericho in Joshua 6:1? 1 Quote
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