Mark Carney says Justin Trudeau blew $200 billion on a failed climate strategy and knew he would never meet targets

[CdnFox]

Carney says Trudeau blew $200 billion on a failed climate strategy | Toronto Sun

Prime Minister Mark Carney acknowledged in year-end interviews with CBC that “Canada is not going to reach our 2030 and 2035 climate targets” under former PM Justin Trudeau’s climate change plan.

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He said it had “too much regulation, not enough action” with a lot of talk “and then nothing happens,” thus admitting the failure of Trudeau’s taxpayer-financed, $200-billion-plus strategy.

 

And he would have known that for some time. He was Trudeau's closest advisor financially, and he's had access to the books for a while. 

So when he stood up and told lizzie may the lie she wanted to hear over the budget,, he KNEW he was out and out lying to her and that they were NOT committed to those targets and had already realized they'd never reach them, despite having spent 200 billion on it. 

 

"Climate Change" as a threat is a  lie and a scam, and it cost canadians 200 billion for NOTHING.  All it did was line the pockets of the liberals and their friends. Its clear that politicians on the left don't believe in it and they're the ones with most access to the data.

 

[eyeball]

Mark Carney says Justin Trudeau blew $200 billion on a failed climate strategy.

There is no direct verbatim quote from Carney himself saying this anywhere. The Toronto Sun is full of shit.

[Shady]

It was a boondoggle to begin with.  All his climate policy managed to achieve was a lower standard of living for Canadians, lower economic growth, lower per capita GDP, artificially high energy prices and higher debt.  Everyone involved should be prosecuted and jailed for what they’ve done to this country.

[ironstone]

48 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Mark Carney says Justin Trudeau blew $200 billion on a failed climate strategy.

There is no direct verbatim quote from Carney himself saying this anywhere. The Toronto Sun is full of shit.

Justin Trudeau's former advisor isn't exactly singing the praises of how this plan was put into practice.

Like most things with this government, this hasn't been a success. Apart from the fact it likely added a lot to Carney's investment portfolio.

[eyeball]

Just now, ironstone said:

Justin Trudeau's former advisor isn't exactly singing the praises of how this plan was put into practice.

No one should be. I just don't see how misinformation about the plan is an improvement or will lead to an outcome that is any better.

4 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Like most things with this government, this hasn't been a success. Apart from the fact it likely added a lot to Carney's investment portfolio.

Sure, in case you hadn't noticed the gap between the 3-1% and the rest of us has steadily increased year after year after decade after decade.

Why on Earth would you expect that to change and are you really sure you even want it too? No poor man ever gave you a job did they?

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Mark Carney says Justin Trudeau blew $200 billion on a failed climate strategy.

There is no direct verbatim quote from Carney himself saying this anywhere. The Toronto Sun is full of shit.

Doesn't need to be verbatim. Will send to the interview, it's quite clear

You guys were full of shit the whole time and by the end most Canadians realized it.

No carney has admitted it although he tries to dance around the issue.

Steven Guilbeault Also confirmed when he stepped down that there was no chance of meeting the paris targets.

We spent $200 billion dollars on nothing and achieved nothing. That's how much you climb at liars cost us.

 

[eyeball]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

We spent $200 billion dollars

You have the receipts? How about the PBO or Canada's ethics commissioner or the RCMP?

I mean you said it was a scam right? Isn't that illegal?

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You have the receipts?

Yep, they're all available through the government offices and the budgetary Watchdog. Feel free to ask for a set for yourself. Most of it's available publicly from the budgets for each year as well

 

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

How about the PBO or Canada's ethics commissioner or the RCMP?

Probably not the ethics commissioner or the RCMP. Thanks to the liberals and their laws it's absolutely not illegal whatsoever to blow 200 billion dollars on a fake scam in order to line your own pockets. Especially not if people keep voting for you

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I mean you said it was a scam right? Isn't that illegal?

Not when the liberals are in power no

When the conservatives are in power a $14 glass of orange juice is grounds for immediate termination however  

[ironstone]

26 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Sure, in case you hadn't noticed the gap between the 3-1% and the rest of us has steadily increased year after year after decade after decade.

Yes, there certainly are serious issues in Canada and some of blame for that must lie with bad government policies that have a negative effect on the poorest. Carbon taxes past and present, mass immigration, way too much spending. 

But there are enough people that just keep putting the same bunch in again and again so things are not likely to change for the better.

I would be happy if our per capita gdp was on par with the US, the cost of living was more reasonable, less crime, more unity in the country, but those things aren't changing for the better.

While exact counts of food bank locations per year are not consistently tracked publicly, the use of food banks has surged dramatically since 2015:

• Visits to food banks have roughly doubled since 2019, rising from under 1.1 million visits per month to over 2 million. Food Banks Canada+1

• The increase in visits reflects rising food insecurity and greater reliance on these services even among employed people.

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yep, they're all available through the government offices and the budgetary Watchdog. Feel free to ask for a set for yourself. Most of it's available publicly from the budgets for each year as well

I looked, there were committments to spend that much but...why are you putting so much stock in Trudeau's promises and exaggerating them?

 

[eyeball]

13 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Yes, there certainly are serious issues in Canada and some of blame for that must lie with bad government policies that have a negative effect on the poorest.

Yes, it's been like this for decades - because government policies usually always have a more positive effect on the wealthiest.

 

Edited December 27, 2025 by eyeball

[herbie]

Oh God you're arguing with people who think the road to salvation is a return to 1970s Los Angeles smog levels worldwide. Pump more oil, cut more trees, dump raw shit in the rivers, pave more farmland, force them back to office cubicles to sell more cars, etc

[ironstone]

6 minutes ago, herbie said:

Oh God you're arguing with people who think the road to salvation is a return to 1970s Los Angeles smog levels worldwide. Pump more oil, cut more trees, dump raw shit in the rivers, pave more farmland, force them back to office cubicles to sell more cars, etc

I do have to point out that our current PM has placed his financial bets on both sides of the table. He will earn a lot from all of the sketchy green initiatives while he also has a stake in foreign oil companies(including pipelines!), as well as timber harvesting, car companies, mining companies etc.

It's certainly fair game to be critical of my position on these matters, just as it is for me to point out how Carney is playing all sides, and progressives aren't paying attention to what he's up to.

[User]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Oh God you're arguing with people who think the road to salvation is a return to 1970s Los Angeles smog levels worldwide. Pump more oil, cut more trees, dump raw shit in the rivers, pave more farmland, force them back to office cubicles to sell more cars, etc

No... just ship all the coal to China to burn so you can pretend you are doing something to save the planet in Canada!

 

[herbie]

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Using 20 year old claims while ignoring how China is decarbonizing at a faster rate than anyone else.
 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Yes, it's been like this for decades - because government policies usually always have a more positive effect on the wealthiest.

 

Contact the PBO, they'll help you with all the receipts. Looks like the newspaper did

25 minutes ago, herbie said:

Chyna Chyna Chyna

Using 20 year old claims while ignoring how China is decarbonizing at a faster rate than anyone else.
 

But they're not. Over the last 5 years they've been the largest growers of carbon pollution.

For much of that time they were adding an entire Canada's worth of pollution about every 15 months.

But of course the left wing likes china because they help keep the liberals in power to unlawful donations. So you don't want to talk about china obviously. A shame you don't care as much about Canada

[herbie]

We'll just take your word for that, you're the Ex Spurt on everything. All the factual retention of a sock full of soup

[August1991]

7 hours ago, Shady said:

It was a boondoggle to begin with.  All his climate policy managed to achieve was a lower standard of living for Canadians, lower economic growth, lower per capita GDP, artificially high energy prices and higher debt.  Everyone involved should be prosecuted and jailed for what they’ve done to this country.

Exactly.

$200 billion? - We Canadians produce $2 000 trillion of value.

A rounding error. 

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Yes, it's been like this for decades -

 

No it hasn't. This is really been primarily a problem in the last 10 years. During the harper years Both the lower and middle classes got improvements and actually did better.

Oopsie doodle, I guess you forgot that. This is more of a liberal problem than anything else

[CdnFox]

45 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Exactly.

$200 billion? - We Canadians produce $2 000 trillion of value.

A rounding error. 

You would have to be Beyond stupid to believe that.

first off we produce 2,1 trillion per year , not 2000 trillion. So 200 billion is actually about 10 percent of the entire wealth created in canada in a full year.  That's a huge amount,  a massive recession that's considered to be beyond devastating might see a drop of 5 - 7 percent gdp

But worse, this is TAX money.  In that time we averaged aroudn 375 billion a year in taxes of all types federally, carbon tax, income tax corporate tax gst etc.   So that's welll over half of every single tax dollar paid by canadians for a year 

That's absolutely horrific. Can you imagine how much we could have done with that money? We could have more than doubled the amount spent federally on health care. We could have reduced the amount of debt we incurred by about 20 percent ,saving future generations from having to pay for it.  we could have incentivized trillions and trillions of dollars in new business to come to canada. 

And what did we get? Nothing,

Rounding error? That was the difference between sucecss and failure and we are on the wrong side of those numbers. 

 

 

 

[User]

4 hours ago, herbie said:

Chyna Chyna Chyna

Using 20 year old claims while ignoring how China is decarbonizing at a faster rate than anyone else.
 

Decarbonizing faster than anyone else? You are so full of shit. 

China is building more new coal plants/coal energy every year than the rest of the world combined. 

 You people on the left are so foolish and dishonest. 

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, User said:

Decarbonizing faster than anyone else? You are so full of shit. 

China is building more new coal plants/coal energy every year than the rest of the world combined. 

 You people on the left are so foolish and dishonest. 

no no no it's true! If you look at from jan 15th and 4:30 pm to feb 27 at noon...........

China has been "carbonizing" like mad

They went up again in 2023 and MIGHT go down a little in 2025.   They are one of the most carbon intense major countries in the world.   Every now and then they hit an economic slump and their emissions go down, and they've been trying to use as much solar as possible (and good on them) to try to cap growth a bit, but they're running out of road on that as well and we'll be back to major climbs 

Oh but china's doing SOooooo well. 

China puts out about 30 percent of the world's ghg emissions. The only make up about 17 to 18% of the world's population.

Whatever I hear these complete dots on the left claiming that china is doing so well the first thing I think is tell me that you don't believe climate change is a serious issue without telling me

 

 

[August1991]

On 12/27/2025 at 11:21 PM, CdnFox said:

You would have to be Beyond stupid to believe that.

first off we produce 2,1 trillion per year , not 2000 trillion. So 200 billion is actually about 10 percent of the entire wealth created in canada in a full year.  That's a huge amount,  a massive recession that's considered to be beyond devastating might see a drop of 5 - 7 percent gdp

But worse, this is TAX money.  In that time we averaged aroudn 375 billion a year in taxes of all types federally, carbon tax, income tax corporate tax gst etc.   So that's welll over half of every single tax dollar paid by canadians for a year

....

Agreed.

Uh, 200 billion is 0.1 (10%) of 2 trillion.

As I said, a rounding error.

[August1991]

Following Harper, America recently eliminated the penny.

Some 350 million Americans lost a penny: what did America lose?

[User]

22 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Following Harper, America recently eliminated the penny.

Some 350 million Americans lost a penny: what did America lose?

What are you talking about? No one lost a penny.