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Lmao...she has no empathy. We use logic. Fear is an emotion. It does not play. We are not afraid of illegal immigrants. We know that illegal immigration leads to immigrants getting raped or killed, lower wages, job losses for legal residents and higher social program costs. There is no fear of that. That is what it is. 

She has no empathy because she doesn't understand what logic is. She uses emotion as her thinking tool. So she assumes that we do the same. She is wrong, as are you. 

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

they believe there's only  ONE definition. 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cognitive dissonance

Just

One

Definition

 

Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it? 

 

 

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@Fluffypants Thanks for proving how DISHONEST YOU ARE

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4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

@Fluffypants Thanks for proving how DISHONEST YOU ARE

He's not wrong.

But you illustrate my point perfectly. In her video, she claims that conservatives get angry when presented with facts. However, I said she is liberal and lacking empathy so she is projecting her reactions. Then you come along and prove me right by having an emotional, anger based reaction to facts. Thus disproving her thesis. 

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Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it? 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

He's not wrong.

But you illustrate my point perfectly. In her video, she claims that conservatives get angry when presented with facts. However, I said she is liberal and lacking empathy so she is projecting her reactions. Then you come along and prove me right by having an emotional, anger based reaction to facts. Thus disproving her thesis. 

Bullshit. Study after study shows that undocumented immigrants are a net positive for the economy, commit crimes at lower rates than citizens, pay taxes into our system, and are not eligible for most social programs. 

Those are the facts. You simply reject them because MAGA doesn't like brown people. Brown people don't have any place in there MAGA vision for a white, Christian nationalism--with men dominating the power structure. That's not logic. It's emotion. An ugly one. 

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1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Bullshit. Study after study shows that undocumented immigrants are a net positive for the economy, commit crimes at lower rates than citizens, pay taxes into our system, and are not eligible for most social programs. 

Those are the facts. You simply reject them because MAGA doesn't like brown people. Brown people don't have any place in there MAGA vision for a white, Christian nationalism--with men dominating the power structure. That's not logic. It's emotion. An ugly one. 

I was talking about how liberals make emotional, anger basdd responses to facts and you chimed in to prove me correct. 

Even if what you said about immigration was correct, my response was an intellectual response using logic and reason. Your response was an emotional eruption of anger. You have proven me correct once again. 

Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it? 

 

 

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2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

she has no empathy.

Empathy is not an emotion per se but a complex process that involves both understanding and feeling others' emotions, she clearly exhibits a capacity for both. A little snarkiness comes thru perhaps but c'mon, it's 2025, grow up.l1lq

In any case she's correct to point to the amygdala as something that's clearly bigger in more people who identify as conservative than it is in lefties. The amygdala governs fear and the thinking is that the more conservative the individual the bigger the amygdala and the greater the fear...an emotion that all too often overwhelms logic along with the ability to think straight about almost anything.

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I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

I was talking about how liberals make emotional, anger basdd responses to facts and you chimed in to prove me correct. 

Even if what you said about immigration was correct, my response was an intellectual response using logic and reason. Your response was an emotional eruption of anger. You have proven me correct once again. 

Calling your fact free response bullshit is not an emotional response, it is a rational response to your LIES.

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29 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Empathy is not an emotion per se but a complex process that involves both understanding and feeling others' emotions, she clearly exhibits a capacity for both. A little snarkiness comes thru perhaps but c'mon, it's 2025, grow up.l1lq

In any case she's correct to point to the amygdala as something that's clearly bigger in more people who identify as conservative than it is in lefties. The amygdala governs fear and the thinking is that the more conservative the individual the bigger the amygdala and the greater the fear...an emotion that all too often overwhelms logic along with the ability to think straight about almost anything.

So how long was the recovery after removal?

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52 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Empathy is not an emotion per se but a complex process that involves both understanding and feeling others' emotions, she clearly exhibits a capacity for both. A little snarkiness comes thru perhaps but c'mon, it's 2025, grow up.l1lq

In any case she's correct to point to the amygdala as something that's clearly bigger in more people who identify as conservative than it is in lefties. The amygdala governs fear and the thinking is that the more conservative the individual the bigger the amygdala and the greater the fear...an emotion that all too often overwhelms logic along with the ability to think straight about almost anything.

We are not afraid of liberal policies. We just know they don't work.

Your presumption that fear and  conservatism are correlated is an emotional response to piece of information you want to be true. 

14 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Calling your fact free response bullshit is not an emotional response, it is a rational response to your LIES.

He says with a full throated, angry, emotional response. 

Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it? 

 

 

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1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

I was talking about how liberals make emotional, anger basdd responses to facts and you chimed in to prove me correct. 

Even if what you said about immigration was correct, my response was an intellectual response using logic and reason. Your response was an emotional eruption of anger. You have proven me correct once again. 

No, your response was just more made up nonsense to justify your made up nonsense. There is nothing intellectual or logical about it. People with facts and logic have to correct your nonsense.

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1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

Disgust is definitely universal. I find leftist dogma (victim vs victimizer) reprehensible. 

There is NO "DOGMA" here. Just because you watch only FOS LIES doesn't make ANYTHING "dogma."

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2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

We are not afraid of liberal policies. We just know they don't work.

Liberal policies have worked VERY WELL.. SS, Medicare and Medicaid fill the GAPS left by Republican policies.

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Your presumption that fear and  conservatism are correlated is an emotional response to piece of information you want to be true. 

You are not the ARBITER of truth.

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

He says with a full throated, angry, emotional response. 

Far from it. You post nothing but opinions and try to claim they are facts.

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8 minutes ago, robosmith said:

There is NO "DOGMA" here. Just because you watch only FOS LIES doesn't make ANYTHING "dogma."

Don’t lie, every single argument from the left is look how much more someone else is better off than me. Envy is a sin. Not a moral virtue to signal with.

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3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

We are not afraid of liberal policies. We just know they don't work.

Well you see here's this issue with liberal versus Liberal not to mention ideals vs policy. What are we really dealing with?

The history human progress as a result of liberal thought and liberalism would suggest there's lots that worked due to them.

3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Your presumption that fear and  conservatism are correlated is an emotional response to piece of information you want to be true.

No it's a scientific understanding that's corroborated with brain scans of people who strongly identify as being conservative. It just is what it is.

It's not to say it's a bad thing, it takes two wings for a plane to fly. A society that steers a stable course between equal urges to just steer in one direction seems like the most efficient one.

If you want to get to heaven you have to raise a little hell.

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I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

Don’t lie, every single argument from the left is look how much more someone else is better off than me. Envy is a sin. Not a moral virtue to signal with.

Your fantasies are ONLY THAT. YOU completely ignore how everything in our economy is manipulated by the very WEALTHY esp since Citizen's United which enshrined the "argument" that money is speech and therefore can't be regulated.

Just look at how Muskrat BOUGHT THE ELECTION with $300M FOR Trump. 🤮

And before that the Egyptian PM made an ILLEGAL $10M contribution to Trump's broke campaign in 2016.

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3 hours ago, robosmith said:

There is NO "DOGMA" here. Just because you watch only FOS LIES doesn't make ANYTHING "dogma."

sorry but he was morally right there and you are wrong. 

I guess his karma ran over your dogma :)  

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Had better start running."

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13 hours ago, robosmith said:

This explains the cognitive dissonance to which I often refer and right wingers don't understand because they believe there's only  ONE definition. 

https://www.facebook.com/reel/553518044484965 video

 

 

Let's assume for a moment this silly woman is correct.

What " forward thinking" acts have Libbies taken of late that have produced a positive outcome?

Millions of migrants illegally flooding the nation? No. That causes undue social friction in several forms.

Telling the population that men can be women and visa versa? No. That's just silly. Its also lead to abhorrent practices by doctors and ruined many lives.

Not enforcing the law with no cash bail and light sentencing? No. That's lead to the death of countless citizens.

The deification of George Floyd? No. That lead to riots, deaths, and billions in damages.

Hmmm...maybe some change is good, but not all? Maybe both Liberal and Conservative exist for a reason? Maybe some change is not a good thing and needs to be halted before it harms a nation?

My dear fop...not all change is good. And when you declare war on those who oppose some of your more destructive ideas for change, you will run into a wall.

Here ends the lesson for the day.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

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As usual, the science does not support the left:

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Live Science - It made for a neat story. People physiologically prone to fear and disgust would pay more attention to threats and thus turn to a conservative political ideology that promises safety and the status quo. But there was a lingering problem. Seventy-five percent of the research cited on the topic in one influential 2003 meta-analysis was done in the United States, and only 4% was conducted outside of Western democracies. Another problem? The definition of "threat" in most studies on the topic was usually narrow, focused on threats of violence or terrorism. Political persuasion was often defined narrowly too, without accounting for differences between social ideology and economic ideology. 

If you look only at the United States, the researchers report, it's true that right-wing beliefs and a fear of war or terrorism go hand-in-hand. But expanding to other threats shows an inconsistent mix of associations. In other words, even in the U.S., conservatism and a physical sensitivity to threats aren't clearly linked. 

"It's definitely plausible that people experience some threat or some event and then adopt this attitude," he said. "But what 'this attitude' is and the best one to address that threat might be different depending on the particular context." 

There may also be other psychological reasons to associate with a political group, Malka noted. People have a social need to fit in, and may adopt attitudes that help them do so. Future research should focus more on how pre-existing political affiliation leads people to focus on different threats, he told Live Science. 

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Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it? 

 

 

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9 hours ago, robosmith said:

Your fantasies are ONLY THAT. YOU completely ignore how everything in our economy is manipulated by the very WEALTHY esp since Citizen's United which enshrined the "argument" that money is speech and therefore can't be regulated.

Just look at how Muskrat BOUGHT THE ELECTION with $300M FOR Trump. 🤮

And before that the Egyptian PM made an ILLEGAL $10M contribution to Trump's broke campaign in 2016.

Rich people are rich because they know how to play the game and play it well. What’s important isn’t that they’re rich, what’s important is that the poor people aren’t actually poor. In America and to include the north AMERICANS It’s impossible to die from hunger, we die from addiction. That’s a choice. For the first time in human history. 
 

Second, poor people aren’t poor because of rich people. It’s an amalgamation of character flaws; be it lack of effort and-or low IQ. It’s never because they’re born in a poor family. Being born in a poor family just means that you startout in life with less capital which means it will take longer to get out of poverty. But that's the rub, wanting to get out and doing something about it. 
 

Third and this is the most important, poor people lack accountability, to themselves and to the people around them. No amount of government stimulus will help with this. This is a choice. 
 

The vast majority of homeless people suffer from mental illness and-or addiction. That’s not fixed by giving them cash. 

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9 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

How was I dishonest? It is literally her Instagram profile.

She is a frigging activist by her own admission and was wearing a no human is illegal shirt.

Her bio is much better than what YOU CITED. See my next post. Duh

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