Nationalist Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 15 hours ago, eyeball said: Right-wingers have been around forever. A lefty President, told England that America wouldn't have anything to do with overthrowing Iran's democratically elected government and installing a monarch, never mind a bloodthirsty one. A few months later a right-wing President said, sure why not. No but you'll take it anyways because you're a bunch of fùcking idìots. Says the traitor. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 17 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Says the traitor. WTF does that mean? I'm a traitor for citing a historical fact or Truman is a traitor for refusing to fulfil England's request? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Deluge Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 42 minutes ago, eyeball said: You might as well try to expel Christianity. Nah, all it takes is an uprising and the muslims will find out - just like the Somalis are finding out in Tampon Tim country. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 13 minutes ago, eyeball said: WTF does that mean? I'm a traitor for citing a historical fact or Truman is a traitor for refusing to fulfil England's request? Its quite simple. You are a traitor...to humanity. You lie, cheat, work at odds with law and order. You are a traitor. Now...perhaps you should go stand in front of a cop car? Let me know how that works out. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Its quite simple. You are a traitor...to humanity. You lie, cheat, work at odds with law and order. You are a traitor. For pointing out a historical fact.... seriously? You would have had the kid who pointed out the emperor wasn't wearing clothes executed wouldn't you? 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted January 16 Author Report Posted January 16 3 hours ago, Barquentine said: FFS get your facts straight for a change! Oh were some of my facts wrong? Well I'm sure you'll point out which one spec.ifically...... oh wait. My facts are perfectly right and that's why you couldn't actually refute any 3 hours ago, Barquentine said: And no one supports the Iranian regime. Sure they do. Which is why you don't see massive amounts of left-wing people coming out and speaking against them. The nicest thing you could say is that some people don't really like them but are tolerant of them which isn't much better And they certainly seem to be tolerant of these deaths. Take you for example. Your very first post here, was it to condemn these deaths? Was it to state that these deaths are unacceptable or are tragedy or something should be done? Nope. Your first post was to lie about my facts and then somehow claim you don't support the current regime while simultaneously saying it shouldn't be changed because 'Shah'. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nationalist Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 2 hours ago, eyeball said: For pointing out a historical fact.... seriously? You would have had the kid who pointed out the emperor wasn't wearing clothes executed wouldn't you? I could cate less about Iran in the 50's. But you...are a traitor in 2026. 1 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 58 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I could cate less about Iran in the 50's. Sure, and that's why you're reduced now to calling anyone who does a traitor. 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: But you...are a traitor in 2026. You know those wars you said it was wrong for the US and its allies to have engaged in back in the day? You would have been called a traitor for doing so, I know was. In fact half our country called the other half traitorous for not wanting to join in. We sent a few people anyway, it's not like we didn't have someone on scene. I'm still sticking by my guns and you caved and now you're blaming the left for all your grievous angst. You're not a traitor you're just really pathetic. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Nationalist Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 32 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure, and that's why you're reduced now to calling anyone who does a traitor. You know those wars you said it was wrong for the US and its allies to have engaged in back in the day? You would have been called a traitor for doing so, I know was. In fact half our country called the other half traitorous for not wanting to join in. We sent a few people anyway, it's not like we didn't have someone on scene. I'm still sticking by my guns and you caved and now you're blaming the left for all your grievous angst. You're not a traitor you're just really pathetic. You stick to your Lil pop guns...traitor. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted January 16 Author Report Posted January 16 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Sure, and that's why you're reduced now to calling anyone who does a traitor. Anyone sparky, just you and people who are traitors. Did you expect that you could applaud the death of civilians, stand up for a corrupt terrorist group and spew constant Jew hatred, Give Iran a pass on slaughtering it civilians and not have people call you names? That would make you a traitor AND stupid 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
robosmith Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: You stick to your Lil pop guns...traitor. You don't know what the word means, IGNORAMUS. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 (edited) Some differences. I think most of us would agree that Iran is run by a despotic tyranny but we are told that Israel is a model democracy. American politicians, presidents and media constantly sing its praises while critical voices are marginalized or even put off the air. America did not supply Iran with vast amounts of bombs to slaughter the people there either. The unrest in Iran is mainly its own business. As in Syria, Belarus, Tanzania, Uganda and North Korea, for example, the rest of the world has only a small part to play there. Let’s remember the scale here as well - Gaza has just over two million people while Iran has over 90 million. A similar rate of death will result in 45x as many total deaths in Iran. Edited January 17 by SpankyMcFarland 1 Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
CdnFox Posted January 17 Author Report Posted January 17 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Some differences. I think most of us would agree that Iran is run by a despotic tyranny but we are told that Israel is a model democracy. What difference does that make? Israel is in fact a democracy. So it is not a despotic tyrant tyranny. So wouldn't that make you actually quicker to condemn iran or are you saying that you are slower to condemn tyranny? Your comment makes no sense Quote American politicians, presidents and media constantly sing its praises while critical voices are marginalized or even put off the air. Sure, there's absolutely no criticism of Israel in America🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 Give me a break Quote America did not supply Iran with vast amounts of bombs to slaughter the people there either. Actually they did give quite a bit of a military assistance to Iran over the years and they also released funds that it ran used to rebuild its military. So yes actually they did give Iran a great deal of money including during Obama's time which has gone to purchase the equipment that is killing people right now. Sorry to burst your bubble Quote The unrest in Iran is mainly its own business. As in Syria, Belarus, Tanzania, Uganda and North Korea, for example, the rest of the world has only a small part to play there. Let’s remember the scale here as well - Gaza has just over two million people while Iran has over 90 million. A similar rate of death will result in 45x as many total deaths in Iran. That's an awful lot of excuses is why you're in support of Iran but condemning Israel. It's kind of pathetic that you would attack a democracy for defending itself against terrorist attacks but support a terrorist tyranny who is slaughtering its people. And then try and justify it using statements which simply are not accurate. And I'm being kind saying that Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 (edited) 33 minutes ago, CdnFox said: What difference does that make? Israel is in fact a democracy. So it is not a despotic tyrant tyranny. So wouldn't that make you actually quicker to condemn iran or are you saying that you are slower to condemn tyranny? Your comment makes no sense Sure, there's absolutely no criticism of Israel in America🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 Give me a break Actually they did give quite a bit of a military assistance to Iran over the years and they also released funds that it ran used to rebuild its military. So yes actually they did give Iran a great deal of money including during Obama's time which has gone to purchase the equipment that is killing people right now. Sorry to burst your bubble That's an awful lot of excuses is why you're in support of Iran but condemning Israel. It's kind of pathetic that you would attack a democracy for defending itself against terrorist attacks but support a terrorist tyranny who is slaughtering its people. And then try and justify it using statements which simply are not accurate. And I'm being kind saying that I’m in support of Iran but not in the way you think because you don’t bother to read what I write. Go look at the Iran threads some time and see what I just posted on the children of the regime. As a secular social democrat I support the Iranian people in their struggle against a theocratic tyranny. Four very basic points. 1. The numbers have to be compared as rates. Deaths in Iran would have to be at least 2.8 MILLION, with an ‘m’, to be comparable to Gaza. Do you understand that? 2. The US govt is Israel’s closest ally and hands over bombs whenever asked without any questions. Last time I looked it does not do that for Iran. Do you think the Iranian govt cares what I think? 3. That money you are talking about was Iran’s money, mate. Big difference. Most countries don’t want to be labelled as thieves. 4. The MSM networks have all been in Israel’s corner for decades. After Oct 7 even MSNBC suspended some of its Muslim presenters in case they noted what was happening. Any critics of Israel on visas risked deportation for telling the truth after that. What’s changing is that younger people can see the truth on social media. Edited January 17 by SpankyMcFarland Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
CdnFox Posted January 17 Author Report Posted January 17 15 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: I’m in support of Iran but not in the way you think because you don’t bother to read what I write. You read what you write. And I see you drying to dance around things but it's quite clear that you're not interested in condemning these murders of their innocent civilians. And you offer several reasons, which are quite telling. Maybe the problem is the message you're trying to send is a little mixed Quote Go look at the Iran threads some time and see what I just posted on the children of the regime. As a secular social democrat I support the Iranian people in their struggle against a theocratic tyranny. But weren't willing to condemn the murder of these protesters. I see Quote Four very basic points.1. The numbers have to be compared as rates. That is patently insane. You're trying to argue that the deaths of these civilians is somehow not important because more civilians somewhere else were killed. You DO NOT have to compare it to the percentages in Gaza AT ALL What kind of lunatic suggests that these numbers would be really bad if they were the same as somehwere else but seeing as a percentile of the population they're not so it's ok!?!? That is SICK!!! Deaths in Iran would have to be at least 2.8 MILLION, with an ‘m’, to be comparable to Gaza. Do you understand that? Quote 2. The US govt is Israel’s closest ally and hands over bombs whenever asked without any questions. Last time I looked it does not do that for Iran. Do you think the Iranian govt cares what I think? Then look again dipshit. Obama gave them a ton of money, and so did Biden. Money is fungible. I don't think Israel or iran cares what you think, so I don't really see how that's relevant Quote 3. That money you are talking about was Iran’s money, mate. Big difference. Most countries don’t want to be labelled as thieves. Nope. The money had legally been seized and was no longer Iran's. Biden have the choice of not giving it back to them or giving them the money and he gave them the money. That's 16 billion dollars, more than it's given Israel in arms deals in ages And they gave 1.6 billion in exchange for hostages in 2016, and greenlit the imf 4 billion in 2021. So... yeah, no. You're wrong. Quote 4. The MSM networks have all been in Israel’s corner for decades .So that makes these killings legal? Aside from the fact that you 10000 percent wrong and the msm is AGAINST israel demonstrably, it would have NO BERING on this whatsoever!!! so what you're trying to claim is that these deaths in Iran aren't worth condemning because the MSM likes Israel. Tell me all about how you aren't supporting the Iranian regime for god's sake. This is some legitimately sick and twisted thinking on your part. The deaths are horrific regardless of who the MSM likes, regardless of who gave who money, and regardless of the difference in population between Iran and gaza What the hell is the matter with you? I expect this kind of nonsense from people like eyeball but you of all people should be at least saying enough to recognize that this is a horrible horrible thing. This isn't a case of the bad guys hiding behind their own civilians to get them killed which is bad enough Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
BeaverFever Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 On 1/15/2026 at 4:14 PM, CdnFox said: Iran Killed as Many Civilians in 2 Weeks as Israel Did in 13 Months - Here's Why Those Leftist Protesters Are Nowhere to Be Found How many threads have we seen here crying like babies about the deaths of the Palestinians and yet the left in general and left-wing posters on this board are utterly silent about the slaughter going on in Iran. Why it's almost as if they don't give a Flying Fig about people dying, they only cared about the politics to begin with The US doesn’t arm and support Iran, Orange is already heavily sanctioned and was recently bombed by USA. so why would anyone here protest? Iran doesn’t even have a US embassy to protest in front of. If the US treated Israel the way it treats Iran the left wing protestors would be more satisfied. Are you suggesting that should be the case? Quote
CdnFox Posted January 17 Author Report Posted January 17 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: The US doesn’t arm and support Iran, It absolutely does as I noted above with specific details. But who cares? Either the killing is wrong or it isn't. Are you saying that only people that are killed by American bombs matter? You're a Canadian, you're not even an American. So whether it's America or Russia or China or whoever that is supporting Iran it's no different to you than if it was the united states. This is perhaps one of the most twisted things I've heard come out of the left in the last decade. You and some of the others here are arguing that these deaths don't matter and that the regime shouldn't be called out for them because israel is supported by the Americans and gaza is smaller. That has nothing to do with these deaths being a tragedy or not. Every time I think the left cannot possibly make my respect for them fall lower you guys managed to find a way. I cannot even imagine what kind of people you would have to be to think that whether or not you complained about someone's death was contingent upon what happened in a completely different country based on people you do or do not like. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Barquentine Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 18 hours ago, CdnFox said: Your very first post here, was it to condemn these deaths? Unlke you, I don't need to say the obvious, just to puff up my ego. But your therapist can tell you more about that. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 17 Author Report Posted January 17 8 hours ago, Barquentine said: Unlke you, I don't need to say the obvious, just to puff up my ego. But your therapist can tell you more about that. Abd still no condemning of the deaths. The only thing obvious here kiddo is that you support the current gov't of iran and don't want to call them out for killing people. They fund hamas after all which supports your anti jew agenda. No sane person with any moral decency would refuse to call this out for what it is. This is horrible. But you're fine with it because you're okay with the Iranian regime as long as they keep opposing the Jews Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Barquentine Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 16 hours ago, CdnFox said: The only thing obvious here kiddo is that you support the current gov't of iran and don't want to call them out for killing people. But you're fine with it because you're okay with the Iranian regime as long as they keep opposing the Jews As usual you can't quote anywhere where I said anything remotely like that. You just make up sh!t, set up straw men, and spout pathetic lies. But maybe I shouldn't hold that against you. You're doing the best with what you have. Here's a sticker for participating:😀 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 On 1/16/2026 at 11:30 PM, CdnFox said: You read what you write. And I see you drying to dance around things but it's quite clear that you're not interested in condemning these murders of their innocent civilians. And you offer several reasons, which are quite telling. Maybe the problem is the message you're trying to send is a little mixed But weren't willing to condemn the murder of these protesters. I see That is patently insane. You're trying to argue that the deaths of these civilians is somehow not important because more civilians somewhere else were killed. You DO NOT have to compare it to the percentages in Gaza AT ALL What kind of lunatic suggests that these numbers would be really bad if they were the same as somehwere else but seeing as a percentile of the population they're not so it's ok!?!? That is SICK!!! Deaths in Iran would have to be at least 2.8 MILLION, with an ‘m’, to be comparable to Gaza. Do you understand that? Then look again dipshit. Obama gave them a ton of money, and so did Biden. Money is fungible. I don't think Israel or iran cares what you think, so I don't really see how that's relevant Nope. The money had legally been seized and was no longer Iran's. Biden have the choice of not giving it back to them or giving them the money and he gave them the money. That's 16 billion dollars, more than it's given Israel in arms deals in ages And they gave 1.6 billion in exchange for hostages in 2016, and greenlit the imf 4 billion in 2021. So... yeah, no. You're wrong. .So that makes these killings legal? Aside from the fact that you 10000 percent wrong and the msm is AGAINST israel demonstrably, it would have NO BERING on this whatsoever!!! so what you're trying to claim is that these deaths in Iran aren't worth condemning because the MSM likes Israel. Tell me all about how you aren't supporting the Iranian regime for god's sake. This is some legitimately sick and twisted thinking on your part. The deaths are horrific regardless of who the MSM likes, regardless of who gave who money, and regardless of the difference in population between Iran and gaza What the hell is the matter with you? I expect this kind of nonsense from people like eyeball but you of all people should be at least saying enough to recognize that this is a horrible horrible thing. This isn't a case of the bad guys hiding behind their own civilians to get them killed which is bad enough I have been criticizing the mullahs ever since I worked with a member of the Iranian resistance many decades ago and saw hundreds of photographs of people murdered by Khomeini. They’re not a passing fad for me, something to attack the ‘left’ (whatever that is) for. Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
CdnFox Posted January 18 Author Report Posted January 18 6 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: I have been criticizing the mullahs ever since I worked with a member of the Iranian resistance many decades ago and saw hundreds of photographs of people murdered by Khomeini. They’re not a passing fad for me, something to attack the ‘left’ (whatever that is) for. So you say but you couldn't even bring yourself to condemn these deaths here The actions I can see tell me that you're not being honest. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 33 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So you say but you couldn't even bring yourself to condemn these deaths here The actions I can see tell me that you're not being honest. Are you human or a badly written bot? I condemn those deaths. Do you understand what I just wrote? I’ve got to go much simpler here. The Iranian regime is a murderous one, not just now but ever since 1979. Is anybody debating that? No. There is no debate. What about North Korea or many, many other regimes in the world? We all know they are nasty. By contrast, Israel has an army of willing little helpers denying it committed war crimes in Gaza or constantly steals land in the West Bank. Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
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