Mass shooting at high school in Tumbler Ridge BC - Nine dead 27 injured

[Legato]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

So for the record there is ZERO evidence that the shooter is trans or has anything to do with trans and nobody has suggested that. 
 

 

The information is there for all to see, and yet you make this ridiculous statement. More evidence that the left bent beyond recognition.

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, Legato said:

The information is there for all to see, and yet you make this ridiculous statement. More evidence that the left bent beyond recognition.

Now now, as you're well aware denial is the first stage of loss when a left winger watches their ideology die, let them go through the stage and carry on to anger where it's all our fault and or the guns.  They will finally reach acceptance, at which point "why are we even talking about this?" 

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, User said:

For the record, you are full of shit as usual. This is the problem with the media lying, as it will take a bit for the truth to finally be verified, but folks are in fact talking about this.

EXCLUSIVE: Family confirms identity of trans Tumbler Ridge school shooter

https://www.junonews.com/p/exclusive-family-confirms-identity
 

Then go talk to them, you are talking to me. 

 

Nope.
 

Juno News is not a actual news site it is right wing propaganda outlet 

 

Same with the links posted by @I am Groot and @Legatoand @ironstone  Not ONE ACTUAL news outlet or authority has confirmed anything, only openly partisan right wing outlets. 
 

 

[Legato]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Now now, as you're well aware denial is the first stage of loss when a left winger watches their ideology die, let them go through the stage and carry on to anger where it's all our fault and or the guns.  They will finally reach acceptance, at which point "why are we even talking about this?" 

soon from the left there will be a transition from "not a trans person" to when are we going to ban "Double Semi-Fully Constant Velocity Automatic Triple Assault Extremely Long Scary Black AK 15's.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Legato said:

soon from the left there will be a transition from "not a trans person" to when are we going to ban "Double Semi-Fully Constant Velocity Automatic Triple Assault Extremely Long Scary Black AK 15's.

I believe that's stage 3, 'bargaining"   

Edited February 11 by CdnFox

[CdnFox]

"Jennifer Strang, the shooter’s mother, and sibling, Emmett, are among the victims, CTV News has confirmed."

I don't know why but somehow that makes it even more sad.  Slaughtered the family before going on to kill fellow students. 

Looking more and more like a complete mental breakdown and not just 'revenge'. If that's true we probably wont' even get a note explaining why. 

[Legato]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I believe that's stage 3, 'bargaining"   

Yes the old phrase "enter stage left" is aptly applied here.

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

He was a chubby guy with a dick. Is that good enough?

Began identifying as a girl two years ago. As an adult. Seriously? That's not how reality works. Those rare people born with gender dysphoria know it at a VERY early age. They don't suddenly 'discover' they're a girl in their twenties. This is an unstable personality looking for an excuse for their failed life.

The statistics show that immigrants commit crimes at lower rate than the general population, not that emotional rage-farmers like yourself base your opinions on facts. 

[herbie]

Our resident wrong wingers are more concerned with sexual identities than mass killings.

A horrific incident and sympathies to all affected.

None what soever for those equating the action with rumours and unconfirmed reasons.

 

[User]

20 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Nope.
 

Juno News is not a actual news site it is right wing propaganda outlet 

 

Same with the links posted by @I am Groot and @Legatoand @ironstone  Not ONE ACTUAL news outlet or authority has confirmed anything, only openly partisan right wing outlets. 
 

 

Your usual dishonest tactics. You claimed there was no evidence and no one was suggesting this.

We show you otherwise and now you dishonestly change your position to questioning the sources.

 

3 minutes ago, herbie said:

Our resident wrong wingers are more concerned with sexual identities than mass killings.

A horrific incident and sympathies to all affected.

None what soever for those equating the action with rumours and unconfirmed reasons.

 

You are more concerned with pushing trans ideology and lies than honest reporting about a mass shooting….

 

[User]

Here you go @BeaverFever, is this legitimate enough for you now:

They say the suspect was born a biological male, transitioned to female, and identified as female

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cr5lnzqdr5pt

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

With the shooter dead getting to the why  is going to be really hard.

Why? The left wing obviously. It's such a slam dunk case it's practically closed already. 

This shooting must feel like a real vindication of everything you people been warning about for decades.

BTW, what's your solution? 

[CdnFox]

52 minutes ago, Legato said:

Yes the old phrase "enter stage left" is aptly applied here.

Are you calling them a bunch of snagglepussies? LOL

[Legato]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

Are you calling them a bunch of snagglepussies? LOL

That's too good a word, more "crumpledforeskins."

[CdnFox]

52 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

The statistics show that immigrants commit crimes at lower rate than the general population, not that emotional rage-farmers like yourself base your opinions on facts. 

Not in canada. The research is really bad. They acknowledge that immigrants are found guilty of and incarcerated more often but claim that is due to 'overpolicing' and systemic racism and such.  But the crimes are still real.  So their argument is that the problem isn't that they commit more crimes but that they are more likely to be caught for crimes they commit. 

But their evidence of that is unbelievably shaky. 

Further they tend to mix the immigrant stats in with areas of low immigration, different areas in canada have different crime rates so you can hide the facts if you blend it all together.  or you can focus very carefully on areas with low immigration and that's not reasonable either.

If you just look at the same geographic regions tho it's a different story. 

What we DO know is that depending on location and such if you compare similar population centers you see higher conviction rates for immigrants. The 'systemic' argument really hasn't been convincingly made yet. 

46 minutes ago, herbie said:

Our resident wrong wingers are more concerned with sexual identities than mass killings.

 

 

The left is the wrong wing  

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Why? The left wing obviously. It's such a slam dunk case it's practically closed already. 

Okay well if you're sure then we'll just carry forward assuming that the problem is left when ideology and their support of trans people.

Never really pegged you for anti-trans but, you always surprise

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This shooting must feel like a real vindication of everything you people been warning about for decades.

I don't remember warning anybody that trans people were going to go around shooting up schools? 

That may have been the voices in your head. You can sometimes get them confused with us.

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BTW, what's your solution? 

Well the challenge that I think we've run into in dealing with these issues he's trying to bury the fact that transgenderism is at the end of the day a mental health issue.

In most cases, not all but most, Transgenderism is accompanied by gender dysphoria. It goes hand in hand as much as some people would like to break it apart.

Gender dysphoria is a very serious mental health condition and it's more complicated than some people today like to think.

So what happens right now is if somebody expresses feelings of gender dysphoria the medical community simply says oh no problem we'll put you in a skirt and your problems are solved, there you're a girl now. I'll give you a few shots and grab my scissors and you won't be a man anymore no problem.

But that does not effectively treat the mental health issue, but if you dare to question or treat somebody or look into their gender too much then you are severely attacked and possibly in prison. 

So the solution I guess is reality. It is not mentally healthy for a boy to want to be a girl. That's a sign that something is wrong. It may be that the best solution is to not worry about it and just let them be a girl, but we have to have the right and the mental courage to seriously question if the person is just transgender or is suffering from gender dysphoria and come up with alternate treatments.

Because there's a lot of people just found out, you can still work a gun pretty well wearing a skirt

[CdnFox]

Geez this person was merciless.  Even shooting children. 

Girl, 12, 'fighting for her life' after Tumbler Ridge shooting | Toronto Sun

Shot a 12 year old girl in the head! WTF!! 

[eyeball]

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I don't remember warning anybody that trans people were going to go around shooting up schools? 

I'm talking about decades and decades of you people warning everyone about the left. Isn't that what's most pertinent here? You've got cause, motive even indoctrination, media manipulation and propaganda figured into the mix and we're only on page two barely 24 hours into this case.

15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So the solution I guess is reality. It is not mentally healthy for a boy to want to be a girl.

Seriously? What about the head of the snake though - the left? I mean, if this had been a right-wing incel it still would have been the left's fault for not allowing teachers to be armed.

 

[BeaverFever]

54 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Not in canada. The research is really bad. They acknowledge that immigrants are found guilty of and incarcerated more often but claim that is due to 'overpolicing' and systemic racism and such.  But the crimes are still real.  So their argument is that the problem isn't that they commit more crimes but that they are more likely to be caught for crimes they commit. 

But their evidence of that is unbelievably shaky. 

Further they tend to mix the immigrant stats in with areas of low immigration, different areas in canada have different crime rates so you can hide the facts if you blend it all together.  or you can focus very carefully on areas with low immigration and that's not reasonable either.

If you just look at the same geographic regions tho it's a different story. 

What we DO know is that depending on location and such if you compare similar population centers you see higher conviction rates for immigrants. The 'systemic' argument really hasn't been convincingly made yet. 

The left is the wrong wing  

You are confusing immigrants with black, indigenous and people of colour. These terms sre not synonymous 

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, User said:

Here you go @BeaverFever, is this legitimate enough for you now:

They say the suspect was born a biological male, transitioned to female, and identified as female

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cr5lnzqdr5pt

Ok there you go, authoties have confirmed it.  Still only a single digit talk of trans mass killings. Only Five transgender people have previously been implicated in Americas many mass shootings, which less than one tenth of one per cent (0.1%) of such shootings. The most prevalent demographic for these kinds of school and workplace mass shootings is still straight cisgender white male but I don’t hear you rant about those guys. 

[Canadaisintrouble]

Doesn't Carney have a transformer kid?

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

I'm talking about decades and decades of you people warning everyone about the left.

 

We don't even know for sure that  this person is left wing. And I don't recall ever warning you that left wing people were going to shoot up schools.

You're getting more and more delusional here buddy   I think a lot of the conversations that you have never actually happened

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

You've got cause, motive even indoctrination, media manipulation and propaganda figured into the mix and we're only on page two barely 24 hours into this case.

I haven't actually mentioned a single one of those things   I've told you before the voices in your head are not your friend. That's three or four times now you've brought up things that I never actually even mentioned.

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Seriously? What about the head of the snake though - the left?

Well I tend to care about the fact that a bunch of people just got killed, and that there's real problems to deal with.

I know that it's not the same for you. As we have seen many times when you talk about terrorism you don't give a flying fig that right now there's a 12-year-old girl laying in a hospital fighting for her life for the bullet hole in her head. You're absolutely fine with that as long as it suits your politics.

But I tend to look at real solutions in this sort of circumstance. I know there are real problems with people insisting that we're not allowed to question transgender people in the slightest and that makes me wonder if we're not leaving the door open for mental health issues to go untreated as we have seen several times in recent history.

I know that doesn't interest you. You only care about your politics. Perhaps you think the young girl was Jewish and had it coming. But that's the difference between us.

[User]

44 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Ok there you go, authoties have confirmed it.  Still only a single digit talk of trans mass killings. Only Five transgender people have previously been implicated in Americas many mass shootings, which less than one tenth of one per cent (0.1%) of such shootings. The most prevalent demographic for these kinds of school and workplace mass shootings is still straight cisgender white male but I don’t hear you rant about those guys. 

First you make some point about hypocrisy that had nothing to do with me and now you go off about another point I didn’t make here…

My point was about the fundamental dishonesty of the mainstream media lying to us by reporting this was a female or a woman. 

Even still, the headlines from major media outlets continue to do this.

The fact that it’s a disturbing new occurrence that transgenders are engaged in acts of violence like this, is something to point out that is relatively new in the last 10 years and seems to be increasing.

 

[CdnFox]

58 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

You are confusing immigrants with black, indigenous and people of colour. These terms sre not synonymous 

I did no such thing. It was a pretty freaking racist statement you just made. I said immigrants, I meant immigrants, and don't be a racist for Christ's sake

[herbie]

3 hours ago, User said:

You are more concerned with pushing trans ideology and lies than honest reporting about a mass shooting….

You are so brainwashed by wrong wing propaganda you can't see past your own nose. 
The killings were the issue, nothing else. But attempting to blame sexuality rather than offering condolences is beyond disgusting.