Barquentine Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 Abacus Data conducted between Feb. 20 and Feb. 25. Alberta poll. Liberal support is up eight percentage points compared to last year’s election, with 36 per cent of respondents saying they would vote Liberal if a federal election were to be held today. That narrows the gap between the two parties. When ballots were cast last year, the Conservatives led by 36 points; now they lead by 15. FahChrissake, when are you Cons gonna wake up and get rid of this loser? Canada deserves a better opposition! 1 1 Quote
Goddess Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: Canada deserves a better opposition! By "better", I suspect you mean an opposition that will rubber-stamp anything the Liberal gov't does. I don't believe you want any opposition to the Liberal gov't. Period. 1 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
ironstone Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 2 hours ago, Barquentine said: FahChrissake, when are you Cons gonna wake up and get rid of this loser? Canada deserves a better opposition! After about a year of Mark Carney's leadership, are Canadians any better off than they were under Trudeau? 1 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
herbie Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 2 hours ago, Goddess said: By "better", I suspect you mean an opposition that will rubber-stamp anything the Liberal gov't does. No, he means an Opposition interested what's good for the country more than just roppling the govt and hoping they'll gain power. There's only planks in their platform are steps backward, the rest is just complaining. 1 Quote
Barquentine Posted March 9 Author Report Posted March 9 19 hours ago, ironstone said: After about a year of Mark Carney's leadership, are Canadians any better off than they were under Trudeau? Heading in the right direction. It will take time. Meanwhile A-hole Trump does everything he can to take everyone down, including his own country. We can't control that. (Oh, he accidentally helped Alberta by raising oil prices.) 20 hours ago, Goddess said: I don't believe you want any opposition to the Liberal gov't. Period. You're entitled to your beliefs. Too bad they don't align with the facts. 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 21 hours ago, Goddess said: By "better", I suspect you mean an opposition that will rubber-stamp anything the Liberal gov't does. I don't believe you want any opposition to the Liberal gov't. Period. No...a better opposition means exactly that... an opposition party with a leader that Canadians can support. Clearly PP is losing support almost daily. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 20 hours ago, ironstone said: After about a year of Mark Carney's leadership, are Canadians any better off than they were under Trudeau? Are we any better off after Sheer, O'Foole ,PP and 11 years of failed conservative leaders and losses?? As all the polls show...conservatives are in a deep dive again. So, an effective opposition party and leader that Canadians can support is imperative. Stop whining about what we got and get better Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ironstone Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: Heading in the right direction. It will take time. But what about right now? It's been a year, and over 10 years when you consider that by and large, it's the same people in charge rotating around in positions they're not good at. You can't think of any way that we are demonstrably better off right now? 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
ironstone Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Are we any better off after Sheer, O'Foole ,PP and 11 years of failed conservative leaders and losses?? As all the polls show...conservatives are in a deep dive again. So, an effective opposition party and leader that Canadians can support is imperative. Stop whining about what we got and get better You pin the blame for the sad state of the country on the opposition party? Isn't it more sensible to put that on...the one's that were actually in charge? 1 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
ExFlyer Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 18 minutes ago, ironstone said: You pin the blame for the sad state of the country on the opposition party? Isn't it more sensible to put that on...the one's that were actually in charge? Nope but if there was a viable opposition that Canadians could support, then they would not be in opposition and do what they keep saying is not being done. Isn't it more sensible to make the opposition more believable and viable to Canadians so they could be in power and do what they say should be done? Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Legato Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Are we any better off after Sheer, O'Foole ,PP and 11 years of failed conservative leaders and losses?? As all the polls show...conservatives are in a deep dive again. So, an effective opposition party and leader that Canadians can support is imperative. Stop whining about what we got and get better Whomever the Conservatives pick as a leader will come under severe vilification from the likes of the bought and paid for CBC, CTV, Grope and Fail etc, etc. You do see that, don't you? 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 24 minutes ago, ironstone said: But what about right now? It's been a year, and over 10 years when you consider that by and large, it's the same people in charge rotating around in positions they're not good at. You can't think of any way that we are demonstrably better off right now? And..why are the same people still in charge??? Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Legato said: Whomever the Conservatives pick as a leader will come under severe vilification from the likes of the bought and paid for CBC, CTV, Grope and Fail etc, etc. You do see that, don't you? And you don't think Carney is not under the microscope??? He gets bad press too. Some of you here post it every day LOL So, you think the CBC, CTV and whom ever have enough votes to prevent PP from winning?? What I see is that the conservatives have not convinced Canadians they are good enough. Blaming media is such a poor excuse for being a failed party in the last 4 elections and 4 leaders. LOL Edited March 9 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Legato Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: And you don't think Carney is not under the microscope??? He gets bad press too. Some of you here post it every day LOL So, you think the CBC, CTV and whom ever have enough votes to prevent PP from winning?? What I see is that the conservatives have not convinced Canadians they are good enough. Blaming media is such a poor excuse for being a failed party in the last 4 elections and 4 leaders. LOL The media has a large effect on many, they keep electing the corrupt Liberals. Did you somehow think the voting population reads tealeaves? 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 1 minute ago, Legato said: The media has a large effect on many, they keep electing the corrupt Liberals. Did you somehow think the voting population reads tealeaves? Yup...blame the media for 11+ years and 4 elections and 4 leaders of losing LOL As opposed you some of you here that reads facebook for the truth??? LOL C'mon Dude...get real LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Reg Volk Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 Yes, it will be fun seeing the Liberals in opposition, and Pierre as the new PM. He's going to be one of the best since Wilfrid Laurier. Go Pierre!! 4 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Yup...blame the media for 11+ years and 4 elections and 4 leaders of losing LOL As opposed you some of you here that reads facebook for the truth??? LOL C'mon Dude...get real LOL The Liberals have lost three elections in a row, and have had to depend on the stupidity of the NDP to keep their tyrannical grip on power, including pushing through their fascist and illegal EA. The majority of Canadians do not want a Liberal government in this country. 1 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
Barquentine Posted March 10 Author Report Posted March 10 20 hours ago, ironstone said: You can't think of any way that we are demonstrably better off right now? It's happening. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/port-vancouver-2025-cargo-volumes-9.7121516 The Vancouver Fraser Port Authority says a record amount of cargo flowed through its terminals last year as shippers sought to grow overseas markets far from an increasingly protectionist United States. Freight volumes at the Port of Vancouver rose eight per cent to 170.4 million tonnes in 2025, according to the port authority. The boost was driven by surging exports of grain, crude oil and potash as well as higher container and auto trade, all of which reached record levels. A bumper crop allowed wheat shipments to push bulk grain exports to a record high, with western Canadian wheat reaching 35 countries last year in regions ranging from the Indo-Pacific to the Middle East. 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 19 hours ago, Reg Volk said: Yes, it will be fun seeing the Liberals in opposition, and Pierre as the new PM. He's going to be one of the best since Wilfrid Laurier. Go Pierre!! The Liberals have lost three elections in a row, and have had to depend on the stupidity of the NDP to keep their tyrannical grip on power, including pushing through their fascist and illegal EA. The majority of Canadians do not want a Liberal government in this country. Yeah but, they are still the government ...PP could not get anyone except base conservatives to support him and he is...again, in second place LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
LinkSoul60 Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 Poilievre is losing votes every time he talks...which is hard to do considering not many vote for him anyway....unless of course you have to go to a riding 3 provinces over to secure a seat. He'll never change..... can't answer simple questions other than....'look what the liberals did the last 10 years'...'Mark Carney promised this'...'it's the liberals fault'. Great, answer the questions clown... He's a year behind in everything he wants to talk about because looking in the rear view mirror is all he has and his only schtick. Why conservative members would vote to keep someone in the leadership role that continually polls below the party is mind boggling. Small wonder we've had a liberal gov the last 11 years and why we'll have one for most likely another 11 years. Find something better Con's.... 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 The CBC's lies and slander campaign against Poilievre didn't work, and "gotcha" questions against Poilievre have always backfired, so their last resort is to just pump out fake polling data like Iran chucking out ballistic missiles. FYI PM flip-flop, the guy says "elbows up" and then goes to WH and orders pillows for lunch, and then changed his position on the Iran war 4 times in 4 days, is not a viable candidate. He's a feckless weasel who still puts Brookfield ahead of Canada. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Goddess Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 On 3/8/2026 at 1:35 PM, herbie said: he means an Opposition interested what's good for the country They have a whole platform on this. The Liberals have brought in mass amounts of immigrants without increasing housing, schools, hospitals, jobs. They let 700 IRGC members into the country. Some of them "willfully" collaborate with China and India against the interests of Canadians. They brought in Bill C-75 that lets rapists and pedos out on the streets as soon as possible. They've strangled our resources and industry. The deficits and wasteful spending is skyrocketing. You seriously think any of this been "good for the country"? 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
herbie Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 2 hours ago, Goddess said: They have a whole platform on this. No they don't, they've got diddly squat other than cutting taxes and deregulation the same old shit. Passing off anti-environment policies as a climate plan, suckering the stupid that ugtting their own source of revenue won't mean huge service cuts, the outright lie of a claim that they are the party of the working people. A party of whiners, traitors and 19th century thinkers. 1 Quote
Moonbox Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 4 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Why conservative members would vote to keep someone in the leadership role that continually polls below the party is mind boggling. Small wonder we've had a liberal gov the last 11 years and why we'll have one for most likely another 11 years. Find something better Con's.... It's the same it's always been. The party is too fractuous and too focused on appealing to the dumbest and/or most entrenched part of the base that they forget they still need to win a general election. Harper understood the dynamic and muzzled the bubbas and the conspiracy theorists in his party. Poilievre validates and enables them. Harper understood that his ruthless debate and rhetorical style alienated Canadians and adjusted his image. Poilievre isn't nearly as reflective or dynamic. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
LinkSoul60 Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 6 minutes ago, Moonbox said: It's the same it's always been. The party is too fractuous and too focused on appealing to the dumbest and/or most entrenched part of the base that they forget they still need to win a general election. Harper understood the dynamic and muzzled the bubbas and the conspiracy theorists in his party. Poilievre validates and enables them. Harper understood that his ruthless debate and rhetorical style alienated Canadians and adjusted his image. Poilievre isn't nearly as reflective or dynamic. You are spot on. Whether you voted conservative or not it's been crystal clear for at least a year now that Poilievre has needed to change his approach... but he's simply not capable of that. Why he continues to think he needs to appeal to those dumbest/Maga types is mind boggling given the overwhelming national pushback being against that mindset and rhetoric is beyond me. When you have a large part of the party still pining for Harper and those years, it certainly doesn't say much for Poilievre and the present. 1 Quote
Moonbox Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 4 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: You are spot on. Whether you voted conservative or not it's been crystal clear for at least a year now that Poilievre has needed to change his approach... but he's simply not capable of that. He probably is capable...but I think it's too late for him to do it and have it be believable. The guy isn't some new hotness coming to Canadian politics. He's a lifelong politician who's been around forever. Everyone knows who he is and what he's about. Even 15 years ago he was widely disliked. Opinions on him have crystalized and he's not going to convince the middle ground he's a new man at this point. It's not him who needs to change. I think he's probably a lame duck at this point. It's the overall party that needs to wake up. 4 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Why he continues to think he needs to appeal to those dumbest/Maga types is mind boggling given the overwhelming national pushback being against that mindset and rhetoric is beyond me. He needs to because too much of the country can't stand him and that's not likely to change. His strategy appears to be firming up the support he has and strengthening the margins rather than reaching out. He's relying on things going poorly for Carney for any turnaround. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
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