Ottawa orders new study on kids’ mental health after COVID lockdown warnings grow harder to ignore

[taxme]

On 11/30/2025 at 2:35 PM, CdnFox said:

I see you got a little down arrow from @ExFlyer

I know he's a scumbag but i'm surprised to see he SUPPORTS seniors dying alone. 

I guess that does help explain why the libs were able to get away with such things at the time. 

It was the "science" that did Canadians in. One of the big problems that Canada has to deal with today is that Canada has way too many imbeciles around like flyboy. Why does the fool keep posting down arrows all the time at some members here when those members make perfect sense. I guess that flyboy is a prime example of what a total idi0t really is. 🤮

[taxme]

On 12/2/2025 at 5:50 AM, Barquentine said:

It was the SPREAD of Covid we were fighting, with the best knowledge we had at the time. If we'd followed your idea of no isolation, we would have lost a lot more people.

Now, thanks to the anti-isolationists like you, next time we will lose more people to whatever killing disease sweeps the world.

How in the hell would you even know if isolation saved anyone or not? Oh, i know as to where you keep getting your bull chit from? The Canadian leftwing media that is where, right lefty? 

Canada and America shut their borders down for almost two years. Do you honestly believe and think that the so called covid virus stopped on it's flight path thru the border? Whether Canadians or Americans traveled across each others border, the virus would still be able to fly thru the open booths or up over the booths. It is still so amazing that there are still lieberal buffoons like you around that still believe that covid was a serious threat and all for real virus. 😛

As the old saying goes" There are suckers born every few minutes. It looks to me like you were born as just another  sucker at the 2 minute mark. So sad for you, sucker. 🤪 

[taxme]

On 11/30/2025 at 10:58 AM, Venandi said:

And it saddens me to think of the effect it had on seniors (confined to group homes) that found themselves isolated and alone at a time in their lives when they craved the support of family and friends the most. 

 

It sure looks to me that it is our useless good for nothing politicians in Ottawa that are the ones that have real mental health issues. Everything they seem to be doing these days on Par-lie-ment Ill pretty much smacks of them having some kind of mental illness. At the time of covid, those politicians in power during covid did not have the interest of any Canadian in mind. It was all about making money and using their political authoritarian communist like power to deny Canadians there rights and freedoms. Canadians were lied too and only now is the truth starting to be revealed. 

I will guarantee you that not one politician anywhere in Canada took the experimental covid jab. They already knew that is it was just going to be one big farce and lie and knew that the covid jab would not do anything to help save anyone's lives.

But on the contrary, the covid vaccine created many victims who got seriously ill, seriously injured, and some even died after taking the covid vaccine jab. So bloody sad indeed as to what our traitorous and treasonous politicians and their owned and controlled Canadian media have done to us and are still doing to us to this day. Just my opinion. 

 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

You would think ones like eyeball, barky, robo et al - they would be embarrassed at how easily manipulated they were during covid and ashamed of their support for things like lockdowns and forcing experimental medicine on children and pregnant women.

But no.

They're still here.  Super-proud of themselves. 

Put yourself in their shoes:

1. they have no relationship with the truth anyways, we've seen it in every other thread here
2. they gave their friends and family the same advice they gave here, no doubt exerting as much influence as they could to get their own kids and grandkids jabbed, and they may have even been harmed by following that terrible advice. 

Do they really want to admit to harming their own family members? Or giving their family members the wrong advice, which could have cost them their lives when they weren't even at risk?

Why wouldn't they just keep on lying? What do eyeball and ex-flyer stand to gain from ever telling the truth?

CBC will never admit to anything, and until they do, all the cultists can just keep telling the same old lies. 

 

The official version of the story will never change: Fauci was awesome and completely trustworthy, Trudeau was brilliant, martial law was necessary, the unvaxed were all racists and misogynists, Trump failed, the jabs worked as advertised, horse-dewormer was a cruel joke that was played on right-wing conspiracy theorists, only the unvaxed died in 2022, the jabs ended the pandemic, everyone needs boosters, everyone should get the flu jabs, doctors who spoke out against the propaganda are lucky to not be in jail.  

We're dealing with cultists and a-holes. These people are a huge waste of oxygen. 

[Barquentine]

13 hours ago, taxme said:

right lefty

Make up your mind.

 

13 hours ago, taxme said:

that still believe that covid was a serious threat and all for real virus. 😛

Excuse me... how many people died from Covid?

 

13 hours ago, taxme said:

shut their borders down for almost two years

Due to the very efficient lockdown in the Maritimes, it was called "The Safest Place on Earth" at the time.

[Barquentine]

18 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

They have ten times our population and ten times our population density, but only 20x our deaths in 2020. 15,000 vs 350,000.

I have already corrected that mistake. Americans died at twice the RATE Canadians did. Their 1.2 milliion versus our 60,000.

 

18 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The entire population of Alberta rides on the NYC Subway every day, and then those people get off the train and mingle at offices, restaurants, gyms, bars, etc with 11M more people just within the city of NY, plus 10M more people in the NYC Metro area

So you're admitting that better lockdowns would have worked.

[WestCanMan]

45 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

I have already corrected that mistake. Americans died at twice the RATE Canadians did. Their 1.2 milliion versus our 60,000.

It wasn't corrected when I made my post, and there are factors make that higher rate make sense, obesity being the main one. We have our share of obese people in both countries, but the US lead the world in MASSIVE people. 

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So you're admitting that better lockdowns would have worked.

It stands to reason that if every single human sat inside their house for a month and never went outside, covid would have stopped in its tracks, but that's not possible. It also stands to reason that preventing people from going to public parks was not necessary or beneficial. 

Are you admitting that we shouldn't have let people fly in from China before we had covid here, and that we shouldn't have let them wander around through our airports, malls, restaurants, bars, etc?

How do you guys come up with the brainwave that allowing people to come here from covid central for months and then walk inside of our buildings was the right thing to do, but then ten days later we needed to prevent all Canadians from going anywhere, including "walking outside in parks"?

Covid policies were just stupid beyond all belief. Our gov't couldn't have been more wrong about anything they did. The fact that you don't understand that says a lot about you.

[Goddess]

Absolutely everything eyeball wrote is FALSE.

We did not know how many children were dying from the jab and we still do not know.  We are finding out now and it will take years before the full extent of the damage is known.

Eyeball, you are repeating false information from the beginning of the covid fiasco and you refuse to accept any new information or data.

This was an EXPERIMENTAL injection with EXPERIMENTAL non-medical interventions.

Why do you not understand that?

As the data comes out, we will learn more and more.  Yet, you are firm in refusing to accept the results of all this experimentation.

I get it - you cheerled and demonized all through this.

It looks really bad for you.  You will either need to humble yourself and accept that you were manipulated into the mass hysteria for nothing and that it caused much unnecessary death or you can cling to all the unscientific measures that were HOPED for at the beginning.

I doubt you will move forward.  You supported killing children for adults and that - in almost every culture and almost every time period throughout history - has been morally unacceptable.

It's why you disgust me.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

Absolutely everything eyeball wrote is FALSE.

When isn't that the case, tbh...

In another thread he's trying to make the case that the Arab-Israeli issues started in 1948, and Oct 7th was justified by what happened in 1948, and nothing before 1948 has any bearing.

He always has a reason for justifying the unjustifiable. Even the LPOC giving the CBC and "select media outlets" hundreds of millions of dollars at every election is "necessary". 

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We did not know how many children were dying from the jab and we still do not know. 

I think that's the 3rd step in an alarming trend:

1. there was a widespread, concerted effort to lend the false impression that children somehow "needed" a vaccine, and that the risk was worth it, when there was no data at all supporting either assertion: neither sickness on the part of children nor evidence to show that the jabs were slowing the spread of covid. It was always a high-risk/zero-benefit scenario, from a purely scientific POV.
2. The child injuries came after the widespread, concerted effort to ignore & refute any possibility that there was a connection between vaccines and serious injury and/or death in young adults... they were vaxed before any children ever started to be vaxed. The "canary in the coalmine" was young adults dying and being severely injured but somehow we willfully ignored that and moved on to vaxing children
3. It was only at that point that we started putting maximal effort into ignoring childhood vax-injuries.

 

Edited December 5, 2025 by WestCanMan

[Goddess]

In March 2022, Dr. Joseph Fraiman taped an internal call between FDA directors and physicians who were concerned about mRNA side effects in their patients – including the cardiac arrest and sudden death of a 7-year-old days after being injected with Pfizer's mRNA vaccine.

 "This was a top level meeting of directors," Dr. Fraiman revealed to Ask Dr. Drew in Sept 2023.

"This entire meeting terrified my entire work group." The call – legally recorded by Dr. Fraiman – included FDA Director Dr. Peter Marks, Dr. Peter Doshi, Dr. Celia Witten, Dr. Sarah Walinsky, Dr. Lorrie McNeill, and many other experts.

"What they're saying here is they're not doing statistical testing on adverse events. This is really insane to me," Dr. Fraiman continued. "You know there's a problem if the vaccine group has a higher rate of them."

In the call, UCLA pediatric specialist Dr. Patrick Whelan told FDA directors that he filed a VAERS report about a 7-year-old patient who "had a cardiac arrest following his first Pfizer vaccination" but says he "didn't receive any follow up."

"The patient died about 8 days later," says Dr. Whelan. "There's something wrong with the reporting system."

Listen to the call at:  https://youtu.be/OTBQXRnBHkE

[WestCanMan]

37 minutes ago, Goddess said:

"What they're saying here is they're not doing statistical testing on adverse events. This is really insane to me," Dr. Fraiman continued. "You know there's a problem if the vaccine group has a higher rate of them."

Willful ignorance of such critical information, when it's detrimental to profits, is malicious. 

When you know that you're going to harm people, and you do it anyways, with zero effort spent on a risk/reward analysis - it's just "profits first", that's malice.

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In the call, UCLA pediatric specialist Dr. Patrick Whelan told FDA directors that he filed a VAERS report about a 7-year-old patient who "had a cardiac arrest following his first Pfizer vaccination" but says he "didn't receive any follow up."

"The patient died about 8 days later," says Dr. Whelan. "There's something wrong with the reporting system."

When the death of a 7-yr-old is meaningless to someone, you can put that person into the "piece of shit" category and leave them there for life. No reassessment is ever required. 

[User]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

So you're admitting that better lockdowns would have worked.

This is a pretty absurd statement.

Yes, if we went full martial law, and locked everyone in their basements, that would “work” if the only metric you cared about was the spread of an infectious disease.

I mean, who cares about all the other problems that would cause…

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, Goddess said:

This was an EXPERIMENTAL injection with EXPERIMENTAL non-medical interventions.

Why do you not understand that?

What isn't there to understand, it was experimental for decades before COVID.

Research into mRNA technology began in the 1970s, with scientists applying it to vaccine development in the 1990s. The first human clinical trial for an infectious disease (rabies) began in 2013. 

Experimental Timeline

1990: Researchers successfully injected "naked" mRNA into mice muscle, leading to protein production in the cells. This was the first evidence of mRNA working in a living animal.

1990s: Research continued with the first animal studies for an influenza vaccine in 1993, and for cancer immunotherapies shortly after.

2000s–2010s: Key breakthroughs included figuring out how to modify mRNA to avoid triggering an intense inflammatory immune response, and developing lipid nanoparticles (tiny fat droplets) to protect and deliver the fragile mRNA into cells effectively.

2013: The first human clinical trial for an mRNA vaccine targeting an infectious agent (rabies virus) began.

Pre-2020: Clinical trials were conducted for mRNA vaccines against other viruses such as influenza, Zika, MERS, and Chikungunya.

December 2020: The Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines received emergency use authorization, the first widespread use of mRNA vaccines in humans. 

Side Effects

Side effects in clinical trials and in widespread use have been overwhelmingly mild and transient, a sign that the immune system is working as intended. The most common side effects of authorized mRNA vaccines include: 

At the injection site:

Pain, redness, and swelling.

Throughout the rest of the body:

Fatigue (tiredness)

Headache

Muscle pain and joint pain

Chills

Fever

Swollen lymph nodes 

A few serious, but rare, adverse events have been identified in the post-market surveillance of the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines, specifically myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart), primarily in adolescent and young adult males. The risk is considered very low, and the benefits of vaccination in preventing severe disease and death from COVID-19 are widely considered to outweigh the potential risks. 

This is for informational purposes only. For medical advice or diagnosis, consult a professional. AI responses may include mistakes. Learn more

Sure it's just AI but the professionals I consult are still recommending I keep getting the jabs and my daughter says the same thing about her and her kids when she asks. The real world experience of million upon millions of people jibe with the risks, benefits and recommendations of the vast vast majority of medical experts.

You think it's all some nefarious global network of conspirators killing us. It's really really weird.

[WestCanMan]

32 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What isn't there to understand, it was experimental for decades before COVID.

Research into mRNA technology began in the 1970s, with scientists applying it to vaccine development in the 1990s. The first human clinical trial for an infectious disease (rabies) began in 2013. 

Holy f'ing logic-warp, Batman.

1. That shit has been relegated to the experimental stages for 6 decades
2. in all of those 6 decades they never managed to come up with a single working vax that was safe
3. then they belched out the covid jab out in 6 months, start to finish, and gave it to billions of people after no more than a superficial level of trials, only by the vax-manufacturers themselves
4. you know that it occasionally kills people
5. you know that tens of thousands of people, in 1 year in Canada alone, died of covid after taking the jabs
6. you think that's somehow "solid grounds for taking the 'boosters'" 🤣😂

WTF would it take for you to call the jabs "dangerous and useless"? A twenty percent fatality rate within two minutes of the first shot, a 95% chance of acquiring covid, and a 45% CFR? If it was that bad, would you call it a failure, or would it have to be even worse than that?

Dude, because I like you, I'm gonna give you a 1-time offer to buy the Golden Gate Bridge from me for the low, low price of $5M. Load the cash into bags of flour and drive it to me in Venezuela, using a speedboat. I will be there in twenty minutes. Thanks in advance.  

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

it was experimental for decades before COVID.

It takes about 10 years of testing before a vaccine is marketed.

Why were mRNA injections never marketed after "decades" of experiments?

Do you know the answer to that?

Because I do.

 

[Goddess]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

You think it's all some nefarious global network of conspirators killing us.

No.  I think it's a few greedy people who knew they were going to make billions of $$ and a network of useful id10ts, like yourself.

It's not really all that far-fetched.  Big Pharma has a long history of doing exactly that.

Heard about the opioid crisis?  The "vast vast majority of doctors" recommended that, too.

Heard about Vioxx?

Thalidomide?

Gardasil?

The swine flu fiasco of 1976?

 

[eyeball]

51 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Heard about the opioid crisis?  The "vast vast majority of doctors" recommended that, too.

Yup, they sure did.

51 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Heard about Vioxx?

Thalidomide?

Gardasil?

The swine flu fiasco of 1976?

Vioxx...voluntarily withdrawn by Big Pharma due to side effects.

Thalidomide...withdrawn, fairly quickly once it was obvious it caused birth defects. The birth defects of thalidomide led to the development of greater drug regulation and monitoring in many countries. WTF!?! How did Big Pharma let that go by?

Gardasil...what about it, looks a little controversial but I don't see much in the way of a criminal global conspiracy reported to be surrounding it's use.

The swine flu fiasco of 1976...a famous well known mistake based on an over-confidence in science. It was a well studied event and much was learned from it. A far better example of the self-correcting nature of science, not the machinations of a few greedy people.

That said...

51 minutes ago, Goddess said:

No.  I think it's a few greedy people who knew they were going to make billions of $$ and a network of useful id10ts, like yourself.

I'm sure this happens all right, I became aware of it 50 years ago in the fishing industry. I'm well aware of what corruption is and how it often depends on the complicity of public officials.

So knowing this why haven't we got robust institutions of accountability and transparency that would make Orwell himself blush? How come you shit all over the only id10t that calls for that around here?

Oh right, I'm just lying or worse orchestrating it all from my command bunker or something. LMAO!

 

Edited December 5, 2025 by eyeball

[taxme]

7 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Make up your mind.

 

Excuse me... how many people died from Covid?

 

Due to the very efficient lockdown in the Maritimes, it was called "The Safest Place on Earth" at the time.

I already did. Being right is right and being left is just plain stupid. LOL.

I don't know as to how many people died from covid and neither do you. We all just went by what the lying and fake lieberal media told us had died. Many people who died because of other health or injury related causes were lumped in with being victims of covid. No one knows for certain as to how many people have died from covid. It was not covid that injured or killed people, it was the covid vaccine that did that job. 

A real story. I read one time that a motorcycle rider who was killed in an accident, and when they did an autopsy, they found some covid in his body, and then he was reported by the lying and fake lieberal media, and the lying medical establishment, as dying from covid. Do you believe everything that the medical establishment tells you? 

And again, how do you know that the Maritimes was the safest place on earth? Did you get that from the lying lieberal media and the lying medical establishment? Nobody can produce any real evidence to show anyone that the covid vaccine saved anyone's life. As a matter of fact the covid vaccine caused more harm to people than did them any good. 

But you being a stunned lieberal and all, you will believe anything that your lying lieberal politicians and the lying Canadian MSM says. You will no doubt fall for the next planned covid like plandemic when the big pharma globalist powers to be decide that it is time to create another fake virus. 

Some people's kids. Terrible. 😁

[Barquentine]

15 hours ago, taxme said:

Many people who died because of other health or injury related causes were lumped in with being victims of covid. No one knows for certain as to how many people have died from covid. It was not covid that injured or killed people, it was the covid vaccine that did that job. 

A real story. I read one time that a motorcycle rider who was killed in an accident, and when they did an autopsy, they found some covid in his body, and then he was reported by the lying and fake lieberal media, and the lying medical establishment, as dying from covid. Do you believe everything that the medical establishment tells you? 

What a bunch of id!otic, asinine, Q-anon, right-wing, puerile, ignorant, simple-minded, steaming pile of sh!te!

Does your mom make you wear your hockey helmet all the time or does the tinfoil hat protect you?

[Venandi]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

What a bunch of id!otic, asinine, Q-anon, right-wing, puerile, ignorant, simple-minded, steaming pile of sh!te!

I happen to know a young lady who sprained her ankle during a TKD class and missed a day of school because of it. According to her parents it was deemed to be a covid absence. At the time I simply assumed that was a clerical thing... now I'm not so sure. 

Funny thing though, your insults and protestations actually do have sway with me... but in the opposite direction of what you probably think.

 

[Legato]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

What a bunch of id!otic, asinine, Q-anon, right-wing, puerile, ignorant, simple-minded, steaming pile of sh!te!

Does your mom make you wear your hockey helmet all the time or does the tinfoil hat protect you?

What a bunch of priggish, primness, priggery, prudery, puritanism, Comstockery, old-maidishness, prudishness, snobby, self righteous cold comfort.

Why the anger, did someone melt down your tinfoil hat?

[CdnFox]

13 hours ago, Barquentine said:

What a bunch of id!otic, asinine, Q-anon, right-wing, puerile, ignorant, simple-minded, steaming pile of sh!te!

Does your mom make you wear your hockey helmet all the time or does the tinfoil hat protect you?

Wow.  You must really have thought he had a point to poop your panties THAT bad kiddo  

Next time try refuting points, it'll make you look a lot less silly and desperate.  And if you can't.... well that tells you something about your views doesn't it. 

[Barquentine]

21 hours ago, Legato said:

Why the anger, did someone melt down your tinfoil hat?

Oh I wouldn't waste anger on him. But apparently you didn't read his post.

[Legato]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

Oh I wouldn't waste anger on him. But apparently you didn't read his post.

Apparently you don't appear to realise that your anger is always present.

Yes I did did the post and your response was as daft as a brush.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Oh I wouldn't waste anger on him. But apparently you didn't read his post.

You waste anger on him constantly. Do you honestly believe the rest of us don't remember what you said like 5 minutes ago or last week or yesterday or anything?

You have a strong hatred for the man. That is painfully obvious. Lying about it just makes you look like some weird sort of tsundere character