I am Groot Posted January 30 Author Report Posted January 30 (edited) 17 hours ago, eyeball said: Recent Conflict-Specific Admissions Ukraine: Over 300,000 Ukrainians arrived in Canada since the 2022 invasion. Ukrainians aren't designated as refugees. They have not applied for asylum. They are here under a temporary shelter program. They are not given hearings, and they do not have permanent residency status. 17 hours ago, eyeball said: Afghanistan: more than 54,700 Afghans have arrived since 2021. The war in Afghanistan is long over. 17 hours ago, eyeball said: Syria: Since 2015, more than 100,000 Syrian refugees have been resettled through various programs. The war in Syria is over. The highest category for those applying for asylum is not fleeing war, but claiming LGBT discrimination/persecution. The second highest is gender discrimination. The top countries applying last year are India, Haiti, Iran, and Nigeria. Edited January 30 by I am Groot Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
CdnFox Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Awww, did I make a promise that I couldn't keep .... No, you made a statement that's wrong and I corrected you And the one filling is diapers right now would be you LOL sorry it upset you so bad that all you could do to cope is scour the internet for baby pictures in an effort to project your shame onto others I was right, you were wrong,,,,, Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 39 minutes ago, CdnFox said: No, you made a statement that's wrong and I corrected you Only in the ridiculous legal sense you usually get all pissy over to score some point but the common perception draft dodgers were refugees stems from PE Trudeau’s statement that Canada "should be a refuge from militarism,". The fact dodgers had an easy legal immigration path was great but the intent of it was to offer refuge not, hey come on up to Canada, we need your talent and skills. Which leaves yet another question hanging you can't seem to address, would you have sent draft dodgers packing? After all, it's pretty good chance most of them were lefties and hippies. You wouldn't want any of that on you would you? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CITIZEN_2015 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 (edited) Stop the invasion from those regions who have a backward violent culture. Who have no respect for human rights or women's rights or religious freedom. Give refuge to people seeking freedom from those oppressive regimes but do not accept those who are practicing backward oppressive culture. Canada is my homeland and has been for decades. I do not wish to see a repeat. STOP THE INVASION. Edited January 31 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 22 hours ago, I am Groot said: The war in Syria is over. So send them back. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 20 hours ago, eyeball said: Which leaves yet another question hanging you can't seem to address, would you have sent draft dodgers packing? 20 hours ago, eyeball said: Only in the ridiculous legal sense you usually get all pissy over You mean the truth and the facts. Your claim is that we admitted american refugees during that time by the hundreds of thousands therefore we shouldn't be reacting to admitting american refugees now. But.... we didn't admit american refugees as you claimed. So you completely lied to try and make a point and now you're mad at me for pointing out that what you said was false Own your own stupidity kid Now you'll try to deflect to something else because you're so embarrassed at having been shown to be wrong yet again Quote Which leaves yet another question hanging you can't seem to address, would you have sent draft dodgers packing? ROFLMAO!!! And right on cue WHEEE LOOK AT HIM GO!!! Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You mean the truth and the facts. I mean pedantic quibbling. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CITIZEN_2015 Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 I think a majority of Canadians want an end or reduction in immigrants from third world countries and especially muslim dominted countries not against immigration as a whole. Remember whatever you import, you become one, God forbid. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 5 hours ago, eyeball said: I mean pedantic quibbling. Then you're talking about yourself. What you said wasn't a little bit untrue. It was a blatant falsehood. He said we shouldn't be accepting as many Refugees. And you said we accepted tons of American refugees when we never actually accepted american refugees. That is absolutely not pedantic, you absolutely said something completely and substantially untrue and now you're mad that you've been caught at it and rather than just simply accept the correction and admit that you were wrong you've gone on like a baby filling his diapers whining about it and now insist that it's my fault that you lied. So if you want to talk about pedantic quibbling look in the mirror Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
I am Groot Posted February 1 Author Report Posted February 1 Mark Wiseman, Mark Carney's friend, co-founder of the Century Initiative, and Carney's economic advisor, now appointed as ambassador to the US. Remember when the Liberals told us that their immigration plan had nothing to do with the Century Initiative? “Let the private sector move to bring people in and facilitate them being able to do that. A lot of the screening and other stuff that we do frankly is just bureaucracy, is a waste of time, let’s let people in by and large,” said Wiseman. In an interview with Bloomberg Markets, Wiseman spoke about the need for the Liberal government to bring in closer to 500,000 people per year. Former Liberal immigration minister Sean Fraser eventually raised the government’s 2025 target to 500,000 permanent residents in his 2022 immigration plan. https://www.junonews.com/p/carney-advisor-dismissed-immigration Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
I am Groot Posted February 1 Author Report Posted February 1 Asylum was designed to protect individuals fleeing persecution. It was not designed to import ideologies that reject the moral and political foundations of the societies offering refuge. But that is what has happened. Asylum systems evaluate fear of harm, not belief systems. They ask whether someone is in danger, not whether the worldview they carry is compatible with the society they are entering. Many asylum seekers are genuine victims of war and repression. That is not the issue. The issue is that asylum now functions as an ideological pipeline, not just a humanitarian one. Large numbers of applicants come from societies shaped by authoritarian politics, religious supremacy, tribal loyalty over civic law, honor-based justice, hostility to pluralism, and contempt for freedom of conscience. These are systemic frameworks. People are formed by them over decades. They do not disappear at the border. When these frameworks enter Western countries in significant numbers, they appear in voting blocs, censorship demands, intimidation campaigns parallel legal norms. The West assumes that exposure to freedom will automatically produce liberal citizens. That is not a law of nature. Freedom does not transform ideology by itself. It only protects the space where ideology can compete. If the imported ideology rejects freedom itself, it uses that space to organize against it. Asylum has become a mechanism for transferring populations whose political and theological assumptions are antithetical to the West. You can flee a dictatorship and still believe in the principles that created it. You can be oppressed by a system and still want to reproduce its logic in a new environment. A society that can't say “your beliefs are incompatible with this system” will eventually be forced to change its system instead. A political order based on individual rights can't survive mass importation of worldviews that deny individual rights. It does not matter how sincere the suffering was. It matters what replaces the suffering once safety is secured. What is being exported is not just people. It is moral architecture. Dan Burmawi 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
I am Groot Posted February 1 Author Report Posted February 1 Another one of those informational things you will never find in Canada because Canada doesn't allow you to know information like this. It's similar to one I posted earlier for the UK. 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
eyeball Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: And you said we accepted tons of American refugees That's right, draft dodgers. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 2 hours ago, eyeball said: That's right, draft dodgers. No, you said refugees And we didn't. And your whole point was that we should not complain about the refugees today because we accepted refugees then. But they weren't refugees. They're just people that wanted to live in another country same as any immigrant. That's not what a refugee is Your argument seems to be that if somebody comes to our country using our normal immigration system that there are refugee. That is a lie. As you well know. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Gaétan Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 Matthew 22:37–40 Jesus replied: “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.” A law is truly legitimate only if it respects justice, fairness, and fundamental human rights—and this is not what the government does regarding immigration. Salvation comes from self‑sacrifice, not from the sacrifice of others. To believe is to act: if you believe that immigration laws are correct, you do not have eternal life according to Jesus. Strive to enter through the narrow gate, said Jesus. The angels do not admit into paradise an individual who believes in evil, even if he does not commit evil concretely, often out of fear of being punished. Quote
eyeball Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 12 hours ago, CdnFox said: No, you said refugees That's right...I said draft dodgers. 12 hours ago, CdnFox said: Your argument seems to be that if somebody comes to our country using our normal immigration system that there are refugee. That is a lie. As you well know. Actually it was promise. You argument seems to be... Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Venandi Posted February 2 Report Posted February 2 (edited) On 1/12/2026 at 10:51 PM, I am Groot said: A society that can’t criticize foreign belief systems can’t defend its values. A society that prioritizes not offending over being correct can’t survive. Weak cultures do not remain free. They get reshaped... Easily the most telling (and obvious) part of the entire thread IMO. Assuming the poll (subject of the thread) is correct, it means that opinions have clearly changed and they've changed due to observable circumstances. It also means that the people who routinely predicted these circumstances, and who were ultimately proven correct, were not (are not and never were) racist. Not only were they right, they were right despite being soundly ridiculed and labeled racist xenophobes by the very people now represented in the poll itself; those who have since (by their own assessment of virtue) become the very xenophobes they once ridiculed. I'd call those profits of old courageous, they might even qualify as students of reality and seers of unintended consequence. So.... before someone sarcastically posts "HA HA HA.... so what's your point LOSER LMAO." The point is read the quote above whilst looking in the bathroom mirror because I have a question for ya: "WTF did you think was going to happen?" Edited February 2 by Venandi Quote
I am Groot Posted February 3 Author Report Posted February 3 Canadians turning increasingly hostile to immigration. The most recent numbers find that 48% of Canadians say that immigration to Canada is having a mostly negative effect on our nation, compared to 34% who say that it’s having a mostly positive effect. Those numbers are part of a larger trend line that shows Canadians rapidly growing pessimistic about the institution of immigration. The change since last July alone finds negative sentiments jumping nine points, while positive ones dropped nine points, creating an eighteen point swing towards the negative camp. https://canadianpolling.substack.com/p/canadians-grow-increasingly-hostile Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
CdnFox Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 3 hours ago, I am Groot said: Canadians turning increasingly hostile to immigration. The most recent numbers find that 48% of Canadians say that immigration to Canada is having a mostly negative effect on our nation, compared to 34% who say that it’s having a mostly positive effect. Those numbers are part of a larger trend line that shows Canadians rapidly growing pessimistic about the institution of immigration. The change since last July alone finds negative sentiments jumping nine points, while positive ones dropped nine points, creating an eighteen point swing towards the negative camp. https://canadianpolling.substack.com/p/canadians-grow-increasingly-hostile More of trudeau's legacy, combined with the nonsense we saw from the gaza protests. Canadians are waking up to the idea that not all immigrants are the same Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Venandi Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 (edited) On 2/2/2026 at 7:34 AM, Venandi said: Assuming the poll (subject of the thread) is correct, it means that opinions have clearly changed and they've changed due to observable circumstances. It also means that the people who routinely predicted these circumstances, and who were ultimately proven correct, were not (are not and never were) racist. https://www.rebelnews.com/open_your_eyes_swedish_leader_warns_west_is_asleep_to_islam 22% in Swedish polls and rising... and it's based on lived experience and objective reality. It's experience that sways opinion / behaviour and experience is always based on lessons provided by inexperience. That lived experience was always out there, but in limited quantities. It's been whispering words of caution into deaf progressive ears for years now and people are starting to listen. But, I'd urge the same caution in equal and opposite measure to the cautions that progressives previously ignored... along with a heightened level of attention comes the risk of over reaction based on fear. Progressives don't like the new ICE... but the new ICE is a product of their own creation. The fact that 1 in 5 Swedes is now concerned enough to change their vote is telling, it will also prove to be contagious as that concern changes to fear. And that's what's going to happen. The decisions ultimately made by scared people are usually as ill advised as those of the people who scared them in the first place. See-saw amplitude will increase, positions will become polarized, and the political centre will suffocate. Suddenly, no one is left to call out the bad behaviour of both sides with anything remotely close to integrity. Invariably, scared people make poor decisions under pressure, and poor decisions always come with unintended consequences.... most of them bad. The final rhetorical question from those who consistently urged caution from the get go is always: WTF did you think was going to happen?" Edited February 5 by Venandi Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 On 1/31/2026 at 10:58 PM, eyeball said: That's right, draft dodgers. Oh WOW.... I forgot about this. We have hundreds of thousands of Americans living here now, it seems. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Venandi Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 (edited) On 1/30/2026 at 6:52 PM, eyeball said: Only in the ridiculous legal sense you usually get all pissy over to score some point but the common perception draft dodgers were refugees stems from PE Trudeau’s statement that Canada "should be a refuge from militarism," And in another thread, people are considering the relative merits of obtaining nuclear weapons. A pretty big leap IMO but so is considering fleeing felons (from the US) to be refugees simply because you agree with their politics. Edited February 5 by Venandi Quote
eyeball Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 2 hours ago, Venandi said: A pretty big leap IMO but so is considering fleeing felons (from the US) to be refugees simply because you agree with their politics. Seems like a lot less of a leap than accepting felons as regular immigrants. I mean, America would just open it's prisons and mental institutions if dealing with them was that easy. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Nationalist Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 Lol...Just browing this thread, watching Libbies try desperately to justify mass immigration of Muslims. Because...let's be honest...that's what this is about. The globalist Canadian government is actively importing them. These people are not here to "be Canadian"...they are here, by their own admission, to reform Canada to an Islamic state. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Venandi Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 28 minutes ago, eyeball said: America would just open it's prisons and mental institutions if dealing with them was that easy. And if Canadians decide to welcome them as refugees they just might. I'd start by clearing out the mental institutions to see how it worked... the main problem with that is it would bolster the ranks of liberal voters in Canada. 1 Quote
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