"No Timeline for a trade deal with us" Leblanc .... from July 1 to Never, Carney has screwed this.

[CdnFox]

 

WE"RE SETTING A DEADLINE OF JULY 1  AND THEN WE COUNTER TARIFF IF THERE"S NO DEAL!!

OK, WE"LL PUSH IT BACK TO JULY 30 !!! 

OK - END OF AUGUST AT THE LATEST, THEN COUNTER TARIFFS!!!

 

You know what, why don't we just take our tariffs off and you call us when you're ready. is that ok?

 

Elbows down, trousers down. 

[Barquentine]

If we were negotiating with norma lpeople, you'd be right.

But Trump is not normal, intelligent, fair or consistent.

My suspicion is that talks are going ok in the background but Trump wants some kind of crushing victory.

Better no deal than a bad deal.

We might just have to wait this out, and counter tariffs won't help us.

And you're delusional if you think PeePee could do any better. Couldn't even get re-elected in his own riding!

[CouchPotato]

 

[LinkSoul60]

Pierre Poilievre continues to get DESTROYED in public opinion polls

 

Mark Carney leads Pierre Poilievre in net favourability by 32 points

“Poilievre’s personal favourability remains poor, as the CPC leader continues to struggle to resonate with Canadians.”

“Unfortunately for Pierre Poilievre, he continues to struggle to resonate with a larger group of Canadians. The CPC leader’s personal favourability continues to hover in the mid-30s. He has failed to reach 40% since taking over the CPC leadership in 2022.”

[Politics1990]

oh please pierre would of already signed us a bad deal and sold us out lol. i aint the biggest fan of carney but until the cons put out a centrist leader like otoole  or the ndp get a decent leader i am fine supporting mark

[Shady]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

If we were negotiating with norma lpeople, you'd be right.

But Trump is not normal, intelligent, fair or consistent.

My suspicion is that talks are going ok in the background but Trump wants some kind of crushing victory.

Better no deal than a bad deal.

We might just have to wait this out, and counter tariffs won't help us.

And you're delusional if you think PeePee could do any better. Couldn't even get re-elected in his own riding!

It’s weird that other countries are able to negotiate deals.

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Pierre Poilievre continues to get DESTROYED in public opinion polls

 

Mark Carney leads Pierre Poilievre in net favourability by 32 points

“Poilievre’s personal favourability remains poor, as the CPC leader continues to struggle to resonate with Canadians.”

“Unfortunately for Pierre Poilievre, he continues to struggle to resonate with a larger group of Canadians. The CPC leader’s personal favourability continues to hover in the mid-30s. He has failed to reach 40% since taking over the CPC leadership in 2022.”

Conservatives are now leading in sons polls.  And all polls have showed a downward trend in Liberal support.  Just wait a few more months, it’s going to get a lot worse.  Spring election!

[Shady]

4 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

oh please pierre would of already signed us a bad deal and sold us out lol. i aint the biggest fan of carney but until the cons put out a centrist leader like otoole  or the ndp get a decent leader i am fine supporting mark

Oh for sure, or Pierre would’ve dropped all retaliatory tariffs?  Oh wait, Carney did that! 😂

[TreeBeard]

37 minutes ago, Shady said:

Oh for sure, or Pierre would’ve dropped all retaliatory tariffs?  Oh wait, Carney did that! 😂

You prefer the retaliatory tariffs still be on?

42 minutes ago, Shady said:

Conservatives are now leading in sons polls.

When did you start loving polling?

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Barquentine said:

If we were negotiating with norma lpeople, you'd be right.

But Trump is not normal, intelligent, fair or consistent.

Carney said he knew how to handle trump. He said he had done business with trump and can make this work. So that excuse does not fly

Also other countries have a reached agreements and are not suffering under this. We are getting our asses handed to us and other countries are not.

5 hours ago, Barquentine said:

My suspicion is that talks are going ok in the background but Trump wants some kind of crushing victory.

Better no deal than a bad deal.

No serious negotiations are going on according to either side and that's death

And no deal IS a bad deal. We're getting clobbered. We're basically in a recession and carney dodged that by the tiniest of margins and we all know it's a lie. Our economic situation is growing worse by the day and our deficit is going to be record high with no relief in site. And there's no reason to believe anything is going to change when we renegotiate NAFTA, we're going to get pummeled then too

5 hours ago, Barquentine said:

We might just have to wait this out, and counter tariffs won't help us.

 

Then why did he run on them?

When the election was happening you were 100% in support of his ideas which were elbows up, counter tariffs, stand up for canada. 6 months later you are trying to claim it was the stupidest idea ever and nobody would think that.

Do you not see your own hypocrisy? Honestly do you not see what I'm saying and how it looks?

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And you're delusional if you think PeePee could do any better. Couldn't even get re-elected in his own riding!

There is absolutely no doubt Poilievre would have done considerably better. And not just with trump, but with all of the other ideas that carney stole but doesn't know how to make happen. Poilievre actually knows how to lead the probability you have to really understand your systems and you have to have the right contacts within the provincial organizations and he does and carney did not. Poilievre has a better plan for housing. And most importantly he would have canceled the tanker band and the no pipeline law

Even today and bridges out there saying nobody's going to build a pipeline until the government gets his ass together and does that. As they said nobody is going to build a pipeline to nowhere. With his half-assed approach Carney has signaled to the industry that the Canadian government is not serious about them actually building anything and they've figured it out

 

Poilievre is a veteran with 20 years of experience or more in the house of commons and running the government both as the government and as the opposition. Carney had zero experience and it shows. You made the wrong choice and it's just that simple and you need to stop making excuses and start taking it seriously

[LinkSoul60]

9 hours ago, Shady said:

It’s weird that other countries are able to negotiate deals.

Conservatives are now leading in sons polls.  And all polls have showed a downward trend in Liberal support.  Just wait a few more months, it’s going to get a lot worse.  Spring election!

Not weird at all.  We have the best 'deal' of any country but Carney doesn't think it's good enough. Rather be going toe to toe with the overweight narcissist than selling the country down a river for the sake of likability points. 

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Not weird at all.  We have the best 'deal' of any country but Carney doesn't think it's good enough. Rather be going toe to toe with the overweight narcissist than selling the country down a river for the sake of likability points. 

we have the worst deal of any country. 

No other country has 75 percent of it's exports going to the states. So when you look at the volume of our trade that's tariffed RATHER THAN the number of specific items, we're paying a huge amount.  More than most. 

Which is why we're on the edge of a recession while others are not. 

But liberal supporters love to lie about it to pretend things are great and we're practically being greedy asking for more 🙄

[Gaétan]

He thinks buying weapons from the U.S. will make them more cooperative.

[Barquentine]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Also other countries have a reached agreements and are not suffering under this

They have MOU's and are paying huge tariffs.

[Barquentine]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Poilievre is a veteran with 20 years of experience or more in the house of commons

Yeah, that's all he's ever done, yapping like a little attack dog.

 

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

running the government

He never ran anything except his own campaign and look what happened . He lost, BIG Time!

[Barquentine]

20 hours ago, Shady said:

It’s weird that other countries are able to negotiate deals.

They have MOU's and are paying high tariffs.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

They have MOU's and are paying huge tariffs.

Smaller than we are for the most part. 

 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Yeah, that's all he's ever done, yapping like a little attack dog.

No he's been a politician. He's worked on deals, worked on negotiations for trade agreements, he's worked very closely with many of the provinces and understands the system backwards and forwards

Hs successful as a politician because he knows how to get things done. He understands how all of this works tremendously well. He understands what the home builders and energy companies and first nations want out of a gov't to make things happen. 

Carney didn't understand ANY of that and it's really showing. He screwed up with the first nations, Embridge has several times now come out and directly said 'we're not dealing with this guy , he doesn't get it'.  He won't lift the tanker ban and Smith wants embridge to build a pipeline to the coast and embridge mentioned the tanker ban and the gov'ts refusal to lift it and said "Nobody is going to build a pipeline to nowhere". 

Your comment is as stupid as saying "i don't want THAT heart surgeon to work on me, all he's ever done for 20 years  is surgery!!!"  

No man... that's exactly what you want  LOLOL

[PIK]

On 10/3/2025 at 1:13 PM, Shady said:

Oh for sure, or Pierre would’ve dropped all retaliatory tariffs?  Oh wait, Carney did that! 😂

PP would be leading canada,not the Davos elite. Carney is all about power and his portfolio. He doesn't give a dam about the regular Canadian. 

[CdnFox]

There's some rumors floating around that he is hoping to get some carve outs for some of our Industries this trip. Maybe some relief for the steel industry or aluminum which is also hurting the united states. That would be great, regardless of political differences any relief right now no matter how small would be of benefit.

Of course it depends on what he has to give up to get that and the sad thing is because he's being so secretive about his negotiations we may never know what he promises or trades for any concessions he gets. We do know on two occasions he has lied about it in the past so if he says that he didn't give up anything to get it we know that that is probably not true.

But we will have to take the short-term benefit and hope he didn't screw us too bad in the long term if he comes back with something to stop the bleeding a bit

[eyeball]

On 10/3/2025 at 10:50 AM, TreeBeard said:

You prefer the retaliatory tariffs still be on?

Retaliatory tariffs would have pushed us into a recession and these partisan asshats would be even more happily excoriating Carney for that.

For all the sniveling we hear about lies and broken promises you can bet any deal Carney might have  made by now with Trump would have immediately been called a disaster, especially if it somehow happened to be a good one.

Meanwhile Canadians know full well dealing with Trump is far likelier to be a mugs game and appear to be perfectly willing to cut Carney a fair bit of slack because of it.

No deal is better than a bad deal and everyone knows it - no matter how much Conservatives might wish for one

 

[Shady]

12 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Retaliatory tariffs would have pushed us into a recession and these partisan asshats would be even more happily excoriating Carney for that.

For all the sniveling we hear about lies and broken promises you can bet any deal Carney might have  made by now with Trump would have immediately been called a disaster, especially if it somehow happened to be a good one.

Meanwhile Canadians know full well dealing with Trump is far likelier to be a mugs game and appear to be perfectly willing to cut Carney a fair bit of slack because of it.

No deal is better than a bad deal and everyone knows it - no matter how much Conservatives might wish for one

 

No deal vs bad deal is a false choice perpetuated by Carney sycophants covering for his failures.  He shouldn’t have set a July 1st deadline.  He shouldn’t have promised retaliatory tariffs if he wasn’t going to follow through with them.  He shouldn’t have backed off those tariffs, as well as the digital services tax without getting anything in return.  All he does is talk, but accomplishes very little.  And his fans like eyeball cheer on like clapping seals.

 

[herbie]

These dogs would bite the hand of the man who feeds them and lick the hand of the one that beats them, simply because he's their master.

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, Shady said:

He shouldn’t have set a July 1st deadline.

Your parents shouldn't have shattered your illusions when they came clean about Santa Clause. It left you scarred for life.

 

2 minutes ago, Shady said:

He shouldn’t have promised retaliatory tariffs if he wasn’t going to follow through with them.  He shouldn’t have backed off those tariffs, 

You really would be happier if we were in a recession wouldn't you?

8 minutes ago, Shady said:

...as well as the digital services tax without getting anything in return.

I agree about the DST, I definitely think he should have kept them in place, especially in light of the huge trade surplus the US enjoys.

I find it a little galling that more isn't made of this trade imbalance myself. Why is it all about goods but not services too?

Remember when Canadians were told to stop being hewers of wood and drawers of water and to embrace the service economy? How about tariffs on US services to bolster our service sectors?

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Retaliatory tariffs would have pushed us into a recession and these partisan asshats would be even more happily excoriating Carney for that.

 

We're already in a recession. Even if he dodges it by like a tenth of a point or whatever they're predicting canada is essentially in a recession and everybody knows it.

And again we come back to the same thing over and over. You try and present the idea that it's absolutely stupid to do elbows up and counter tariffs and such But that's precisely what Connie ran on and you all supported it at the time.

Now you seem to be suggesting that bending the knee and opening the mouth is the correct way of addressing the situation and you're so proud and excited to have a leader who will do that

You guys have absolutely no convictions or morals that you stick to for more than 5 minutes. All you've got is a tribe