eyeball Posted December 24, 2025 Report Posted December 24, 2025 3 hours ago, suds said: Take my word for it.... it's never gonna happen. I know, take my word for it. I'm simply pointing out what needs to be done to put an end to it. 3 hours ago, suds said: The thing is that even with the present situation the Israelis can live with the status quo while the Palestinians have to make a choice. That is if they want to have some kind of life to live for them and their children. And with the world just waiting to rebuild Gaza, it shouldn't be a difficult one. You would think so but...I just fear there's just too many people whose families were destroyed to expect all of them to let it go. Not to mention the ongoing Israeli efforts to continue dispossessing Palestinians of their territories, especially when its done violently. It's going to remain a tinder box for decades and decades to come. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
blackbird Posted December 24, 2025 Author Report Posted December 24, 2025 (edited) On 12/22/2025 at 5:11 PM, eyeball said: On 12/22/2025 at 4:23 PM, blackbird said: You are clueless. Do you know how small Israel already is? It is 20,770 square kilometers. Palestine would be much bigger - plenty of room for everyone. Israel is only about 20,000 square kilometers or equal to about 100 km width by 200 km in length. That is very small. They are not going to carve it up to give half to a bunch of people who want to eliminate Israel. There is lots of room for the Muslims in all the surrounding Muslim countries. Why don't those countries take them in? The answer is because the Palestinians want to eliminate Israel and have a Muslim caliphate. Those countries know they are nothing but trouble and would bring their wars to other countries. Edited December 24, 2025 by blackbird 1 Quote
I am Groot Posted December 24, 2025 Report Posted December 24, 2025 21 hours ago, eyeball said: If we were invaded, dispossessed, oppressed, subjugated, murdered and raped I'd hope someone would come do something about it too. None of that happened until the Arabs attacked. No complaints about the Jordanians deciding to take over the West Bank instead of giving it independence? Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
eyeball Posted December 24, 2025 Report Posted December 24, 2025 9 minutes ago, blackbird said: Why don't those countries take them in? Probably the same reason Canada didn't want anything to do with Jewish refugees. We even sent a boatload of them back to Hitler. That kinda makes us even worse than the Arabs don't you think? Especially since we should have known better. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted December 24, 2025 Report Posted December 24, 2025 10 minutes ago, I am Groot said: None of that happened until the Arabs attacked. It definitely happened before the Arabs attacked. Deir Yassin and the start of the Palestinian expulsions were in April. Arabs didn't attack until May. This fact has been made available in these threads numerous times and you are perfectly capable of looking it up yourself but you refuse. This is so emblematic of a capacity for denial that it qualifies as complicity. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
I am Groot Posted December 24, 2025 Report Posted December 24, 2025 11 hours ago, eyeball said: It definitely happened before the Arabs attacked. and the start of the Palestinian expulsions were in April. Arabs didn't attack until May. Palestinians and Jews had been actively fighting and killing each other for some time, and the Jewish quarter of Jerusalem was blockaded a number of times, as well. Many Jews were killed both before and after Deir Yassin, and before Arab armies attacked. 11 hours ago, eyeball said: This fact has been made available in these threads numerous times and you are perfectly capable of looking it up yourself but you refuse. This is so emblematic of a capacity for denial that it qualifies as complicity. I can't be complicit in something that happened before I was born. Stop hyperventilating about stuff. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
John Stone Posted December 24, 2025 Report Posted December 24, 2025 15 hours ago, WestCanMan said: British ships couldn't even stop in Irish ports during WWII. The Irish love being on the wrong side of history. Northern Ireland was open to allied shipping, but your criticism is well taken. I don't think it is unreasonable for the Irish to hope for a United Ireland? On the other hand historically, thousands of Irish have fought in the British military. Suppose the United States should be grateful for the Irish Famine - significantly increased the pop. of the Continent - swelled the ranks of the Union army as well. 1 Quote
Gaétan Posted December 24, 2025 Report Posted December 24, 2025 22 hours ago, suds said: Maybe we should be questioning the morality of the Palestinian leadership which has a hierarchy of billionaires and multi millionaires and not just in Gaza but the West Bank as well. The worse things are, the richer they all get. Maybe that should be addressed before questioning the morality of the Americans and Israelis. When it comes to morality and corruption, there's really no comparison. jmo We don’t need to read the cia’s lies here. Quote
Gaétan Posted December 24, 2025 Report Posted December 24, 2025 Borders dictated by kings, dictators, thieves, or conquerors deserve no respect. Quote
WestCanMan Posted December 24, 2025 Report Posted December 24, 2025 8 hours ago, John Stone said: On the other hand historically, thousands of Irish have fought in the British military. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddy_Mayne Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
suds Posted December 24, 2025 Report Posted December 24, 2025 3 hours ago, Gaétan said: We don’t need to read the cia’s lies here. Ok, I can keep an open mind about such things. Has anyone ever denied these accusations? I know it would be the first thing I'd do. Quote
Gaétan Posted December 25, 2025 Report Posted December 25, 2025 The latest elections in Chile and Honduras were corrupted by American public money. Trump can continue sending immigrants there to be tortured. Quote
John Stone Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 (edited) .............. got to wonder if, deep down, the so-called Palestinians regret not taking the 1947 U.N. partition idea. Today, the rhetoric revolves around a (2) state solution - kind of gone full circle? The other thing, on reflection and communication being so advanced is, do the so-called Palestinians feel they've been punked by their supposed Arab (and other) allies? The partition was a U.N. solution, post Brit mandate......... Edited January 1 by John Stone Quote
eyeball Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 On 1/1/2026 at 4:53 AM, John Stone said: The partition was a U.N. solution, post Brit mandate......... It got Britain off the hook which didn't solve anything. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
John Stone Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: It got Britain off the hook which didn't solve anything. haha - bet they're grateful for being off the hook tho As far as Israel went, 'don't look a gift camel in the mouth' - they ended up with a country - twice as much as they bargained for. Think how much farther ahead today the so-called Palestinians would have been if they'd have settled on the U.N. partition. Likely have ended up with flush toilets by now or more likely have been annexed by one of their Arab allies and of course still fighting for Israel's portion. Stupid is as stupid does. behold progress ........... I applaud Israel. Quote
eyeball Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 1 hour ago, John Stone said: Think how much farther ahead today the so-called Palestinians would have been if they'd have settled on the U.N. partition. After being forced at gunpoint - would you have settled for it? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
John Stone Posted January 3 Report Posted January 3 15 hours ago, eyeball said: After being forced at gunpoint - would you have settled for it? Is that what it was? The majority believe the gun was pointed at Israel in 1947 ........... and the Arabs pulled their trigger ........ Geo-political pawns first, most and always! Quote
eyeball Posted January 3 Report Posted January 3 3 hours ago, John Stone said: Is that what it was? Clearly. 3 hours ago, John Stone said: The majority believe the gun was pointed at Israel in 1947 ........... and the Arabs pulled their trigger These people have their heads up their asses. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
John Stone Posted January 3 Report Posted January 3 ........ if one person labels the so-called Palestinians donkeys....... the Palestinian's should ignore it ........ however, if the majority of the World labels Palestinian's, donkeys, they should all consider buying saddles. In all seriousness, their strategy going forward is going to have them sleeping in cardboard boxes and eating out of dumpsters .................. what's that(?) .... they're doing that now??? The devil you say! Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 On 12/23/2025 at 11:35 PM, I am Groot said: None of that happened until the Arabs attacked. No complaints about the Jordanians deciding to take over the West Bank instead of giving it independence? It began under the British. Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 On 12/18/2025 at 10:59 AM, I am Groot said: Britain didn't 'invade' Palestine. The Ottoman Empire ruled it until it shattered after joining the wrong side in WW1. The League of Nations appointed the British and French to take control of parts of their former empire. The 'local population' was about 700k, many of them nomadic Berbers who drifted back and forth through that entire area (Egypt, Palestine, Lebanon, Transjordan, Syria). There was no self-government then, nor had there ever been unless you go all the way back to the kingdom of Israel. And who might I ask ‘shattered’ the Ottoman empire or did it fall off a sideboard and break of its own accord? The British invaded Palestine. What happened after WWI was rank hypocrisy - freedom for some imperial subjects, especially in Eastern Europe on the losing side, but precious little for those nations ruled by Wilson’s buddies. The British prevented the Irish delegation from formally presenting its case. Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 (edited) On 12/17/2025 at 9:17 PM, eyeball said: Is it just me or is there something about the Russians that make them prone to being difficult to get along with? If so I bet the lack of democracy and the preponderance of authoritarianism in their history might explain it. Russians have tended to be more authoritarian than Europeans farther west. The conquest of Poland was a disaster. The Russian empire never fully accepted the new subjects it absorbed, both Christian and Jewish but especially Jewish. We can see how Russia regards its non-Russian citizens in the current war. Their casualties don’t matter. Edited January 29 by SpankyMcFarland Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
eyeball Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 2 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: We can see how Russia regards its non-Russian citizens in the current war. Their casualties don’t matter. Even the casualties don't think they matter? What a sorry sad bunch. What the hell's wrong with them I wonder. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
I am Groot Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 4 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: It began under the British. No, actually, it began with Muslim colonialism, when they violently invaded all the countries in this region, put to death or chased off many of their Christian citizens, and forced the rest to change their religion to Islam. The region you are furiously trying to accuse the British of 'invading' was invaded by the people there now. But you don't care about that, do you. You just need an excuse to blame the British and excuse the brown people. You're so noble, Mister White Knight. Show us your virtue. Flex for us, Sir Knight! Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
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