Nationalist Posted February 2 Author Report Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Hodad said: You should always ask. Consent is very important. Lol...The great defender of Democracy...wants to cover up election fraud. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Moonlight Graham Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 On 2/1/2026 at 11:19 AM, ironstone said: Why do you assume that it's somehow more difficult for non-whites to get photo ID? I didn't say it was more difficult for non-whites to get photo ID. I said they tended to have it less often. On 2/1/2026 at 11:19 AM, ironstone said: All adult passengers (18 years and older) flying within the United States are required to present an acceptable form of photo ID at the airport security checkpoint. This is enforced by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). See the hypocrisy here? Flying in a private company's airplane isn't a constitutional right. 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
CdnFox Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 33 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: I didn't say it was more difficult for non-whites to get photo ID. I said they tended to have it less often. Then they can go get some. Debate closed Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Fluffypants Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 5 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: I didn't say it was more difficult for non-whites to get photo ID. I said they tended to have it less often. Flying in a private company's airplane isn't a constitutional right. So is having a gun but we jump through all kinds of hoops to get one including having photo ID 1 Quote
Venandi Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 (edited) On 1/31/2026 at 4:35 PM, robosmith said: You're FOS. The OBVIOUS goal is voter SUPPRESSION, and you're fine with that because you're a fascist and care NOTHING about democracy.. 🤮 On 1/31/2026 at 4:48 PM, herbie said: By following the advice of their mentors and repeating the lies over and over again. Inflamed, non specific nonsense from the usual purveyors. A 15 second search turns up that this is the meat of what MAGA fascists are proposing. I think there's a couple more but I don't have time to do all of your homework for ya: 1. Photo Id required. It seems that "you people' (as eyehole is fond of saying) scream racist in everyone's face at the drop of a hat but then feel justified in suggesting that black people are too stupid to have, or even obtain, government issued ID. Do you know any black people? Would you actually say that shi% to their face if you did? WTF is wrong with you? 2. Proof of citizenship. States will be required to verify the citizenship of registered voters on their rolls. If you're going to suggest that non citizens and people in the country illegally should vote in federal elections then start a new thread... most sensible people will disagree with you. It's bad enough that you do it in (some) local jurisdictions. That said, you might convince me to agree with your right to do stupid shi$ in your own house as long as you're willing to pay for it... but, national elections aren't your house; take your muddy boots off and behave. 3. Restrictions on voting methods - No universal, automatic, mass ballot mailings to all and sundry. Dead people shouldn't be voting. If you have a valid reason for an absentee ballot then cool. 4. Mandatory voter roll maintenance See 3 above because dead people shouldn't have ballots sent to them. There's a new thread for ya Herb, title it "MAGA Fascists Discriminate Against Dead Voters." If you don't want to show ID at the polling station then you're going to have to convince me that your voter registration rolls are scrupulously up to date. 5. Restrictions on ballot handling - Prohibits 3rd party ballot harvesting. Continuity in things like evidence and federal vote handling seems like a "no brainer" to me, thus the perfect thread for Robo to start. 6. Financial consequences for non compliance - States must share voter fraud information with federal authorities and will lose federal election funding if they fail to follow federal voting laws. Sounds like another "no brainer," flip a coin guys. Edited February 6 by Venandi Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Fluffypants said: So is having a gun but we jump through all kinds of hoops to get one including having photo ID Trump doesn't care about the health of US democracy, he cares about winning elections to bolster his own power. 1 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Nationalist Posted February 6 Author Report Posted February 6 1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said: Trump doesn't care about the health of US democracy, he cares about winning elections to bolster his own power. That's right. When the battle is lost, fall back on TDS. "But...TRUUUMP! TRUUUMP! AAAHHH!" giggle...such childish behavior. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Venandi Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Trump doesn't care about the health of US democracy I listed some of the proposals above.... so let's assume that I agree with you about Trump for the moment. How does anyone who does care about "the health of US democracy" argue against such things as showing ID at the polls (to prove who you are), making an effort (at the state level) to maintain accurate voter rolls, and only letting citizens of the country vote on the future direction of the country? In my view, this has nothing to do with Trump.... how does not doing these things even qualify as sanity? So... I got to wondering, how many countries actually allow non citizens and illegal aliens to vote in national elections? Note the caveats of those who do and the type of election they are allowed to participate in: Countries That Allow Non-Citizen Voting COUNTRY VOTING TYPE ELIGIBILITY CONDITIONS New Zealand Local elections, national referendums Permanent residents meeting specific criteria Uruguay National elections Foreigners with legal residency after three years Sweden Various levels (municipal, regional) Non-citizens contributing significantly via work or family ties Scotland Local and parliamentary elections EU nationals residing in Scotland Edited February 6 by Venandi Quote
User Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 10 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: Flying in a private company's airplane isn't a constitutional right. Once again, possessing a firearm is a right, and I bet you insist people have to have an ID to buy one of those? Quote
ironstone Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 10 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: I didn't say it was more difficult for non-whites to get photo ID. I said they tended to have it less often. Flying in a private company's airplane isn't a constitutional right. And why would it be that they tend to have it less often? Whose fault is that? If we have already established that there is no reason why it's more difficult for them to obtain ID, is it really asking too much for them to go out and get it? Voting is something that happens every few years so there is plenty of time to take the SIMPLE steps to get ID. Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
robosmith Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 On 2/2/2026 at 3:16 PM, Nationalist said: Lol...The great defender of Democracy...wants to cover up election fraud. You are talking out of your ASS and have NO EVIDENCE of significant voter impersonation fraud. Smart people know that's not an effective way to swing elections. Now YOU know. LMAO Quote
robosmith Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 5 hours ago, Venandi said: Inflamed, non specific nonsense from the usual purveyors. A 15 second search turns up that this is the meat of what MAGA fascists are proposing. I think there's a couple more but I don't have time to do all of your homework for ya: 1. Photo Id required. It seems that "you people' (as eyehole is fond of saying) scream racist in everyone's face at the drop of a hat but then feel justified in suggesting that black people are too stupid to have, or even obtain, government issued ID. Do you know any black people? Would you actually say that shi% to their face if you did? WTF is wrong with you? 2. Proof of citizenship. States will be required to verify the citizenship of registered voters on their rolls. If you're going to suggest that non citizens and people in the country illegally should vote in federal elections then start a new thread... most sensible people will disagree with you. It's bad enough that you do it in (some) local jurisdictions. That said, you might convince me to agree with your right to do stupid shi$ in your own house as long as you're willing to pay for it... but, national elections aren't your house; take your muddy boots off and behave. 3. Restrictions on voting methods - No universal, automatic, mass ballot mailings to all and sundry. Dead people shouldn't be voting. If you have a valid reason for an absentee ballot then cool. 4. Mandatory voter roll maintenance See 3 above because dead people shouldn't have ballots sent to them. There's a new thread for ya Herb, title it "MAGA Fascists Discriminate Against Dead Voters." If you don't want to show ID at the polling station then you're going to have to convince me that your voter registration rolls are scrupulously up to date. 5. Restrictions on ballot handling - Prohibits 3rd party ballot harvesting. Continuity in things like evidence and federal vote handling seems like a "no brainer" to me, thus the perfect thread for Robo to start. 6. Financial consequences for non compliance - States must share voter fraud information with federal authorities and will lose federal election funding if they fail to follow federal voting laws. Sounds like another "no brainer," flip a coin guys. ^Says the guy who doesn't care about voter suppression. Do you even know about the LONG HISTORY of RepubliCON voter suppression, Grand Wizard? 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: That's right. When the battle is lost, fall back on TDS. "But...TRUUUMP! TRUUUMP! AAAHHH!" giggle...such childish behavior. You're the one with the Trump Deification Syndrome. Prevents you from even SEEING his CRIMES. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 19 minutes ago, ironstone said: And why would it be that they tend to have it less often? Whose fault is that? If we have already established that there is no reason why it's more difficult for them to obtain ID, is it really asking too much for them to go out and get it? Voting is something that happens every few years so there is plenty of time to take the SIMPLE steps to get ID. Not been established by ANYONE HERE. Statistics don't LIE. Quote
ironstone Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 On 1/31/2026 at 3:35 PM, robosmith said: You're FOS. The OBVIOUS goal is voter SUPPRESSION, and you're fine with that because you're a fascist and care NOTHING about democracy.. 🤮 I'm not sure how much you know about Canada, if anything, but Canada requires voters to prove their identity and address to vote, which can be done by showing one piece of government-issued ID with a photo, name, and address, or two pieces of ID with a name and at least one showing the current address. By your own logic, Canada is engaging in voter suppression and therefore... must be fascist? Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
Legato Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 12 minutes ago, robosmith said: Not been established by ANYONE HERE. Statistics don't LIE. Do you have voter ID? Quote
ironstone Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 18 minutes ago, robosmith said: Not been established by ANYONE HERE. Statistics don't LIE. Question: Do you need to provide ID to do banking in the US? GPT-4o mini Yes, you generally need to provide identification (ID) to open a bank account in the U.S. Financial institutions typically require two forms of ID, which may include: Government-issued photo identification (e.g., passport, driver's license) Social Security Number (SSN) or Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) Proof of address (e.g., utility bill, lease agreement) So isn't that a form of 'banking suppression' in the US? Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
Nationalist Posted February 6 Author Report Posted February 6 10 minutes ago, ironstone said: Question: Do you need to provide ID to do banking in the US? GPT-4o mini Yes, you generally need to provide identification (ID) to open a bank account in the U.S. Financial institutions typically require two forms of ID, which may include: Government-issued photo identification (e.g., passport, driver's license) Social Security Number (SSN) or Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) Proof of address (e.g., utility bill, lease agreement) So isn't that a form of 'banking suppression' in the US? Why do you ask? You know he cant answer. This has nothing to do with "voter suppression". Its all about the illegals and ballot fraud. Taking them away is like cutting off their right arm. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Venandi Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, robosmith said: ^Says the guy who doesn't care about voter suppression. Tell me how any of the points mentioned suppress voting. Is Canada a fascist country that suppresses voting then? Do airlines limit black people's right to mobility because they have to present ID to travel? Seems like all ya got is weak sister girly responses... Edited February 6 by Venandi Quote
robosmith Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 3 minutes ago, Venandi said: Tell me how any of the points mentioned suppress voting, or, If all ya got is juvenile, weak sister insults delivered on anonymous forum (like a petulant child) then don't bother. Your purposeful IGNORANCE speaks much louder than your words. Quote
Venandi Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Your purposeful IGNORANCE speaks much louder than your words. 6 minutes ago, Venandi said: weak sister girly responses... Quote
Venandi Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 (edited) 26 minutes ago, robosmith said: Your purposeful IGNORANCE speaks much louder than your words. Do you even know what's going on in your own country? How is it that you can't even get the most basic concept of a drivers license right. How many times have you been warned about this? How many people d you have to kill? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dot-crackdown-pulls-hundreds-english-illiterate-illegal-immigrant-truckers-off-roads-crashes-mount If you're going to issue CDLs to unqualified illegal aliens wanted for terrorism at least put their names on it.... or is that driver suppression? 26 minutes ago, robosmith said: Your purposeful IGNORANCE Is unmatched... Edited February 6 by Venandi Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 8 hours ago, Fluffypants said: So is having a gun but we jump through all kinds of hoops to get one including having photo ID Bolded the important part. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
robosmith Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Your purposeful IGNORANCE speaks much louder than your words. 1 hour ago, Venandi said: weak sister girly responses... Your response description is correct! Quote
robosmith Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 50 minutes ago, Venandi said: Do you even know what's going on in your own country? Much better than you Canucks. I never pretend to know what's going on in Canada like you guys do here. 50 minutes ago, Venandi said: How is it that you can't even get the most basic concept of a drivers license right. How is it that you don't understand that voter identity fraud is virtually NON EXISTENT. You don't even know why. 50 minutes ago, Venandi said: How many times have you been warned about this? How many people d you have to kill? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dot-crackdown-pulls-hundreds-english-illiterate-illegal-immigrant-truckers-off-roads-crashes-mount If you're going to issue CDLs to unqualified illegal aliens wanted for terrorism at least put their names on it.... or is that driver suppression? Is unmatched... You still don't understand that FOS LIES has LOST ALL CREDIBILITY when they LIBELED DOMINION and had to pay serious money of $800M FOR LYING. Quote
ironstone Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 18 minutes ago, robosmith said: Much better than you Canucks. I never pretend to know what's going on in Canada like you guys do here. How is it that you don't understand that voter identity fraud is virtually NON EXISTENT. You don't even know why. You still don't understand that FOS LIES has LOST ALL CREDIBILITY when they LIBELED DOMINION and had to pay serious money of $800M FOR LYING. On the subject of voter ID, you're going against the majority in your own party. Search Approximately 71% of Democrat voters support requiring a photo ID to vote. Recent polling indicates that support for voter ID laws has been steadily increasing among Democrats, rising from 61% to 71% over the past year. Kind of funny isn't it? Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
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