Liberals refuse to deport criminal migrants.

[blackbird]

What is wrong with these liberals?  A dangerous repeat offender who claimed "refugee status" is still in Canada because the Liberal immigration minister did not sign a deportation order.

Why?  What is wrong with these political leaders?  What are they thinking?   Is it something to do with who votes for Liberals?

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By the time repeat violent offender Oral Carver Lewis threatened to kill an Ontario Crown prosecutor, he had already been under a deportation order for two years.

“You b–ch, I’m going to kill you,” he told her during court in January 2022. “You watch, I’m going to f–king kill you…. When I get out of jail, I’m going to kill you, Crown. I’m going to find you and kill you. I’m going to kill you the f–k.” A few months earlier, he made vulgar comments to her and pulled his pants down in court, exposing himself.

It wasn’t just a threat against a woman doing her job; it was an attack on our entire justice system. Enough of these people will cause it to collapse. Indeed, Lewis should have been ejected years before, after his forays into domestic violence, robbery, armed assault, and his stack of weapon bans that never seem to deter him from racking up more weapons charges.

Fast forward to 2026, and Lewis is still here. Despite the deportation order that looms over him, he’s undeportable because he is a protected person — a refugee whose asylum claim was accepted by Canadian officials. The law, as it is currently written , requires the Canada Border Services Agency to have special permission from the immigration minister to deport criminals with protected person status.

No immigration minister has ever given the CBSA the green light to send Lewis home.

Lewis’ case should be an easy call. Originally from the Caribbean island of St. Vincent, he came to Canada at age 33 and decided to stay. He was arrested in 2009 for working without a permit and made an asylum claim that same year. In his application, he stated that he was gay — but a court recently noted that “he denies being gay and states that he claimed being gay in order to stay in Canada.” Alas, immigration officials didn’t detect fraud, and he was granted protected person status in 2010.  unquote

Jamie Sarkonak: Immigration minister's refusal to deport knifepoint robber is another justice failure

Yet, when there is a tragedy such as a mass shooting the liberals are all in on expressing their condolences to the victim's families and everyone else.   But when it comes to the soft-on-crime laws, repeat release of dangerous offenders, easy bail, small sentences for serious crimes,  or in this case, deporting criminal migrants and criminal immigrants.  they have done very little or nothing to change things.

There are endless examples of soft-on-crime cases.  

Semi driver who killed man after running through rural Manitoba stop sign sentenced to house arrest

Edited February 11 by blackbird

[ironstone]

I asked the question, 'in the last ten years, how many people have been ordered deported from Canada, and how many have been physically deported.

With the exception of one year, the answer is 'data not publicly detailed'.

Total Orders and Physical Deportations

Year	Deportation Orders	Physical Deportations
2019-2020	11,584	Data not publicly detailed
2020-2021	7,530	Data not publicly detailed
2021-2022	10,240	Data not publicly detailed
2022-2023	16,343	Data not publicly detailed
2023-2024	18,048	Data not publicly detailed
2024-2025	18,048	18,048
2025-2026 (projected)	13,131	Data not publicly detailed

[TreeBeard]

53 minutes ago, ironstone said:

I asked the question, 'in the last ten years, how many people have been ordered deported from Canada, and how many have been physically deported.

With the exception of one year, the answer is 'data not publicly detailed'.

Total Orders and Physical Deportations

Year	Deportation Orders	Physical Deportations
2019-2020	11,584	Data not publicly detailed
2020-2021	7,530	Data not publicly detailed
2021-2022	10,240	Data not publicly detailed
2022-2023	16,343	Data not publicly detailed
2023-2024	18,048	Data not publicly detailed
2024-2025	18,048	18,048
2025-2026 (projected)	13,131	Data not publicly detailed

The one year with data shows that everyone was deported who was supposed to be and that deportation orders are increasing, not decreasing like @blackbird is claiming. 

[herbie]

What us with people who think political parties deport people or decide their immigration status?

 

[blackbird]

38 minutes ago, herbie said:

What us with people who think political parties deport people or decide their immigration status?

 

When a migrant criminal suspect claims refugee status, the minister of immigration must sign a deportation order.  Maybe try reading the news article.

Also the Liberal government makes the laws and policies.  Thought you knew that much.

Wow, back to school.

 

Edited February 11 by blackbird

[ironstone]

5 hours ago, herbie said:

What us with people who think political parties deport people or decide their immigration status?

 

There have even been cases where migrants that have committed crimes had their sentences reduced so they would not face deportation.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/lilley-conservatives-call-end-two-211321930.html

The government doesn't really keep tabs on where non-citizens are so I take the deportation figures posted by the government with a grain of salt.

"Immigration Minister wants department to tract exits of temporary residents" This implies that this government is not actually keeping track of them now and whether they've left or are still here.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/immigration-minister-wants-department-track-110013929.html

"We are restoring control back to our immigration system. And we are returning us back to sustainability," Diab said.

This statement is basically an admission that Liberal immigration policy for the last ten years was unsustainable.

 

[User]

10 hours ago, blackbird said:

What is wrong with these liberals?  A dangerous repeat offender who claimed "refugee status" is still in Canada because the Liberal immigration minister did not sign a deportation order.

Why?  What is wrong with these political leaders?  What are they thinking?   Is it something to do with who votes for Liberals?

So, down in the American side of the forum, you cheer on the lawbreaking and condemn the enforcement, and then in your own country, you criticize them for not deporting people. 

What is wrong with you?!

[Political Smash]

They work against the citizens of Canada conspiring with the WEF to escalate chaos so the WEF can assume control.

[I am Groot]

On 2/11/2026 at 2:23 PM, herbie said:

What us with people who think political parties deport people or decide their immigration status?

They're intelligent enough to realize that since the government appoints the judges, including the immigration review board judges, and also appoints the refugee panels, and also sets the rules and regulations, that the government indeed has a heavy-handed say in immigration status.

[ExFlyer]

On 2/11/2026 at 8:02 PM, ironstone said:

There have even been cases where migrants that have committed crimes had their sentences reduced so they would not face deportation.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/lilley-conservatives-call-end-two-211321930.html

The government doesn't really keep tabs on where non-citizens are so I take the deportation figures posted by the government with a grain of salt.

"Immigration Minister wants department to tract exits of temporary residents" This implies that this government is not actually keeping track of them now and whether they've left or are still here.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/immigration-minister-wants-department-track-110013929.html

"We are restoring control back to our immigration system. And we are returning us back to sustainability," Diab said.

This statement is basically an admission that Liberal immigration policy for the last ten years was unsustainable.

 

And that same immigration policy/system has been in place for decades...not just the past 10 years

 

[blackbird]

"In an astonishing statement to the New York Times in 2015, Justin Trudeau declared, "There is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada,'' and consequently that "makes us the first post-national state."

Liberals appear to believe Canada is not a sovereign country, but belongs to the U.N. and is some kind of global state.  They seem to believe Canada belongs to the rest of the world, especially the third world where most of the criminal migrants came from.  Therefore they believe illegal migrants can stay here no matter what.

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"Trudeau said, to conclude the interview with the Times, "I'm excited to be on the world stage." And continued, ''I think people are starting to see that I'm actually reasonably fit for this office.''  "

"Brian Mulroney, one of our nation's elder statesmen, recently offered Trudeau some wisdom: It's the job of the Canadian prime minister to look after Canada first and the rest of the world next."

Trudeau's neglect of the nation has led us to this place | CBC News

As PM Carney is a well-known globalist who held and may still hold major globalist positions such as in the Vatican, World Economic Forum, and other associations, it is fair to say he may think along the same lines as Trudeau as Canada's place in the world.  He may not view Canada as a real sovereign nation, but more as a part of a larger U.N. global state.  That means everyone in other countries within this U.N. imaginary state are all citizens of the same global entity.   I see that as the main reason these criminal migrants are not being deported.  It is to appease the globalist friends in those countries and demonstrate Liberal commitment to globalism or one world government.

 

 

[WestCanMan]

On 2/11/2026 at 8:22 AM, blackbird said:

What is wrong with these liberals?  A dangerous repeat offender who claimed "refugee status" is still in Canada because the Liberal immigration minister did not sign a deportation order.

Nothing is 'wrong' with them, they're doing what they were elected to do: keep criminals on our streets.

Leftists in NA:

1. support violent rioting, even when it's based on blatantly false narratives like Gentle Giant 1, Gentle Giant V2.0, 'shot for sleeping black', Rayshard can shoot a taser at someone's face and that doesn't constitute a gunfight, etc
2. support low bail or no-bail for violent rioters and violent criminals
3. support the violent assaults and even murders of police officers, as long as it's done by left-wing rioters
4. support defunding police
5. support abolishing ICE
6. support terrorism against Israel
7. support terrorism by the gov't of Iran against tens of thousands of its people
8. support the right of violent criminals to sneak into the country and stay

It would be weird to support 1 thru 8 there, but be in favour of kicking people out for committing violent crimes in this country.

What makes it worse for someone to commit a violent crime against a Canadian than against someone in their own country before they move here?

Eg, let's say that two brothers are about to sneak across our border. Bro A beats someone to a pulp in NY State before they leave. Bro B does the same thing to someone on this side of the Roxham Rd crossing, just two days later.

Why should Bro A be allowed to stay when Bro B has to go?

[CITIZEN_2015]

Anyone not born in Canada, immigrant or citizen, and convicted of a violent crime must be punished first in Canada and then deported to the hellhole they come from after serving the sentence. People cannot come here and then commit violent crimes against people in Canada. Sent them back.

[TreeBeard]

On 2/14/2026 at 5:46 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Anyone not born in Canada, immigrant or citizen

It would be unconstitutional to deport a citizen. 

[CITIZEN_2015]

14 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

It would be unconstitutional to deport a citizen. 

Change the constitution. Those migrated to Canada will be deported at any time after serving the sentence if they commit violent crime.

[TreeBeard]

3 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Change the constitution. Those migrated to Canada will be deported at any time after serving the sentence if they commit violent crime.

No.  Won’t happen. It’s a really silly concept to deport citizens who may have been here since they were a child and have no other citizenship, despite not being born here.  
 

Your idea is unworkable and unrealistic.  

[I am Groot]

19 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

It would be unconstitutional to deport a citizen. 

Remove their citizenship, then deport them.

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

No.  Won’t happen. It’s a really silly concept to deport citizens who may have been here since they were a child and have no other citizenship, despite not being born here.  
 

Your idea is unworkable and unrealistic.  

If they came here from elsewhere, they almost certainly have citizenship there. I have Briish citizenship despite not even being born there.

[I am Groot]

The Liberals are letting in and accepting asylum applications from people without even bothering to interview them. Why? because it's easier.

Negative decisions – rejecting asylum claims – consume time and resources because they must be carefully written in anticipation of appeal. By contrast, positive decisions can be made rapidly and in large numbers. The IRB developed a policy called “File Review,” which allowed asylum claims to be rapidly accepted in large numbers from a list of countries on the basis of the untested written application and documents in each file, and without refugees being questioned at a hearing. The policy appears to have been implemented unilaterally, without the approval of ministers or cabinet. For example, between January, 2019, and February, 2023, 24,599 asylum claimants were accepted without being asked a single question.

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-canada-has-a-hidden-asylum-policy-problem/

[TreeBeard]

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Remove their citizenship, then deport them.

There is no legal mechanism to remove citizenship from someone unless their citizenship was obtained through fraud.  It would be unconstitutional.  Try and deal with reality. 

[ironstone]

On 2/17/2026 at 10:22 PM, TreeBeard said:

There is no legal mechanism to remove citizenship from someone unless their citizenship was obtained through fraud.  It would be unconstitutional.  Try and deal with reality. 

Search engine says there are more reasons than fraud to justify stripping someone of citizenship. 

Grounds for Stripping Canadian Citizenship
1. Fraudulent Acquisition
If a person obtained their citizenship through fraud, misrepresentation, or concealment of material facts, the government can revoke citizenship.

2. Terrorism and National Security
Citizenship can be stripped if an individual is found to be involved in terrorist activities or actions that compromise national security. This includes membership in groups that are involved in these activities.

3. War Crimes or Crimes Against Humanity
Individuals who are found to have engaged in war crimes or crimes against humanity may have their citizenship revoked.

4. Dual Citizenship
For individuals who hold dual citizenship, if they are convicted of specific offenses that threaten national security, they may lose their Canadian citizenship, depending on their circumstances.

Legal Framework
The relevant legal framework is outlined in the Citizenship Act, particularly sections related to revocation of citizenship. The process typically involves a formal investigation and due process, allowing the affected individuals the right to appeal the decision.

This framework ensures that revocation of citizenship is not arbitrary but is based on substantial legal grounds aligned with protecting national security and integrity of the law.

[ironstone]

Toronto hate crime suspect denied refugee status in 2018

One of the Toronto men recently charged following an investigation into alleged hate and extremism-motivated crimes targeting women and Jews was denied refugee status more than seven years ago, according to court records.

Government records obtained by Global News show that Osman Azizov is an Azerbaijani citizen who, accompanied by his parents, crossed into Canada between official border points near Lacolle, Que., in 2017.

The Immigration and Refugee Board rejected the Azizov family’s asylum claims in 2018, the Refugee Appeal Division denied their appeal, and the Federal Court declined to review the case in 2019, the records indicate.

But Azizov was nonetheless living in Toronto when he was arrested in August for allegedly trying to kidnap three women at gunpoint. Police announced the charges on Dec. 19, saying some were “motivated by hate.”

The 19-year-old and his co-accused, Farad Sadaat, 19, and Waleed Khan, 26, face almost 80 charges. Khan has also been charged with terrorism offences that allege he is a supporter of the Islamic State.

There is no public record explaining why Azizov was still living in Toronto so long after his bid for refugee status failed, and neither the police nor his lawyer would comment.

But a friend told Global News that after the family’s refugee claims were unsuccessful, they applied to stay in Canada on humanitarian and compassionate grounds and were accepted last year.

It's pretty difficult to actually get deported out of Canada.

https://globalnews.ca/news/11592707/osman-azizov-refugee-claim-refused-hate-extremism/

Edited February 19 by ironstone

[ironstone]

Even with a record of entering Canada under a false identity, it doesn't mean that the person in question can't still just re-enter. If at first you don't succeed, try try again.

Immigrant who came to Canada using a false identity wins another shot at retaining citizenship

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/immigrant-who-came-to-canada-using-a-false-identity-wins-another-shot-at-retaining-citizenship

[I am Groot]

On 2/17/2026 at 10:22 PM, TreeBeard said:

There is no legal mechanism to remove citizenship from someone unless their citizenship was obtained through fraud.  It would be unconstitutional.  Try and deal with reality. 

So write one. It used to be a part of law that we could remove citizenship from people convicted of treason, espionage, or terrorism. Put it back in place and add other grounds for removal, like conviction of serious crimes. 

41 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Even with a record of entering Canada under a false identity, it doesn't mean that the person in question can't still just re-enter. If at first you don't succeed, try try again.

Immigrant who came to Canada using a false identity wins another shot at retaining citizenship

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/immigrant-who-came-to-canada-using-a-false-identity-wins-another-shot-at-retaining-citizenship

Our immigration law is a bureaucratic mess. It should be rewritten in plain and simple language and passed using the Notwithstanding clause to keep social activist judges away from it. 

[CITIZEN_2015]

On 2/17/2026 at 4:34 PM, TreeBeard said:

No.  Won’t happen. It’s a really silly concept to deport citizens who may have been here since they were a child and have no other citizenship, despite not being born here.  
 

Your idea is unworkable and unrealistic.  

Right now we do it for up to 3 years for landed immigrants. Just extend that time.

[I am Groot]

On 2/17/2026 at 10:22 PM, TreeBeard said:

There is no legal mechanism to remove citizenship from someone unless their citizenship was obtained through fraud.  It would be unconstitutional.  Try and deal with reality. 

The Constitution says absolutely nothing about the grounds for removing citizenship. You're not a judge, so you don't get to make up the law as you go along. If we can remove the citizenship of an immigrant for treason or fraud, then we can do so for other crimes.

19 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Right now we do it for up to 3 years for landed immigrants. Just extend that time.

The UK has now made it ten years before you can apply for citizenship. For migrants (boat people) it's 15 years.