WestCanMan Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: We have one National broadcaster, as do dozens and dozens of other countries in the world. It operates at arm's length. Other networks are privately owned. Our national newspaper is owned by a conservative family. The largest press chain is majority American owned. Are you trying t say that the CBC isn't 100% biased and dishonest? How Biased do you think they are? How dishonest do you think they are? 1 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
ironstone Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: You do realize it is the Americans that pay the tariffs? They have to buy the imports, not us. And Canadians pay the tariffs that Canada has levied on certain products from other countries. US, China, Brazil, Russia, EU members, India, Mexico, South Korea, Japan, UK. Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
WestCanMan Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 5 minutes ago, ironstone said: And Canadians pay the tariffs that Canada has levied on certain products from other countries. US, China, Brazil, Russia, EU members, India, Mexico, South Korea, Japan, UK. He still believes that "the balance will budget itself", and runs into the wall when he chases the red dot. You'll be a while trying to explain that to him. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
paxamericana Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Seriously??? Are you on of those Americans that still thinks the exporter pays the tariffs...even today, after a year of Trump? You do know that you, the American that buys the stuff pays the tariff?? LOL Don’t play coy, if it was a simple issue of Americans paying the tariff then why are you all so upset about it hmmm? Quote
ExFlyer Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Don’t play coy, if it was a simple issue of Americans paying the tariff then why are you all so upset about it hmmm? Me? Upset? Hardly...go ahead ...pay the tariffs.... but on all things from Canada, not just a few selected items trump may say. I wanna hear the screaming and whining when you electricity bills go up 100$ and oil too LOL. All 100% tariff on all US$416 billion to US$476 we import to you. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 57 minutes ago, ironstone said: And Canadians pay the tariffs that Canada has levied on certain products from other countries. US, China, Brazil, Russia, EU members, India, Mexico, South Korea, Japan, UK. Yup...is this news to you??? We impose 100% tariff? Tariffs are not new. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ironstone Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 22 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Yup...is this news to you??? We impose 100% tariff? Tariffs are not new. Yes, Liberals have imposed tariffs on certain foreign countries...just as Trump has been doing. Only difference being, that nobody on the left complains about Liberal tariffs. Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
Michael Hardner Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Are you trying t say that the CBC isn't 100% biased and dishonest? How Biased do you think they are? How dishonest do you think they are? Yes, I think they have innate biases. I couldn't put a percentage on it. I'm not going to talk about dishonesty because you believe people are actively lying and trying to deceive, whereas I give everyone the benefit of the doubt when I can. Cheers. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
ExFlyer Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 21 minutes ago, ironstone said: Yes, Liberals have imposed tariffs on certain foreign countries...just as Trump has been doing. Only difference being, that nobody on the left complains about Liberal tariffs. I ask you again do "We impose 100% tariff"? And, the rightey tightey conservatives also imposed tariffs LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
paxamericana Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 3 hours ago, blackbird said: No, the words in the King James Bible are "thou shalt not kill" Exodus 20:13 KJV The modern Bible versions changed the word kill to murder. No that’s the wrong read. The Old Testament was written predominantly in Hebrew specifically Exodus. See my earlier definition. It says thou shall not murder. Moses killing the Egyptian was that, killing in justified act. 3 hours ago, blackbird said: That would be a violation of the sovereignty of another country, stealing on a massive scale as well as a complete violation of human rights. That’s all good and fine , tariff isn’t a violation of human rights. 3 hours ago, blackbird said: I doubt you could be considered a Christian if that is what you really believe. That is fascist ideology. It is a cult. You appear to know nothing at all about the Bible. I forgive your transgressions. Quote
Army Guy Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 14 hours ago, Politics1990 said: yawn don't care. the donald is upset call the wambluence oh jeeze i hope you are retired we don't need people like you in the army we will all care when or if he decides to tariff at 100 %.... This is not about me, it is about what 100 % tariffs will do to this country, getting on our knees is the reality of the whole issue... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 6 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Are you American?? You do realize it is the Americans that pay the tariffs? They have to buy the imports, not us. Canadians can pay the rent and eat if we sell our exports. Will Trumps 100% tariffs also include all the electricity the US imports from Quebec and powers a huge market in the Eastern Seaboard of the US?? Or The electricity from Ontario that supplies a large part of Michigan and other states?? How about a 100% tariff on the oil form Alberta?? Lastly, almost all of our exports are covered under CUSMA which has no (or very little) tariff. Unless Trump decides to invalidate CUSMA now, things remain the same. You do know how tariffs work right....If the tariffs make them to expensive for consumers, nobody is going to buy them....US costumers will find alternative products....Thats the point of tariffs....if nobody is buying them,...Canadians are not making any money on sales....no money means no rent money means no food money....even the liberals government could not subsidize everything... DO you really think trump will cut off his face despite his nose... Yes more than 80-90 % of our trade is covered under CUSMA, at the moment...but really do you think that the US can not just up and trash CUSMA after giving 6 month notice...We have already seen the impact of tariffs on just the 10 to 20 % that is not covered under CUSMA....i can not imagine the impact of 100% tariffs on everything...It would destroy our nation in a very short time... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
WestCanMan Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Yes, I think they have innate biases. Ok, that's a very minimalistic answer. You're admitting that there is some bias, but leaving the impression that it's very minimal. Was that your intention? To say that the amount of bias is very minimal? IOW, it's almost fair? Maybe just a bit off, sometimes? Quote I couldn't put a percentage on it. Of course you could. I'm not asking for 3 decimal places, 99.9% of the time. I'm asking for your general impression. Maybe to the nearest 10%. Do they tend to favour the LPOC or CPC? By: 90-10 80-20 70-30 60-40 Less than 10%. It's just a bit, here and there. Quote I'm not going to talk about dishonesty because you believe people are actively lying and trying to deceive Oh, that's rich, coming from you, Michael... The guy who claimed to have seen evidence of rampant racism at the Freedom Convoy, but then couldn't find a single picture or video to support such a strong, accusatory claim... Don't talk about anyone's honesty, Mike, tell us all what YOU think about the level of bias at the CBC. This isn't about what anyone else thinks. This is just about your own, "honest" opinion. The are billions of liars on the planet, but you're about to lay down the truth, Michael. Bring it on. Quote , whereas I give everyone the benefit of the doubt when I can. You've been watching the CBC for decades, Mike. Decades. Benefit of the doubt day came and went twenty years ago. Give your answer, or check the box beside "Plead the 5th, even though I'm not an American". Quote Cheers. Don't be snotty and trite. Man up. Have a real opinion. I think that you're in the horns of a dilemma. I think that you want to lie and pretend to be unaware of any real bias, but you know how dumb that will make you look. Buddy: here's a real, honest to goodness, grown-up answer... The CBC is a complete farce when it comes to political coverage. In order to accurately portray their POV, they should be decked out in LPOC uniforms with swastikas on them, to represent their dedication to 1) propaganda and 2) the eradication of unwanted information. 90-10 is an understatement - the CBC will do anything to promote the LPOC, and they are always willing to slander the CPC if they think that they can get away with it. Oh, and they also think that they can always get away with it, because of people like you, who always let them get away with it. You might not like that answer, but it's an honest answer. That's how I truly feel. You can call me any names you want, but IDGAF, because I'm not afraid to give my honest opinion. Now you try it. Just man up give your honest opinion about the CBC. Edited January 25 by WestCanMan 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
ExFlyer Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 6 minutes ago, Army Guy said: You do know how tariffs work right....If the tariffs make them to expensive for consumers, nobody is going to buy them....US costumers will find alternative products....Thats the point of tariffs....if nobody is buying them,...Canadians are not making any money on sales....no money means no rent money means no food money....even the liberals government could not subsidize everything... DO you really think trump will cut off his face despite his nose... Yes more than 80-90 % of our trade is covered under CUSMA, at the moment...but really do you think that the US can not just up and trash CUSMA after giving 6 month notice...We have already seen the impact of tariffs on just the 10 to 20 % that is not covered under CUSMA....i can not imagine the impact of 100% tariffs on everything...It would destroy our nation in a very short time... Oh my???? I am glad you are reiterating what I have been saying...there is hope for you Like I said...let him impose 100% tariff on electricity and oil and see what the American public thinks LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Army Guy Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 15 hours ago, Politics1990 said: yawn don't care. the donald is upset call the wambluence oh jeeze i hope you are retired we don't need people like you in the army You and those that commented on your post will care if the US decides to carry out their threat...You do get it will devast our economy right.... Well, at least i got out of moms basement and served the nation...every deployment I've been on guys like you were never to be seen....not on the front lines, or in the rear because guys like you never really served the nation, they just chirp those that did...Typical leftist mentality when they don't really have a intelligent response they resort to commenting on my character... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Oh my???? I am glad you are reiterating what I have been saying...there is hope for you Like I said...let him impose 100% tariff on electricity and oil and see what the American public thinks LOL That's not what you said, your being dishonest once again, read it again..... Just gloss over everything i said....US is not going to be that stupid to impose a tariff on life giving services....Why would they do that ? Edited January 25 by Army Guy 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Michael Hardner Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 38 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: 1. Maybe just a bit off, sometimes? 2. I'm not asking for 3 decimal places, 99.9% of the time. I'm asking for your general impression. Maybe to the nearest 10%. 3. Do they tend to favour the LPOC or CPC? 4. The guy who claimed to have seen evidence of rampant racism at the Freedom Convoy, but then couldn't find a single picture or video to support such a strong, accusatory claim... 1. Yes, I would say in terms of accuracy that's right. In terms of bias, it's just innate. We're not going to agree on that, though. 2. I am not going to quantify it. I'll say it's worse than the Globe, better than FOX ... maybe in the scope of the National Post non-editorial content. 3. They favour GOVERNMENT more than any party. They favour old school ways of looking at problems, and I read that somewhere... they are a massive bureaucracy so they think those things are a good idea. 4. Yeah, that's innaccurate. It doesn't even sound like me. I DID say Pat King was listed as an organizer and he posted very racist sh1t and I posted that, I believe. I don't think that the CBC is as far off as your own chracterization of how I posted on the Convoy participants. But - do a Google search and prove me wrong. Unlike The Rebel (a complete joke of an outfit) I will retract any statements I made. I find it hard to believe I would make blanket statements about the convoy's "rampant" behaviour since I wasn't there and I had several friends who WERE there. 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Army Guy Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 5 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Seriously??? Are you on of those Americans that still thinks the exporter pays the tariffs...even today, after a year of Trump? You do know that you, the American that buys the stuff pays the tariff?? LOL How ya gonna make out when a 100% tariff is put on all the electricity your eastern seaboard imports form Quebec?? Or when Michigan and several other middle states have to pay 100% tariff for the electricity they import or from Ontario. ? Oh and, what about the oil coming from Alberta??? Besides, as I said....CUSMA is in effect for most products imported into the US from Canada (and Mexico) and they are basically tariff and tax free. So, unless Trump tears up CUSMA..it is all "dust in the wind" and meaningless LOL I truly thouhgt you were smarter than your comments LOL Seriously ???? do you really think Americans will buy all that over priced Canadian goods....they will do what any other consumer will do, find something American made and much cheaper to buy...And what happens if Americans are no longer buying Canadian good.....you did not think this one through....Canadians will start to lose jobs, retailers, manufactures...Can you see how this well effect Canadians... the oil and gas and electricity...why would they tariff these good...why hurt themselves... According to CUSMA all that is required is to have 6 months notice before it can be torn up.... We have been hand feeding you this info for a while, not sure why you don't get it... 1 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
ExFlyer Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 51 minutes ago, Army Guy said: That's not what you said, your being dishonest once again, read it again..... Just gloss over everything i said....US is not going to be that stupid to impose a tariff on living giving services....Why would they do that ? Point I have been making is trump threatened us with 100% tariff and I said what about electricity and oil. Oh my you are so sadly starting to sound like a bitter old sergeant....just wanting to argue. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Army Guy Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: Point I have been making is trump threatened us with 100% tariff and I said what about electricity and oil. Oh my you are so sadly starting to sound like a bitter old sergeant....just wanting to argue. And then i said do you really think they are that stupid to tariff life given products and services, not sure why you had to have this pointed out to you....Capt obvious... And your starting to sound a lot like some rookie private asking question that they already knew the answer to....just talking to hear their own voice...I use to tell those privates think for a minute before you ask any questions or make statements.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
ExFlyer Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, Army Guy said: And then i said do you really think they are that stupid to tariff life given products and services, not sure why you had to have this pointed out to you....Capt obvious... And your starting to sound a lot like some rookie private asking question that they already knew the answer to....just talking to hear their own voice...I use to tell those privates think for a minute before you ask any questions or make statements.... Clearly you do not take your own advise I see LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
herbie Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 19 hours ago, WestCanMan said: It was 100% accurate, you're just a dumb cultist who won't admit to anything I'm the cultist am i ? By not pretending an attempted return to 2023 Tade terms is a "takeover by China"? By recognizing Trump has no f*cking right or ground to dictate Canadian trade policy? Just keep deluding yourself with your ignorance of reality that if an election was called tomorrow, Carney would wipe his ass with PP's face. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: 3. They favour GOVERNMENT more than any party. They favour old school ways of looking at problems, and I read that somewhere... they are a massive bureaucracy so they think those things are a good idea. To this, let me remind you that the Duffygate "scandal" was never really a scandal at all, and the LPOC's WE scandal was serious enough to result in the finance minister having to resign. The WE scandal involved 10,000 times as much money. The WE scandal got 1/12th the amount of coverage, in terms of how long the CBC carried on about them. Duffygate: Involved only $90k, which turned out to have been spent within the framework of what's acceptable, and the money was even paid back. The only question was: "Did the PM play some part in paying the $90k back for a non-scandal". Real riveting stuff, right? The kinda thing that you topple a gov't over. But the CBC gripped that story like a dog with a bone for 3 full years, even going so far as to call the 2015 election - 3 years later - a "referendum on Duffygate". What's more, Trudeau's only real poignant moments as Oppo Leader for that whole period came when he yelled about Duffygate in the HoC for 3 years, but the CBC never said that he was too negative. FYI Poilievre's tone has never sunk to the level that Trudeau constantly carried on in the HoC, and PP is only ever seen to politely offer the truth and pragmatic comments on air, yet somehow the CBC calls him "too negative to be an effective leader". Hmmmm. WE Scandal: Involved, literally, 10,000 times as much money. 900 "million" is exactly ten thousand times as much as 90 "thousand". To put that into perspective, the yellow dots on Hwy here in Langley are 6m long, and there's 8M gap between them. So it's 20m from the beginning of one dot to the end of the next. IE, each dot takes about 10m in distance. So if you pass 10,000 dots at 10m each, you go 100,000m. That's 100km. So, the next time you're driving down the hwy, just say "$90,000 Duffygate scandal" every time you pass a yellow dot, and do that for 100km. That's how many Duffygate non-scandals it takes to equal the amount of money from the WE actual scandal. The actual WE scandal got about 3 months of lukewarm coverage on CBC. Sometime it was there, sometimes it wasn't. There was an election later that same year and they never talked about it until the election was over, oddly stating that "Scheer couldn't win the election despite Trudeau's scandals (plural), so it's probably time for him to resign". Not only did WE give Trudeau's mom $300k for her speeches, they gave her $150k in expenses (a lot for just a person with no equipment to speak of). Trudeau's gov't also offered WE money, about $1.9M per event, to do shows. So a lot of taxpayer money went into WE and then straight to his mom's pocket. WE also made Hitler Youth-style propaganda for Trudeau. Trudeau's mom, doing speeches, earned ten times as much as Morneau's daughter did for working there for 1 full year. But Margaret's speeches weren't contractual, so Morneau had to resign but Trudeau was in the clear 😂 Summary of CBC's coverage: 3 years for a $90k non-scandal by the CPC 3 months for $900M actual-scandal by the LPOC Does that seem like "CBC's bias is always in favour of the gov't"? 50 minutes ago, herbie said: I'm the cultist You had an astonishing 100% accuracy rating after 3 words. You shoulda stopped there. You managed to flip your accuracy score on its head, while whining like a tw4t. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
paxamericana Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 59 minutes ago, herbie said: By recognizing Trump has no f*cking right or ground to dictate Canadian trade policy? Trump can dictate Canada’s trade policy to Governor Carney and does. 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: To this, let me remind you that the Duffygate "scandal" was never really a scandal at all, and the LPOC's WE scandal was serious enough to result in the finance minister having to resign. The WE scandal involved 10,000 times as much money. The WE scandal got 1/12th the amount of coverage, in terms of how long the CBC carried on about them. Duffygate: Involved only $90k, which turned out to have been spent within the framework of what's acceptable, and the money was even paid back. The only question was: "Did the PM play some part in paying the $90k back for a non-scandal". Real riveting stuff, right? The kinda thing that you topple a gov't over. But the CBC gripped that story like a dog with a bone for 3 full years, even going so far as to call the 2015 election - 3 years later - a "referendum on Duffygate". What's more, Trudeau's only real poignant moments as Oppo Leader for that whole period came when he yelled about Duffygate in the HoC for 3 years, but the CBC never said that he was too negative. FYI Poilievre's tone has never sunk to the level that Trudeau constantly carried on in the HoC, and PP is only ever seen to politely offer the truth and pragmatic comments on air, yet somehow the CBC calls him "too negative to be an effective leader". Hmmmm. WE Scandal: Involved, literally, 10,000 times as much money. 900 "million" is exactly ten thousand times as much as 90 "thousand". To put that into perspective, the yellow dots on Hwy here in Langley are 6m long, and there's 8M gap between them. So it's 20m from the beginning of one dot to the end of the next. IE, each dot takes about 10m in distance. So if you pass 10,000 dots at 10m each, you go 100,000m. That's 100km. So, the next time you're driving down the hwy, just say "$90,000 Duffygate scandal" every time you pass a yellow dot, and do that for 100km. That's how many Duffygate non-scandals it takes to equal the amount of money from the WE actual scandal. The actual WE scandal got about 3 months of lukewarm coverage on CBC. Sometime it was there, sometimes it wasn't. There was an election later that same year and they never talked about it until the election was over, oddly stating that "Scheer couldn't win the election despite Trudeau's scandals (plural), so it's probably time for him to resign". Not only did WE give Trudeau's mom $300k for her speeches, they gave her $150k in expenses (a lot for just a person with no equipment to speak of). Trudeau's gov't also offered WE money, about $1.9M per event, to do shows. So a lot of taxpayer money went into WE and then straight to his mom's pocket. WE also made Hitler Youth-style propaganda for Trudeau. Trudeau's mom, doing speeches, earned ten times as much as Morneau's daughter did for working there for 1 full year. But Margaret's speeches weren't contractual, so Morneau had to resign but Trudeau was in the clear 😂 Summary of CBC's coverage: 3 years for a $90k non-scandal by the CPC 3 months for $900M actual-scandal by the LPOC Does that seem like "CBC's bias is always in favour of the gov't"? I think everyone was covering the Duffy scandal. Anyway, I don't know... I thought the Duffy scandal was overblown. But Duffy got money directly to be fair. Anyway, I hope you don't expect me to do a deep dive into these scandals to compare. Let's just go to a third party to see what they say: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cbc-news-canadian-broadcasting/ Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
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