Canada's justice system is far too lenient for murderers. They should really get capital punishment to protect society.

[blackbird]

This is an example of a failed justice system.

This man stabbed another man 50 times and killed him of course.  Any rational person would think this was murder.  But the Canadians justice system found him guilty of manslaughter and sentenced him to eleven years, a relatively light sentence.  Such a crime should have warranted the death penalty or at least life in prison with no parole.  Life should mean life, but not in Canada.  Our supreme court declared actual life in prison to be "unconstitutional"  or cruel and unusual punishment.

If you google this you find this does not really even fit the definition of manslaughter.  The legal definition says this:

" Unlike murder, death in manslaughter is not planned, and there is no intent to kill. "   Manslaughter Laws in Canada: Charges & Sentencing | Criminal Code Help

So even though the offender stabbed a man 50 times, the justice system people decided the killer had no intent to kill????  That doesn't make sense. 

I don't see this as meeting the definition of manslaughter at all.   Granted the offender was taking some kind of drugs around that time, but I don't think an offender taking any drugs around the time of a crime should be able to use that as an excuse to be found guilty of the lesser offence of manslaughter.  That is a perversion of justice.

The sentence given him was eleven years.  Again a very light sentence for such a horrific crime.  The victim must have suffered horrifically.  

Canada needs to bring back capital punishment.  People who commit these kinds of crimes are a serious threat to society and should never be out free again.  Who can guarantee that this kind of character will not go out and repeat this same kind of crime?  Nobody can make such a guarantee.  This person also represents a serious danger to jail guards who have often been attacked in their job.   Perhaps this is another reason the Bible prescribes capital punishment for killing.  See Genesis 9:6 KJV.  It makes no distinction between different classifications of killing.

Yet, in Canada, even though it is unlikely, there is a chance he could get out on parole after seven years.  Another failure of the justice system.

The protection of society should come first in the justice system.  However, it Canada, under Liberal rule, the justice system is designed to grant rights to the criminal, even murderers, rights they should never have.  That is liberal mentality.  It is wrecking this country.   The Liberals are apparently bringing in some changes at the moment to the justice system.  But don't hold your breath for any serious changes that would protect society.

Jamaican who stabbed Albertan 50 times and hid his body gets 11-year sentence for manslaughter

[herbie]

Here we go again, the self proclaimed 'Christian' calloing for a return of the death penalty.

And as typical, claims to be pro life and wants to ban abortion at the same time.

Fun dumb mental  hypocrites all.

[Barquentine]

On 1/27/2026 at 6:55 AM, blackbird said:

Canada needs to bring back capital punishment.

How many prisoners have been found innocent after years in prison or on Death Row?

"It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent person suffer,"
Origin: Often attributed to Sir William Blackstone in his Commentaries on the Laws of England (1760s), the concept has roots in earlier Jewish law and Roman law.

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

How many prisoners have been found innocent after years in prison or on Death Row?

"It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent person suffer,"
Origin: Often attributed to Sir William Blackstone in his Commentaries on the Laws of England (1760s), the concept has roots in earlier Jewish law and Roman law.

The answer is simple.  Tighten up the justice system and correct any problems that cause wrongful convictions.

How many people have been murdered or maimed (including prison guards) by murderers who were given life or let out on parole?   What about the native guy who was let out and went a killed about eleven people on the Cree nation in Saskatchewan a few years ago?   Countless cases of criminals being let out and re-offending in Canada.

[blackbird]

19 hours ago, herbie said:

Here we go again, the self proclaimed 'Christian' calloing for a return of the death penalty.

And as typical, claims to be pro life and wants to ban abortion at the same time.

Fun dumb mental  hypocrites all.

Sadly you do not know the difference between innocent people who are victims of murderers (the public), preborn babies, and murderers that deserve capital punishment.  They are all the same to you.  You have no conscience.

Edited January 28 by blackbird

[User]

19 hours ago, herbie said:

Here we go again, the self proclaimed 'Christian' calloing for a return of the death penalty.

And as typical, claims to be pro life and wants to ban abortion at the same time.

Fun dumb mental  hypocrites all.

What is dumb here is your using the same old tired anti “Pro-Life” arguments. 

Pro-Life is a term used to deacribe people’s position on abortion, not some absurd absolute statement that applies to every conceivable concept outside of that.

Just like people who are “Pro-Choice” are not really for choice in anything and everything-like school choice. 
 

Pro-Life, at its core, essentially is a belief that the unborn child is a human life with a right to life. 
 

I don’t support the death penalty either.

And if you want to talk about hypocrisy on this position, then it goes both ways. You hypocritically choose life in one scenario and reject it in the other.

The difference being that you stand with the absolute worst criminal scum of society, people who are so depraved that they get the death penalty, while you don’t give a shit that millions of unborn children are killed a year for the mere convenience of it. 

 

[herbie]

It's hard to tell the difference between terms purely invented.
Like pro life when you don't give a shit about the mother or for that matter any living child.
And "pre born babies" a nice imaginary one.

[User]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

It's hard to tell the difference between terms purely invented.
Like pro life when you don't give a shit about the mother or for that matter any living child.
And "pre born babies" a nice imaginary one.

These problems are of you own making. You are either too ignorant or dishonest when you say Pro-Life folks don’t care about the mother or the living child. 

 

 

[CdnFox]

So your plan is to give the same government that declared the emergency act because somebody had a bouncy castle in the street the power of life and death over the citizens.

Give your head a shake

Life in jail without the possibility of parole is one thing. At the very least if evidence were to appear later to show that the person was unlawfully in prisoned or that the investigation wasn't done properly and it's still possible to release them and compensate them to some degree. And that has happened many times by the way

But letting the murder somebody means that if it turns out they were dirty later they get away with it.

Do not give your government the power of life and death over you. They will miss use it the same as they misuse everything else

[eyeball]

11 hours ago, blackbird said:

Sadly you do not know the difference between innocent people who are victims of murderers (the public), preborn babies, and murderers that deserve capital punishment.  They are all the same to you.

What about mothers who abort their babies, do they get the death penalty too? Like you say murderers are all the same so...

[herbie]

Hmm I see we have a petrified brain bearer here who can't even come up with a reply, just a down vote. Well thanks for another badge of honour.
Maybe you'll learn to use a keyboard someday.

[Michael Hardner]

Capital punishment is not a deterrent...

The USA has capital punishment, and a higher murder rate than We do. 

 

[CDN1]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Capital punishment is not a deterrent...

The USA has capital punishment, and a higher murder rate than We do. 

 

Yeah, they have a much higher Black population % which correlates with higher homicide rates. The only state exceptions are New Mexico & Alaska, which are largely driven by Native Americans, as we see here in Canada.

Don't worry, the liberals are doing their best to import their urban gun violence problem. Demographics are destiny.

 

 

Edited January 29 by CDN1

[John Stone]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Capital punishment is not a deterrent...

The USA has capital punishment, and a higher murder rate than We do. 

 

..................... suppose most people would prefer a punishment that deters the individual rather than a punishment that deters society's belief in justice? 

Liberalism has converted a Justice Room into a Court Room. 

[Michael Hardner]

16 minutes ago, John Stone said:

Liberalism has converted a Justice Room into a Court Room. 

Now that we have a hardline US government, things should be changing right ?

Or ... not .... 

See, since these problems are more difficult to solve than an idealogue will tell you, they will just point the finger of blame elsewhere when they get power: the cities, the states.

Fuel the anger... find more fuel...

Trump says he was saddened to hear Renée Good's parents were big Trump supporters.   It makes sense, because the death of a US citizen wouldn't be expected to sadden him if they were Democrats.

Just some random thoughts here...

[John Stone]

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Now that we have a hardline US government, things should be changing right ?

Or ... not .... 

See, since these problems are more difficult to solve than an idealogue will tell you, they will just point the finger of blame elsewhere when they get power: the cities, the states.

Fuel the anger... find more fuel...

Trump says he was saddened to hear Renée Good's parents were big Trump supporters.   It makes sense, because the death of a US citizen wouldn't be expected to sadden him if they were Democrats.

Just some random thoughts here...

.........unlike SCOTUS most Canadians would be hard pressed to even name the Canadian Supreme Court bench.

[Michael Hardner]

10 minutes ago, John Stone said:

.........unlike SCOTUS most Canadians would be hard pressed to even name the Canadian Supreme Court bench.

Canadians know more about America than a lot of Americans.

And we know little about our own country.

Jay Leno used to talk to Americans and make them look stupid.  The funny thing was they didn't edit out any of the participants ...

[ExFlyer]

22 hours ago, blackbird said:

The answer is simple.  Tighten up the justice system and correct any problems that cause wrongful convictions.

How many people have been murdered or maimed (including prison guards) by murderers who were given life or let out on parole?   What about the native guy who was let out and went a killed about eleven people on the Cree nation in Saskatchewan a few years ago?   Countless cases of criminals being let out and re-offending in Canada.

Yes...please answer that question instead of just posing it.

As you are aware...the indigenous are "special" even when they are sent to jail..they can go to Healing Lodges" instead of prisons.

Please, instead of the one making headlines today, list the "countless cases of criminals". It is people of your ilk...the religious groups , everyone is the same in the eyes of God, everyone deserves a second chance, that have mellowed the punishments to a slap on the fingers.

[blackbird]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Capital punishment is not a deterrent...

You forgot to mention the murderers who receive capital punishment won't be repeating their crime.  Prison guards and the general public will be much safer.  No releasing convicted murderers on mandatory release or parole.

[CdnFox]

13 hours ago, eyeball said:

What about mothers who abort their babies, do they get the death penalty too? Like you say murderers are all the same so...

The doctor would be the murderer in that case and he would go to jail not the mother. And presumably if it was against the law and considered murder the doctor wouldn't do it in the first place.

Kind of a dumb question

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

You forgot to mention the murderers who receive capital punishment won't be repeating their crime.  Prison guards and the general public will be much safer.  No releasing convicted murderers on mandatory release or parole.

Well not releasing them also does the same thing. You can lock them in jail for life with no chance of parole and the public is every bit as safe.

Believe it or not it actually works out to be cheaper too.

If you're okay with a situation where the state can accidentally kill an innocent person, and they absolutely will that's not a question, then pick which of your family members goes first. If you're okay with one of your own being murdered for the sake of justice even though they're innocent then we can talk.

[eyeball]

22 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The doctor would be the murderer in that case and he would go to jail not the mother. 

No, mom would be literally ordering a hit on someone - I'm pretty sure that nets a 1st degree murder charge. 

[User]

13 hours ago, herbie said:

Hmm I see we have a petrified brain bearer here who can't even come up with a reply, just a down vote. Well thanks for another badge of honour.
Maybe you'll learn to use a keyboard someday.

He screamed into the void

[User]

7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Capital punishment is not a deterrent...

The USA has capital punishment, and a higher murder rate than We do. 

 

I don’t support Capital punishment but I do support logical arguments.

You are not comparing apples to apples here.

Also, Capital punishment does give Prosecutors leverage in demanding plea bargains for lesser sentences. 
 

 

[User]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Now that we have a hardline US government, things should be changing right ?

Or ... not .... 

See, since these problems are more difficult to solve than an idealogue will tell you, they will just point the finger of blame elsewhere when they get power: the cities, the states.

They are. The border has not ever been this secure for decades. Record low illegal crossings.

For the first time in I think ever, net illegally immigration is negative, in that we are deporting more than are illegally entering 

Murder rates were trending down from Pandemic highs, but they had a much steeper drop this last year.

the issue is that for as “hard line” as Trump is, he doesn’t control states or cities, where the left still has these soft on crime policies going. 
 

[Michael Hardner]

2 minutes ago, User said:

 

1. Murder rates were trending down from Pandemic highs, but they had a much steeper drop this last year.

2. the issue is that for as “hard line” as Trump is, he doesn’t control states or cities, where the left still has these soft on crime policies going. 
 

1.  2. Sounds like you want to give yourself a safe space to credit him if crime rates decline, or excuse him if they go up.

Edited January 29 by Michael Hardner