BeaverFever Posted December 25, 2025 Report Posted December 25, 2025 (edited) 8 hours ago, User said: So... how does China install all that wind power if they are not the ones making the most turbines? They are in fact the worlds largest exporter of wind turbines too. While you folks love to brag about how much solar and wind they install... they are also installing more coal than the rest of the world COMBINED every year. 1) 25% of China’s massive electricity consumption is now generated by wind and solar, which completely debunks the right wing that renewables are some kind of hoax or scam 2) China still builds coal plants for BACKUP and PEAK power not everyday baseload power. We in the west tend to use gas plants for this purpose but China is dependent on vulnerable import routes for oil and gas so they prefer coal which they have in abundance. That said they have long-term plans to de-carbonize their grid: peak carbon emissions by 2030 and carbon-neutral by 2060 3) China is not the largest supplier of windmills used in Europe and North America. Most of the wind turbines used in Europe and North America are from Europe, North America or South Korea, once again exposing Trump’s lies. So while Trump keeps killing renewable energy projects left and right, China is laughing all the way to the bank and America falls further and further behind the rest of the world at the moment in time when power generation has never been more crucial to future success Edited December 25, 2025 by BeaverFever 1 Quote
Shady Posted December 25, 2025 Report Posted December 25, 2025 7 hours ago, robosmith said: Trump's prediction was more of a promise and a BRAG about an imagined connection with Putin that never existed because Putin was ALWAYS PLAYING HIM. it's actually incredible that you didn't know that, just like Trump didn't or did not care about LYING. Carney’s was a promise. 1 Quote
User Posted December 25, 2025 Report Posted December 25, 2025 2 hours ago, BeaverFever said: 3) China is not the largest supplier of windmills used in Europe and North America. Most of the wind turbines used in Europe and North America are from Europe, North America or South Korea, once again exposing Trump’s lies. No, this just makes you the liar. Trump made no specific claim about only those countries or continents. You are dishonestly and selectively choosing them to make your own lie fit. 56 minutes ago, Shady said: Carney’s was a promise. These guys are like children. Daddy Trump promised to be at my baseball game, he didn’t make it, he is a liar! Quote
herbie Posted December 25, 2025 Report Posted December 25, 2025 So was it Carney that cut off trade talks over a childish temper tantrum? An went on to claim Reagan loved tariffs? Pretty clear just who the liar is. 2 Quote
eyeball Posted December 25, 2025 Report Posted December 25, 2025 6 hours ago, User said: No, this just makes you the liar. Trump made no specific claim about only those countries or continents. You are dishonestly and selectively choosing them to make your own lie fit. His specific claim was that climate change was a hoax and pointed to China and windmills as proof. His proof is simply wrong. He's more likely just too ignorant to be accused of lying. You OTOH probably know better... presumably. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
herbie Posted December 25, 2025 Report Posted December 25, 2025 Aren't you ashamed when the only person alive that doesn't know Trump is the most influential habitual LIAR the world has ever seen says that it is you that's the liar? Or are you ROTFL so hard like the rest of us you can't get up? No you're the liar Na na na I'm not listening but whatabout or variations of the above... 1 1 Quote
User Posted December 26, 2025 Report Posted December 26, 2025 1 hour ago, herbie said: Aren't you ashamed when the only person alive that doesn't know Trump is the most influential habitual LIAR the world has ever seen says that it is you that's the liar? Or are you ROTFL so hard like the rest of us you can't get up? No you're the liar Na na na I'm not listening but whatabout or variations of the above... If you care about him being a liar so much, you should probably care a bit more about your own integrity too. 1 hour ago, eyeball said: His specific claim was that climate change was a hoax and pointed to China and windmills as proof. His proof is simply wrong. He's more likely just too ignorant to be accused of lying. You OTOH probably know better... presumably. I was pointing out that what Beaver did was no better, as his comment was just as much a lie as Trump's was. Quote
eyeball Posted December 26, 2025 Report Posted December 26, 2025 (edited) 16 hours ago, User said: If you care about him being a liar so much, you should probably care a bit more about your own integrity too. I was pointing out that what Beaver did was no better, as his comment was just as much a lie as Trump's was. You people appear to have some sort of obsession that you're always being lied to but it's actually more a case of you over-regarding everything people say as a promise and treating every statement or opinion as a clause in an agreement. It's sort of like a lie but really just more ignorant than anything. Edited December 26, 2025 by eyeball 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
robosmith Posted December 26, 2025 Report Posted December 26, 2025 On 12/25/2025 at 5:01 AM, Nationalist said: Awe Pumpkin...I feel sorry for you. 2026 is probably gonna be rough for you and the Tweenkie class. The economic outlook for next year is marvelous. Meh...dont fret little buckeroo. Look at it this way...zucchini should get cheaper... 2026 will mark Trump's THIRD IMPEACHMENT, and CONVICTION if Dems take the Senate. AKA it will be GLORIOUS. Quote
Nationalist Posted December 26, 2025 Report Posted December 26, 2025 12 minutes ago, robosmith said: 2026 will mark Trump's THIRD IMPEACHMENT, and CONVICTION if Dems take the Senate. AKA it will be GLORIOUS. And that's all any of it means to you. "GET TRUMP" Not, prosperity for the people, nor safety for the people, but just... "GET TRUMP" And that singular need at the expense of the American population, is why you Tweenkies can never be trusted with power again. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Radiorum Posted December 26, 2025 Author Report Posted December 26, 2025 4 minutes ago, Nationalist said: And that's all any of it means to you. "GET TRUMP" Not, prosperity for the people, nor safety for the people, but just... "GET TRUMP" This is funny coming from someone whose prime motivation is to "get the libbies" 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted December 26, 2025 Report Posted December 26, 2025 21 minutes ago, Radiorum said: This is funny coming from someone whose prime motivation is to "get the libbies" More like stop the Libbies. They're destructive. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted December 26, 2025 Report Posted December 26, 2025 18 hours ago, eyeball said: You people appear to have some sort of obsession that you're always being lied to but it's actually more a case of you over-regarding everything people say as a promise and treating every statement or opinion as a clause in an agreement. It's sort of like a lie but really just more ignorant than anything. See, you can't engage honestly, so you have to make up this strawman position I do not hold. I have no obsession with always being lied to. Amazing though, that you can't seem to apply this standard of yours to Trump. 4 hours ago, robosmith said: 2026 will mark Trump's THIRD IMPEACHMENT, and CONVICTION if Dems take the Senate. AKA it will be GLORIOUS. How are you this ignorant? Democrats held the Senate one of the times Trump was impeached. You need 2/3 of the Senate clown. Quote
eyeball Posted December 26, 2025 Report Posted December 26, 2025 1 hour ago, User said: See, you can't engage honestly, so you have to make up this strawman position I do not hold. I have no obsession with always being lied to. I didn't make up a strawman I simply gave you my honest opinion. So you bizarrely imply I'm lying about what my opinion is and that I have another one that I'm not revealing to you. What is it you imagine my real opinion might be? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
User Posted December 26, 2025 Report Posted December 26, 2025 5 minutes ago, eyeball said: I didn't make up a strawman I simply gave you my honest opinion. So you bizarrely imply I'm lying about what my opinion is and that I have another one that I'm not revealing to you. What is it you imagine my real opinion might be? Strawman: "You people appear to have some sort of obsession that you're always being lied to" Quote
herbie Posted December 26, 2025 Report Posted December 26, 2025 The cultists, the flat Earthers, the fun-DUH-mentalists of the political world. Ins spite of undeniable evidence presented daily before their eyes, the 99% are wrong because they believe what's real. Quote
User Posted December 26, 2025 Report Posted December 26, 2025 12 minutes ago, herbie said: The cultists, the flat Earthers, the fun-DUH-mentalists of the political world. Ins spite of undeniable evidence presented daily before their eyes, the 99% are wrong because they believe what's real. Tell, us, can you define what a woman is in any meaningful way? Do you think that a dude who thinks he is a woman, really is a woman and should get to operate in society like a woman - beating up girls in sports? You leftists have no hold on pretending you believe in science when you push the nonsense you do. Quote
Radiorum Posted December 26, 2025 Author Report Posted December 26, 2025 1 hour ago, User said: Tell, us, can you define what a woman is in any meaningful way? Why is this so important to you? Why do you have such trouble accepting variation as a normal and natural element of the human species? 1 hour ago, User said: Do you think that a dude who thinks he is a woman, really is a woman and should get to operate in society like a woman - beating up girls in sports? The "men in sports" is just a red herring - it is not the crux of the argument at all. Transgender persons are not fighting to participate in sports - they are desiring only to live according to their gender identity. 1 hour ago, User said: You leftists have no hold on pretending you believe in science when you push the nonsense you do. Science is not something you "believe in" - it is something you accept as valid. yes, I will accept as valid the current science over your prejudice and ignorance. Quote
User Posted December 26, 2025 Report Posted December 26, 2025 39 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Why is this so important to you? Why do you have such trouble accepting variation as a normal and natural element of the human species? LOL, the point was pretty clear. That folks like you don't get to act like you are all about the science when you pretend men and women are not different and some dude beating up women in sports is just fine because he thinks he is a woman and must actually be one! You have to contort language to make your dishonest unscientific point. 40 minutes ago, Radiorum said: The "men in sports" is just a red herring - it is not the crux of the argument at all. Transgender persons are not fighting to participate in sports - they are desiring only to live according to their gender identity. Um, no, it is one of the central points as folks like you push this BS onto little girls and women. And yes, transgender persons and their supporters like you are in fact fighting to be in sports. Why must you constantly lie? Here is one of the most obvious examples that proves you wrong, and you can't be that ignorant to not know about this.... "Transgender swimmer Lia Thomas lost a legal battle Wednesday challenging an effective ban on trans women competing in the highest levels of women's swimming, dashing her hopes of making the Summer Olympics in Paris next month." https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/lia-thomas-loses-legal-battle-2024-olympics-hopes-dashed-rcna156808 43 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Science is not something you "believe in" - it is something you accept as valid. yes, I will accept as valid the current science over your prejudice and ignorance. "the current science" AKA, leftist institutions that put out unscientific statements. You hide behind so-called experts, and you can't actually use science. Quote
eyeball Posted December 27, 2025 Report Posted December 27, 2025 3 hours ago, User said: Strawman: "You people appear to have some sort of obsession that you're always being lied to" That's an opinion. Calling an opinion a lie is a strawman and a ridiculous one at that. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
User Posted December 27, 2025 Report Posted December 27, 2025 Just now, eyeball said: That's an opinion. Calling an opinion a lie is a strawman and a ridiculous one at that. Calling something an opinion doesn't make it immune from criticism, being wrong, or being a strawman. If you want to hide behind "appears" then lets play your stupid game. As it appears you are a pedophile... See? Quote
eyeball Posted December 27, 2025 Report Posted December 27, 2025 40 minutes ago, User said: Calling something an opinion doesn't make it immune from criticism, being wrong, or being a strawman. None of which even come close to being a lie. Calling someone a liar for any of these immediately invalidates whatever value your own opinion might have. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
User Posted December 27, 2025 Report Posted December 27, 2025 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: None of which even come close to being a lie. Calling someone a liar for any of these immediately invalidates whatever value your own opinion might have. You are right, it is not a lie that you appear to be a pedophile... Quote
eyeball Posted December 27, 2025 Report Posted December 27, 2025 45 minutes ago, User said: If you want to hide behind "appears" then lets play your stupid game. As it appears you are a pedophile... See? Only that it appears you just ran away because you're a fùcking douchebag. IMO. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
User Posted December 27, 2025 Report Posted December 27, 2025 15 minutes ago, eyeball said: Only that it appears you just ran away because you're a fùcking douchebag. IMO. Says the person who appears to be a pedophile. Quote
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