blackbird Posted October 25, 2025 Report Posted October 25, 2025 This shows where Carney's priorities are. Instead of staying in Canada and trying to stop the Trump tariffs, Carney is jetting around the world to various meetings with other globalist elite. Meanwhile hundreds of Canadians are losing their jobs and thousands more jobs are threatened. Where are Carney's priorities. Doesn't seem like with Canadians. Even now, with Trump just cutting off negotiations completely, Carney is still going to southeast Asia for more meetings. Increasing trade takes years and the immediate problem is the Trump tariffs which need a resolution to save Canadians jobs and their livelihoods for their families. quote Prime Minister Mark Carney and U.S. President Donald Trump in Alberta for a G7 meeting, June 16, 2025. The past two weeks have revealed the disastrous consequences of Mark Carney’s failure to negotiate some sort of relief from Donald Trump’s punishing tariffs on Canadian exports. And Canadian workers have paid the price. Two weeks ago, automaker Stellantis announced plans to move Jeep Compass production from a Brampton, Ontario, plant to Illinois. 3,000 jobs will be lost. In Ingersoll, Ontario, GM halted production of electric vehicles, laying off hundreds of workers. Truck manufacturer Paccar Inc. then announced that 300 workers would be laid off at its plant in Sainte-Thérèse, Quebec. This is just the beginning. Oshawa’s GM assembly plant will scale back production starting this fall, with 700 to 1,000 layoffs hitting Canadian workers. This wreckage is a direct result of Trump’s 25% tariffs on Canadian automobiles exported to the U.S., as well as his new 25% tariff on heavy-duty trucks. Corporations with the ability to do so are shifting production to the U.S., leaving Canadian workers in the dust. This raises the question: What has Prime Minister Mark Carney been doing for the past six months while the tariffs have been in place? It seems clear that getting some relief from these tariffs took a back seat to Carney’s decision to jet around the world, putting in appearances at U.N. meetings and summits. The prime minister should have been laser-focused on resolving the tariff threat. But he wasn’t. In fact: Carney was warned that any delays in securing a new deal with Trump would have disastrous consequences for Canadians, especially the vulnerable automaker sector. But those warnings appear to have been ignored by the government. Carney seems to have thought that generous government funding would be enough to keep production in Canada and out of the U.S. Many of the multinational corporations now leaving Canadian workers high and dry have been the recipients of major moolah from the governments of Canada and Ontario. These funding packages were designed to convince those companies to keep jobs here rather than moving them to Illinois or Alabama or wherever. Stellantis, for example, has cashed in on the Liberal government’s naivety. The federal government gave Stellantis $105 million to retool two Ontario plants, only to see the company take the money and run. That’s in addition to another $529 million the feds forked over to Stellantis in 2022 to help the corporation modernize its plants so they could produce more electric vehicles — for which demand has plummeted. Now, it’s clear the Liberals made a bad bet and have lost the farm. In response, Quebec ministers Mélanie Joly and François-Philippe Champagne have promised they will be re-examining the deals they inked to see if they can sue Stellantis’ pants off to recover some of the hundreds of millions of taxpayers’ dollars they’ve lost. It’s doubtful they can recover a nickel. But even if they can: so what? The jobs that those dollars were meant to protect are gone and unlikely to ever return. Carney and his team look downright incompetent in seeming to think that their financial incentives would keep production in Canada in the face of Trump’s massive tariffs. Didn’t we elect Carney precisely because he was seen as an expert in these matters? As if things weren’t bad enough, they weren’t helped by Ontario Premier Doug Ford’s big mouth. On Thursday, Trump announced he was suspending trade talks with Canada altogether after Ontario unveiled a provocative and misleading advertising campaign that Trump took umbrage with. But Ford’s screw-up mattered less than many might think. Beforehand, Carney admitted that a trade deal with Trump was “no longer within reach,” and that any relief on Trump’s tariffs would be pushed off until at least next year. We’re already seeing the disastrous consequences of those 25% tariffs. Carney needed to get relief. Even a reduction would have made a difference. But instead, he’s waving the white flag and promising to check in again in 2026. Indeed, with Carney at the helm, those 25% tariffs may become permanent. Entire sections of the Canadian manufacturing economy will come to an end in that situation — beginning with automakers. Facing this potential future wasteland in manufacturing, surely the federal government must be doing everything possible to boost the economy in other sectors? Well, not really. In a much-ballyhooed primetime speech this week, Carney promised to double non-U.S. exports by 2035. That’s an easy promise to make. But the things that must be done to achieve it are much harder. For example: Does Carney support a new pipeline from Alberta to the B.C. coast to get Canadian energy products to tidewater? He won’t say, despite such a pipeline being crucial to boosting exports to non-U.S. countries. Carney was elected because he promised he was the best man to deal with Trump’s tariffs. That has been an unmitigated disaster. Now, after his failure to get a deal, he’s promising to transform the Canadian export economy — just without committing to doing anything that’s politically unpopular to get there. At some point, Canadians will hopefully begin to see through the promises. Trump ends trade talks with Canada over “fake” Reagan ad — Royce Koop is a professor of political studies at the University of Manitoba, and a guest writer for the Winnipeg Sun." KOOP: With failure to get a tariff deal, Carney’s blunders are adding up 1 1 Quote
eyeball Posted October 25, 2025 Report Posted October 25, 2025 From the article... Carney was elected because he promised he was the best man to deal with Trump’s tariffs. He never actually used the word promise, he only asserted this. Asserting something does not mean promising it. Is insisting it does just another overstatement or a lie? Is hearing it being repeated over and over again supposed to inculcate confidence verging on a promise from the people repeating it? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
herbie Posted October 25, 2025 Report Posted October 25, 2025 Oh FFS the guy's implying that instead of flying to ASEAN to drum up new trade he should stay in Ottawa with his thumb up his ass and Trump's dick in his mouth. Otherwise who other than the whiner PeePee LePew would create such a topic headline? 3 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 25, 2025 Report Posted October 25, 2025 "Globalist Meetings'... just a wild thought but it probably stands to reason that you have to travel the globe if you want to expand your trade with countries around the globe. Either that or you can just do teams meetings, texts or emails and hope something happens... It doesn't take a scholar to figure out what Carney's priorities are... agree to a deal that benefits Canadian's. If the deal doesn't benefit, don't agree to it. Carney learned that in 9th grade negotiating 101. Poilievre is still trying to google it... Quote
blackbird Posted October 25, 2025 Author Report Posted October 25, 2025 22 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: It doesn't take a scholar to figure out what Carney's priorities are.. What are you talking about? Carney is not even on scene doing his job. He is busy jetting around the world just like Trudeau did. While Rome burns, the Emperor is playing his fiddle. quote There is some reason to hope that Carney has some ideas about uplifting Canadians. But if he clings to his public record of economic self-strangulation through the green psychosis, and a nagging authoritarian state slapping down personal material ambitions as insufficiently altruistic, his government and the country will disintegrate with startling speed. " Conrad Black: For the sake of the country, Carney must drop his green obsessions Quote
herbie Posted October 25, 2025 Report Posted October 25, 2025 If you think globalist means something negative, you must be an obstinate blockhead. You trade with the world, that's how the entire world developed. If you're a Cdn isolationist, you must be insane. Enjoy life without oranges and affordable TVs, computers, cars and clothing. 1 1 Quote
paxamericana Posted October 25, 2025 Report Posted October 25, 2025 6 minutes ago, herbie said: a Cdn isolationist, you must be insane There is a third option. You can be a North American isolationist and still enjoy affordable TV computers cars and clothing. Yes, it would mean trading your soul to America. This is the power of being the world currency reserve. Print endless money . Quote
blackbird Posted October 25, 2025 Author Report Posted October 25, 2025 7 minutes ago, herbie said: If you think globalist means something negative, you must be an obstinate blockhead. You trade with the world, that's how the entire world developed. If you're a Cdn isolationist, you must be insane. Enjoy life without oranges and affordable TVs, computers, cars and clothing. Corporation do the trading, not the government. Who do you think produces all the goods to sell to other countries. Do we really need to be paying for Trudeau and Carney to be jetting around the world all the time? I don't think so. Companies can sell their goods to the rest of the world themselves. 1 Quote
herbie Posted October 25, 2025 Report Posted October 25, 2025 11 minutes ago, blackbird said: Corporation do the trading, not the government Oh so you're a socialist now, you recognize that fact. That's why you object to govt doing their bidding. Maybe he should stay home and print money to hand out so the workers don't starve while the corporations get their shit together? Quote
eyeball Posted October 25, 2025 Report Posted October 25, 2025 17 minutes ago, blackbird said: Companies can sell their goods to the rest of the world themselves. Not to the US though, then they need their governments to go kiss Trump's ass for them. Screw them too. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
LinkSoul60 Posted October 25, 2025 Report Posted October 25, 2025 1 hour ago, blackbird said: What are you talking about? Carney is not even on scene doing his job. He is busy jetting around the world just like Trudeau did. While Rome burns, the Emperor is playing his fiddle. He's either doing it for the Aeroplan miles, or to actually meet with the people that he wants to have trade relationships with. Got to be one or the other... 1 Quote
blackbird Posted October 26, 2025 Author Report Posted October 26, 2025 (edited) Why doesn't Carney send the minister of foreign affairs or a trade minister or representative so he can look after more important major issues here in Canada? Why are we paying all these cabinet ministers big bucks? They have big staffs and the expertise to deal with foreign trade meetings. Carney is no expert on everything anyway. No reason why Carney has to be at these meeting in foreign countries. His job is to govern Canadian matters first. Edited October 26, 2025 by blackbird Quote
BeaverFever Posted November 6, 2025 Report Posted November 6, 2025 Travelling abroad is literally part of the job of the prime minister. And in this case it’s to form trade ties and investment to boost the economy I don’t see you complaining about Trump traveling abroad and I doubt you complained when Harper did. Get a grip. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted November 6, 2025 Report Posted November 6, 2025 On 10/25/2025 at 11:50 AM, eyeball said: From the article... Carney was elected because he promised he was the best man to deal with Trump’s tariffs. He never actually used the word promise, he only asserted this. Asserting something does not mean promising it. Is insisting it does just another overstatement or a lie? Is hearing it being repeated over and over again supposed to inculcate confidence verging on a promise from the people repeating it? Are you back to this lie? Do you need me to post the dictionary definition for you again? If you make a commitment to do something that is making the promise. Typical liberal, promises something and then when he fails to deliver he tries to get his lawyer to talk his way out of it 🙄🙄🙄 Why don't you just say he had his fingers crossed behind his back for god's sake. You're such a child Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted November 6, 2025 Report Posted November 6, 2025 28 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Are you back to this lie? Do you need me to post the dictionary definition for you again? If you make a commitment to do something that is making the promise. Sure but you're acting as if the other way Mirriam Webster defines it is the case. a legally binding declaration that gives the person to whom it is made a right to expect or to claim the performance or forbearance of a specified act. But of course you act like this at Christmas time When Santa doesn't come thru so...go figure. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted November 6, 2025 Report Posted November 6, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, eyeball said: Sure but you're acting as if the other way Mirriam Webster defines it is the case. a legally binding declaration that gives the person to whom it is made a right to expect or to claim the performance or forbearance of a specified act. But of course you act like this at Christmas time When Santa doesn't come thru so...go figure. Nobody claimed it was illegal binding document. Which is what illegal promise is Here's the definition again: a declaration or assurance that one will do a particular thing or that a particular thing will happen. Did he make a declaration or assurance that he would do a particular thing or that a particular thing would happen? Yep. Promise. And everyone knows that. But instead you try to suggest that because there's a less common less well used definition that obviously doesn't apply and wasn't what the poster meant that somehow he couldn't possibly have meant the more common version. So basically once again you lied to defend the liberals, wbom you never ever ever support honest! And thanks for sharing your family photos. I'd be crying too if I was your kid Edited November 6, 2025 by CdnFox Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted November 7, 2025 Report Posted November 7, 2025 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: Nobody claimed it was illegal binding document I'm claiming you act as if it were, because you do. 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: So, basically once again you lied to defend the liberals, wbom you never ever ever support honest! I certainly don't take what they say to the bank the way you do Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Michael Hardner Posted November 7, 2025 Report Posted November 7, 2025 On 11/5/2025 at 7:32 PM, BeaverFever said: Travelling abroad is literally part of the job of the prime minister. Right? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
CdnFox Posted November 7, 2025 Report Posted November 7, 2025 5 hours ago, eyeball said: I'm claiming you act as if it were, because you do. Nobody acted that way at all. What's your claiming isn't relevant, you know you're wrong so you're going to say anything you can to try and distract from it As I have proven yet again you were lying and you're incorrect. Very efficient Quote I certainly don't take what they say to the bank the way you do You mean you think that liberal politicians are lying. Fair enough Then I guess the difference between us is that realizing that they're lying is enough of a reason for me to not vote for them. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Down East Posted November 7, 2025 Report Posted November 7, 2025 On 10/25/2025 at 2:17 PM, blackbird said: Indeed, with Carney at the helm, those 25% tariffs may become permanent. I doubt they will remain permanent. You might have to suffer through the next 3 years of Trump, but even him can flip on a dime and start calling Canada our best friend. You just never know with this guy. Quote
eyeball Posted November 7, 2025 Report Posted November 7, 2025 9 hours ago, CdnFox said: You mean you think that liberal politicians are lying. Fair enough You promise? I doubt that. LMAO! 9 hours ago, CdnFox said: Then I guess the difference between us is that realizing that they're lying is enough of a reason for me to not vote for them. Sure kid...except that's the only thing we've got in common. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
I am Groot Posted November 7, 2025 Report Posted November 7, 2025 On 10/25/2025 at 5:50 PM, herbie said: If you think globalist means something negative, you must be an obstinate blockhead. You trade with the world, that's how the entire world developed. If you're a Cdn isolationist, you must be insane. Enjoy life without oranges and affordable TVs, computers, cars and clothing. We had oranges and TVs before you guilt-ridden Canada haters invited in the third world to swamp us with goat herders who hate Jews, think western women are whores that are theirs for the taking, and have little interest in working for a living. 2 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
I am Groot Posted November 7, 2025 Report Posted November 7, 2025 On 11/5/2025 at 7:32 PM, BeaverFever said: Travelling abroad is literally part of the job of the prime minister. And in this case it’s to form trade ties and investment to boost the economy It's a very small part. He's made it the main part. Political leaders to not establish 'trade ties' nor do they get investment in our economy. All of that comes from private sector organizations that see a profit to be made. No one is going to invest billions in a country when they don't see the likelihood of a decent return, nor when they can get a better return elsewhere. If Carney wanted foreign investment, he'd be slashing the regulatory burden that is busy strangling business and industry, but he's not. This is the problem with the Left. They don't like or trust the private sector. They insist on doing things themselves. So instead of establishing a good environment where foreign companies might want to come and build battery plants, for example, they shower them with billions in taxpayer money. And get nothing in return. Carney wants to invest billions in things the private sector should be investing in but won't because of Carney's regulations. On 10/25/2025 at 6:52 PM, LinkSoul60 said: He's either doing it for the Aeroplan miles, or to actually meet with the people that he wants to have trade relationships with. Got to be one or the other... Do you understand the nature of trade? Because it has nothing to do with governmental leaders shaking hands in front of cameras. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
herbie Posted November 7, 2025 Report Posted November 7, 2025 3 hours ago, I am Groot said: We had oranges and TVs before you guilt-ridden Canada haters invited in the third world to swamp us with goat herders who hate Jews, think western women are whores that are theirs for the taking, and have little interest in working for a living. By the rivers of Babylon, they babbled on... and on an on Quote
paxamericana Posted November 7, 2025 Report Posted November 7, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, herbie said: By the rivers of Babylon, they babbled on... and on an on You know for a book hater you're seem well verse... that was a gift from our forebears, a road map to eternal truth. Be grateful. Edited November 7, 2025 by paxamericana Quote
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