Moonlight Graham Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 52 minutes ago, eyeball said: Yup...good thing enough voters stuck to our guns hereabouts and didn't vote Conservative or we could be stuck with a Liberal majority. Hopefully PP stays on giving Canadians some expectation they can go back to voting along more normal lines and in hope of more minority governments in the future. Minority governments in recent years have meant kowtowing to kook parties like the Bloc and NDP. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
CdnFox Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 6 hours ago, eyeball said: How come it didn't say that on my ballot? Because you were voting liberal anyway Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said: Minority governments in recent years have meant kowtowing to kook parties like the Bloc and NDP. Said the kook. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
I am Groot Posted January 13 Author Report Posted January 13 (edited) Another guy I follow on X is very insightful. Used to be a Muslim. Came west from Egypt, I believe. Dan Burmawi When a society submits to the sensitivities of sick people and elevates them to the norm, everyone else is forced to walk through landmines to avoid offending the stupid. This culture has made the West incapable of saying simple, obvious things: that not all cultures are equal, that not all religions are compatible with liberal democracy, that not all value systems can coexist, that some ideas are superior. When a civilization abandons truth, inferior ideologies rush in, ideologies that have no problem judging, enforcing, dominating, and demanding submission. While the West is busy debating tone and intent, others are asserting authority and power without hesitation. This is how civilizational suicide happens. A society that can’t speak honestly about the superiority of its culture can't integrate newcomers. A society that can’t criticize foreign belief systems can’t defend its values. A society that prioritizes not offending over being correct can’t survive. Weak cultures do not remain free. They get reshaped by those who are willing to say what they refuse to say, believe what they refuse to believe, and enforce what they refuse to defend. Edited January 13 by I am Groot 1 2 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
Moonlight Graham Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 4 hours ago, eyeball said: Said the kook. How am I a kook? Lol Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
CdnFox Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: How am I a kook? Lol I thought he misspelled that and you were going to make us something to eat. I'm a little disappointed now Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
cougar Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 On 1/12/2026 at 10:23 AM, CdnFox said: well your imagination is pretty limited i'm sure, what with your mental health problems and all There are no other options. You can let us all know who has been paying while you made those impressive 38,000 useless posts, which by itself is an indication of your own mental health problems. 😉 Quote
eyeball Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 16 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: How am I a kook? Lol Your paranoia about media bias kinda stands out. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Moonlight Graham Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 7 hours ago, eyeball said: Your paranoia about media bias kinda stands out. Name an example. I think you're starting to go senile. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
eyeball Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 53 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Name an example. I think you're starting to go senile. My apologies if I was wrong. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 Canada First protesters tangle with counter protesters in Toronto. A good time was had by all !! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
CdnFox Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 On 1/13/2026 at 11:43 AM, cougar said: There are no other options. You can let us all know who has been paying while you made those impressive 38,000 useless posts, which by itself is an indication of your own mental health problems. 😉 It really isn't Quite a few of them are just replying to x-flyer when he has his little hipsy fits and that takes all of a quarter second I realize you type with two figures so it seems impossible to you but this takes up next to no time. The vast majority of people today spend more time texting each other in the course of the day then I spend posting here and actually proved that with research and statistics when someone else brought this up Postcount is what losers fall back on when they have no argument because they're too stupid to Think of one or too emotionally crippled to admit that they're wrong. Of course two things can be true as in your case By the way, I make more money than the large majority of Canadians do Sorry if that frustrates you Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
I am Groot Posted January 29 Author Report Posted January 29 Canada's 87% acceptance rate for asylum claims shows just how wide the criteria is for acceptance. We granted refugee status to two dozen AMERICAN citizens last year! What about the 13% who are, after many years of hearings and appeals, denied? Well, they stay here anyway. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
eyeball Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: We granted refugee status to two dozen AMERICAN citizens last year Is that all? We took in some 30000 or more American draft dodgers during the war in Vietnam, whose numbers swelled to over 100000 when you add family members who joined them. Edited January 29 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 13 hours ago, eyeball said: Is that all? We took in some 30000 or more American draft dodgers during the war in Vietnam, whose numbers swelled to over 100000 when you add family members who joined them. Uhh no. No that would be a lie kiddo. Those people moved here as landed immigrants using the normal immigration process. They did not claim refugee status, we did not "take them in", they just moved here as was allowed under the immigration policies of the day. They were no different than NON draft dodgers that moved here. Yeash. Can't you EVER make a point without lying? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 14 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Those people moved here as landed immigrants using the normal immigration process. Sure, they sought refuge in Canada following the easiest path available. You're suggesting without that we should have sent them packing? Like they were from the MS St. Louis or something? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 3 hours ago, eyeball said: Sure, they sought refuge in Canada following the easiest path available. No, they just moved here. By immigrating. Millions of people choose to immigrate. So it's got nothing to do with 'refugees'. But i love that you're never so stupid that you can't dig deeper and be a little MOAR stupid when it's pointed out Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: No, they just moved here. By immigrating. Millions of people choose to immigrate. Sure, for all sorts of reasons. Like millions of other hapless immigrants Americans sought refuge in Canada from a war. You never answered my question, would you send such people packing? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Sure, for all sorts of reasons. Like millions of other hapless immigrants Americans sought refuge in Canada from a war. No, people seeking refuge in Canada from a war apply for refugee status This really isn't that complex, I feel embarrassed for you that I have to explain it Edited January 30 by CdnFox Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: No, people seeking refuge in Canada from a war apply for refugee status They didn't need refugee status to make it patently obvious they were fleeing. 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: This really isn't that complex, I feel embarrassed for you that I have to explain it No it's not complex at all but you do need to be contrarian. In any case my question stands would you turn people fleeing a war away? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
I am Groot Posted January 30 Author Report Posted January 30 7 hours ago, eyeball said: Sure, they sought refuge in Canada following the easiest path available. You're suggesting without that we should have sent them packing? Like they were from the MS St. Louis or something? The migrants arriving here and claiming asylum are not fleeing war and persecution. They're economic migrants taking advantage of a massive, wide-open asylum system that accepts virtually all claims. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
eyeball Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 11 minutes ago, I am Groot said: The migrants arriving here and claiming asylum are not fleeing war and persecution. Recent Conflict-Specific Admissions Ukraine: Over 300,000 Ukrainians arrived in Canada since the 2022 invasion. Afghanistan: more than 54,700 Afghans have arrived since 2021. Syria: Since 2015, more than 100,000 Syrian refugees have been resettled through various programs. Sudan: Since April 2023, approximately 1,360 Sudanese refugees have been resettled, with commitments to welcome 4,000 more by the end of 2026. Gaza: Over 860 people have arrived from Gaza since the current conflict began, with more than 1,750 approved for travel as of July 2025. 12 minutes ago, I am Groot said: They're economic migrants taking advantage of a massive, wide-open asylum system that accepts virtually all claims. There's probably a little of that too no doubt. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Gaétan Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 (edited) The king gave you this territory, but he did not have the authority since he held it from the devil. The government has the authority to administer the community living on the territory with justice and fairness. Luke 4:5-7 And the devil took him up and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time, and said to him, “To you I will give all this authority and their glory, for it has been delivered to me, and I give it to whom I will. If you, then, will worship me, it will all be yours. Article 13 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each State. Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country. Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948) Matthieu 22:37–40 « Tu aimeras le Seigneur, ton Dieu, de tout ton cœur, de toute ton âme et de toute ta pensée. C’est là le grand et premier commandement. Et voici le second, qui lui est semblable : Tu aimeras ton prochain comme toi-même. De ces deux commandements dépendent toute la Loi et les Prophètes. Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution. Principle of Non-Refoulement (1951 Refugee Convention) No Contracting State shall expel or return (“refouler”) a refugee in any manner whatsoever to the frontiers of territories where his life or freedom would be threatened. Fundamental Human Rights (general application) Right to life and dignity. Right to non-discrimination. Right to access basic services such as health, education, and protection against exploitation, regardless of migration status. Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration (UN, 2018) Non-binding, but affirms that migration is a global reality and calls for cooperation to make it more humane and equitable. Matthew 22:37–40 Jesus replied: “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” A law is only truly legitimate if it respects justice, fairness, and fundamental human rights. Edited January 30 by Gaétan Quote
CdnFox Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 17 hours ago, eyeball said: They didn't need refugee status to make it patently obvious they were fleeing. They didn't make it patently obvious they were fleeing. They just moved to a new country. So your whole claim that we received them as refugees is a lie. I'm sure I'm as shocked as anyone to discover that you're attempting to lie your way out of it again 17 hours ago, eyeball said: No it's not complex at all but you do need to be contrarian. LOL I love that you now consider anyone who speaks the truth to be contrarian He said we brought in a number of refugees from America. You said what are you talking about we brought in tons and tons before. But no we didn't that was a lie. I pointed out that what you said was wrong and now you're having a hissy fit again and it's all my fault you were wrong because I'm contrarian LOLOLOL Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 17 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So your whole claim that we received them as refugees is a lie. Awww, did I make a promise that I couldn't keep and now you're like 21 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You said what are you talking about we brought in tons and tons before. But no we didn't that was a lie. Awww... 22 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I pointed out that what you said was wrong and now you're having a hissy fit again and it's all my fault Awwww... Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
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