Nationalist Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: We're really at the precipice of banning liberalism, I guess. There we go... It's no longer Liberalism. Its Anarchy. No real Liberal would throw open the borders and publicly proclaim they are not open. No real Liberal would try to convince the public it's good to glorify transsexuals to young kids. No real Liberal would knowingly lie about the planetary climate to create fear and panic. Hence..."Libbies". Anarchistic, power hungry, hateful, little social deviants who desperately want to tear the world apart with fear and destruction. Look around Mike. Analyze the actions of these twits. Can you really conclude they produce anything but destruction? 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Michael Hardner Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 23 minutes ago, Nationalist said: 1. It's no longer Liberalism. Its Anarchy. No real Liberal would throw open the borders and publicly proclaim they are not open. No real Liberal would try to convince the public it's good to glorify transsexuals to young kids. No real Liberal would knowingly lie about the planetary climate to create fear and panic. 2. Hence..."Libbies". Anarchistic, power hungry, hateful, little social deviants who desperately want to tear the world apart with fear and destruction. 3. Look around Mike. Analyze the actions of these twits. Can you really conclude they produce anything but destruction? 1. So you're saying that the other side is dishonest. And they say the same thing. I trust that the people can decide, in a public sphere with good sources and honest leadership. 2. I would say we're in an era of persona-based. Tribalism. Not based on race, or you wouldn't have Patel as a major Republican or Bill Clinton as a major Democrat. It's persona based but still Us versus them. 3. I'm a rationalist, humanist and a bit of a positivist. As such, I don't think either side of the... Let's face it.... American-based political divide owns a monopoly on correctness. I do think the arena in which the public sphere hashes all of this out is broken. Or maybe in a state of transition. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Barquentine Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 9 hours ago, John Johnston said: Maybe they are all mired in Victimhood, Entitlement & Grievance Perfect description of MAGA. Poor whiny white dudes with no education, can't get laid - perfect patsies for demagogues. The people they vote for are screwing them and they're too dumb to see it. Must be those Trans Freaks to blame for all their problems. wordpress.com/2021/08/27/why-do-people-vote-against-their-self-interest/ "Consider Owsley County, Kentucky, where 46% of the population is on government assistance and yet 88.1% of the county voted Republican – the party that consistently reduces funding to programs providing government assistance. How can that be?" https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201903/why-do-some-poor-people-vote-against-their-interests "When poor people put their faith in conservative leadership, one might ask why they trust representatives of a wealthy owner class that will likely never include them. Yet there is a rationale based on the emotion of fear." Quote
Nationalist Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. So you're saying that the other side is dishonest. And they say the same thing. I trust that the people can decide, in a public sphere with good sources and honest leadership. 2. I would say we're in an era of persona-based. Tribalism. Not based on race, or you wouldn't have Patel as a major Republican or Bill Clinton as a major Democrat. It's persona based but still Us versus them. 3. I'm a rationalist, humanist and a bit of a positivist. As such, I don't think either side of the... Let's face it.... American-based political divide owns a monopoly on correctness. I do think the arena in which the public sphere hashes all of this out is broken. Or maybe in a state of transition. 1. Indeed they do. Yet...what lies? Did they open the borders and lie about it? Yes. Did they lie about the impacts of climate change? Yes. Did they lie about ICE doing it's job? Yes. Yet...the claim is that Conservatives have lied. When? About what? 2. Agreed. A battle between common sense and insanity. Building vs. Destroying. Reality vs. fantasy. 3. Mike this is not "American-based". If this culture war is based on any one place, its Europe...where they allowed millions of Muslims to flood the continent and created social division. America just elevated the insanity. Edited March 3 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
John Johnston Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Perfect description of MAGA. Poor whiny white dudes with no education, can't get laid - perfect patsies for demagogues. The people they vote for are screwing them and they're too dumb to see it. Must be those Trans Freaks to blame for all their problems. wordpress.com/2021/08/27/why-do-people-vote-against-their-self-interest/ "Consider Owsley County, Kentucky, where 46% of the population is on government assistance and yet 88.1% of the county voted Republican – the party that consistently reduces funding to programs providing government assistance. How can that be?" https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201903/why-do-some-poor-people-vote-against-their-interests "When poor people put their faith in conservative leadership, one might ask why they trust representatives of a wealthy owner class that will likely never include them. Yet there is a rationale based on the emotion of fear." Indeed. One of the biggest mysteries in politics to be sure. Moise Ostrogorski was a Belorussian political sociologist. In 1902, he published the classic Democracy and the Organization of Political Parties, after studying US and British parties. The book is quite pessimistic on mass political parties and their tendency to devolve into corrupt, top-heavy bureaucracies — a theme developed further by the Italian Robert Michels in his 1915 book Political Parties, which is remembered for its “iron law of oligarchy.” (The “iron law” is that all organizations, including political parties, eventually become oligarchic). Same thing here in North America now. Quote
John Johnston Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 The people who tend to do the most complaining in life tend to do the least in life. Quote
Nationalist Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Perfect description of MAGA. Poor whiny white dudes with no education, can't get laid - perfect patsies for demagogues. The people they vote for are screwing them and they're too dumb to see it. Must be those Trans Freaks to blame for all their problems. wordpress.com/2021/08/27/why-do-people-vote-against-their-self-interest/ "Consider Owsley County, Kentucky, where 46% of the population is on government assistance and yet 88.1% of the county voted Republican – the party that consistently reduces funding to programs providing government assistance. How can that be?" https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201903/why-do-some-poor-people-vote-against-their-interests "When poor people put their faith in conservative leadership, one might ask why they trust representatives of a wealthy owner class that will likely never include them. Yet there is a rationale based on the emotion of fear." Ya you keep telling yourself that. In the meantime, real men will continue to enjoy the affections of beautiful women and you nerds will continue to attract the leftovers. Edited March 3 by Nationalist 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ironstone Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 (edited) I wonder how many times, if at all, anyone posting in here has been swayed by the better evidence/logic and switched positions on a particular topic? Generally, it is one side that keeps moving...more and more to the left. Notice the anger in so many of the responses from leftists in here? Edited March 3 by ironstone 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
Deluge Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 13 hours ago, John Johnston said: Shhhh. Drink your Koolaid little boy. Adults are talking. Juan Juanston drinks coffee to make itself appear more mature, the silly cultist. 13 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: I am at a loss as to why we should debate, engage or in any way acknowledge anyone on the left. They have supported assainations and assaination attempts. They refuse to acknowledge the left wing terrorism problem that plagues the world. They are chronically wrong almost to the point that you have to assume it is intentional. They refuse to acknowledge reality. They play childish games. They are emotionally and intellectually dishonest on every front. They are irrational. Yet, somehow these brats keep getting attention. Why do we let them drive conversation. They are inconsequential trash. Take them to the landfill and let them go. I hate that I am at this point, but I just don't see a way forward where liberals/the left play a meaningful role. If they do, it will be highly destructive. I engage these degenerates because they need to understand they are just that: perverts. We know they're always wrong, so why not have some fun watching the vermin scatter when you turn the lights on? Quote
Nationalist Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 2 hours ago, John Johnston said: The people who tend to do the most complaining in life tend to do the least in life. I agree. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Michael Hardner Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: 1. Indeed they do. Yet...what lies? Did they open the borders and lie about it? Yes. Did they lie about the impacts of climate change? Yes. Did they lie about ICE doing it's job? Yes. Yet...the claim is that Conservatives have lied. When? About what? 1. I don't like using the term lie. If you thought the conservatives lied, you wouldn't back that up. Would you? And yet both sides excuse the other of lying Climate change is real. Some exaggerate the threat, others call it a hoax Are these lies? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
User Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 3 hours ago, John Johnston said: The people who tend to do the most complaining in life tend to do the least in life. Well, you are complaining a lot on here…. Quote
Legato Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 11 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Climate change is real. That depends on whether one accepts the fact that the climate is, always has, always will be changing. Please stop throwing money at it in a vain attempt to get it to stop. The Carney's of this world are not Liberals but are greedy men hell bent on feathering their own nest and to hell with the rest of us, and yet there are those who genuflect at the mere sound of Liberal incompetence. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 13 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. I don't like using the term lie. If you thought the conservatives lied, you wouldn't back that up. Would you? And yet both sides excuse the other of lying Climate change is real. Some exaggerate the threat, others call it a hoax Are these lies? Ok...how's misinformation suit you? Conservatives engaged in misinformation about globalism. That was Harper's doing I believe? Many engaged in misinformation concerning the Ukraine war...and this shiney new one in Iran. Some called climate change a hoax...which we see it isn't. I tend to give those folks a pass on that one because the global efforts to rectify something we know is not a very pressing issue, were nonsense and frankly...destructive. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 5 hours ago, Nationalist said: It's no longer Liberalism. Its Anarchy. No real Liberal would throw open the borders and publicly proclaim they are not open. No real Liberal would try to convince the public it's good to glorify transsexuals to young kids. No real Liberal would knowingly lie about the planetary climate to create fear and panic. Hence..."Libbies". Anarchistic, power hungry, hateful, little social deviants who desperately want to tear the world apart with fear and destruction. Look around Mike. Analyze the actions of these twits. Can you really conclude they produce anything but destruction? Thanks for demonstrating just how INSANE you are. I never knew you were ^this unhinged, though you have been descending into madness lately with your repeated pretense that you get to decide who is a traitor to a country that's not even yours. LMAO Quote
Nationalist Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Thanks for demonstrating just how INSANE you are. I never knew you were ^this unhinged, though you have been descending into madness lately with your repeated pretense that you get to decide who is a traitor to a country that's not even yours. LMAO Hi ANTIFA goof. Had your zucchini today? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 15 hours ago, Reg Volk said: They have one main role - and that is to remind us daily that evil still exists in the world. That's about it. Is this evilness, or mental illness, or both? My guess is indoctrination, but I suppose it could be evilness and mental illness or maybe a combination of all three. Quote
robosmith Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: 1. Indeed they do. Yet...what lies? Did they open the borders and lie about it? Yes. ^This is YOUR LIE. Allowing a sizeable fraction to apply for ASYUM while deporting the rest is NOT "open borders." Duh 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Did they lie about the impacts of climate change? Yes. Scientists making faulty PREDICTIONS is NOT LYING, because they have a good faith belief that the models are the BEST WE HAVE. FAR BETTER than your plan to wait until certainty makes mitigation TOO LATE, just because you're so damn CHEAP. 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Did they lie about ICE doing it's job? Yes. The FACT is ICE is NOT conforming to legitimate LEO practices. Esp when they detain citizens to collect their BONUS. 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Yet...the claim is that Conservatives have lied. When? About what? YOU'VE LIED in ^this very post. 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: 2. Agreed. A battle between common sense and insanity. Building vs. Destroying. Reality vs. fantasy. You're dropout who never studied science but believe you know better than the majority of climatologists. That makes YOU the fantasist. 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: 3. Mike this is not "American-based". If this culture war is based on any one place, its Europe...where they allowed millions of Muslims to flood the continent and created social division. America just elevated the insanity. Truly ^INSANE. Quote
robosmith Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 7 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Hi ANTIFA goof. Had your zucchini today? HI FASCIST. Never had zucchini and it's beyond me why YOU are obsessed with a vegetable. Just like WCM is obsessed with CNN. LMAO Quote
Deluge Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 14 hours ago, eyeball said: After 50 years of having done absolutely nothing except píss and moan about commies infiltrating and corrupting virtually every level of government in the land it's a damn good question. I'm not pissing and moaning, I'm just trying to help you understand that you're a left-wing lunatic. Quote
Deluge Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: HI FASCIST. Never had zucchini and it's beyond me why YOU are obsessed with a vegetable. Just like WCM is obsessed with CNN. LMAO Hi, fascist. Why are trying to help black and brown people replace white people in a country that was settled by white people? Quote
User Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 10 hours ago, Hodad said: My theory is that you understand deep down that there's an entire world outside of you algorithmically crafted info bubble, so you occasionally peek your head out to see. But you're not really prepared to deal with facts, reality or real debate, so you throw a tantrum like this. "Wouldn't it be easier if everyone just agrees with me, like on Twitter?" This is comical coming from the person who is cowardly hiding from me. Quote
Reg Volk Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 exactly. The Left just plain sucks. 1 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
Michael Hardner Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 45 minutes ago, Nationalist said: 1. Ok...how's misinformation suit you? 2. Conservatives engaged in misinformation about globalism. That was Harper's doing I believe? Many engaged in misinformation concerning the Ukraine war...and this shiney new one in Iran. Some called climate change a hoax...which we see it isn't. I tend to give those folks a pass on that one because the global efforts to rectify something we know is not a very pressing issue, were nonsense and frankly...destructive. 1. Yes, that's better. 2. Ok well you seem to say both sides do it, which I agree with. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Nationalist Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 14 minutes ago, robosmith said: ^This is YOUR LIE. Allowing a sizeable fraction to apply for ASYUM while deporting the rest is NOT "open borders." Duh Scientists making faulty PREDICTIONS is NOT LYING, because they have a good faith belief that the models are the BEST WE HAVE. FAR BETTER than your plan to wait until certainty makes mitigation TOO LATE, just because you're so damn CHEAP. The FACT is ICE is NOT conforming to legitimate LEO practices. Esp when they detain citizens to collect their BONUS. YOU'VE LIED in ^this very post. You're dropout who never studied science but believe you know better than the majority of climatologists. That makes YOU the fantasist. Truly ^INSANE. See @Michael Hardner? Now...admittedly the poster here is an ANTIFA goof but...I'm sure you understand the point here. 17 minutes ago, robosmith said: Allowing a sizeable fraction to apply for ASYUM while deporting the rest is NOT "open borders" Allow this to roll about in your head. A sizable fraction. Its hilarious. Here's your sizable fraction. and here's the results. But it's only a "sizable fraction" ... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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