ExFlyer Posted September 26, 2025 Report Posted September 26, 2025 4 hours ago, Shady said: So what. They cannot sell their product in Canada so, they go where the market is. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted September 27, 2025 Report Posted September 27, 2025 6 hours ago, Shady said: Yikes. Currently Canada spends $50+ billion dollars a year on just interest on debt thanks to Trudeau. Carney is set to make that much worse. And that assumes that inflation never takes off again and we don't see rising interest rates. And someday that's going to happen. It's not hard for interest rates to double when they're at around 3%, and all of a sudden 50 billion becomes 100 billion 5 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Uhhh, I have no idea what that means or what you are trying to imply? LOL I'm sorry, did you need me to draw it in crayon for you? Dozens of newspapers several polling firms and thousands and thousands of Canadians have said you're wrong and I'm right. I can understand why you would willfully decide that you didn't understand that, but it doesn't change the truth 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted September 27, 2025 Report Posted September 27, 2025 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: So what. They cannot sell their product in Canada so, they go where the market is. I'm not sure you're aware of where jobs come from. If business is flea Canada going to the united states then they take their jobs with them I'm a little disappointed that I have to explain that to you. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted September 27, 2025 Report Posted September 27, 2025 10 hours ago, CdnFox said: I'm not sure you're aware of where jobs come from. If business is flea Canada going to the united states then they take their jobs with them I'm a little disappointed that I have to explain that to you. I think it is you that has no idea where jobs come form Jobs come from companies that manufacture something that they sell. If there is no market, they stop manufacturing and there are no more jobs. Invista in Canada has no market in Canada, hence, manufacturing stops and the jobs go away. I'm a little disappointed that I have to explain that to you. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Shady Posted September 27, 2025 Author Report Posted September 27, 2025 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: I think it is you that has no idea where jobs come form Jobs come from companies that manufacture something that they sell. If there is no market, they stop manufacturing and there are no more jobs. Invista in Canada has no market in Canada, hence, manufacturing stops and the jobs go away. I'm a little disappointed that I have to explain that to you. There must be a market, they’re not shutting down, they’re moving to another jurisdiction, that probably is more favourable for them. No industrial carbon tax, etc. 1 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted September 27, 2025 Report Posted September 27, 2025 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Shady said: There must be a market, they’re not shutting down, they’re moving to another jurisdiction, that probably is more favourable for them. No industrial carbon tax, etc. For sure there is a market...but as I said, not in Canada....hence shutting down the Canada plant and moving it to Texas. This avoids American tariffs when they have to import it. A purely business decision. Edited September 27, 2025 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted September 27, 2025 Report Posted September 27, 2025 (edited) 11 hours ago, ExFlyer said: I think it is you that has no idea where jobs come form You're the one that needed it explained to you You were like "so what if they're moving". Quote Jobs come from companies that manufacture something that they sell. Well, not quite right but good enough for now, well done, keep going..... Quote If there is no market, they stop manufacturing and there are no more jobs. good, good.... you're making real progress...... Quote Invista in Canada has no market in Canada, hence, manufacturing stops and the jobs go away. Ahhh so you were paying attention to me when i explained this You very clearly didn't understand this at first. now, back to your question. When you first heard this you said "so what'? So hundreds of jobs are going away. Hundreds of people directly will be out of work, then the local community will shed more jobs as those people stop buying local goods. That is a bad thing. So the answer to 'so what' that you asked is "so our communities will be badly hurt" And all because carney can't get the trade war under control like he promised or do things like tax incentives to keep those companies here. Did that clear it up for you? Still with us? There were lots of words there, i know that can tucker you out. Edited September 27, 2025 by CdnFox 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted September 27, 2025 Report Posted September 27, 2025 On 9/26/2025 at 2:52 PM, ExFlyer said: So what. They cannot sell their product in Canada so, they go where the market is. Sigh. It took you like 5 minutes to forget everything again. You have the attention span of a gold fish. They do sell their product in canada, it's just too expensive to make here and ship to the states as well. And we have no counter tariff coming back thanks to carney So hundreds of Canadaians will be out of work because carney couldn't get his crap together. I know you're not old enough to work yet bu adults frequently really depend on their job to provide a house and food. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Political Smash Posted September 28, 2025 Report Posted September 28, 2025 Carney is failing Canada, too bad he doesn't work for the citizens of Canada, instead he conspires with WEF against us. Quote
CdnFox Posted September 28, 2025 Report Posted September 28, 2025 32 minutes ago, Legato said: Yeah that's his current stick. "I'm not attending all of these parties and eating $1,000 a plate food because I WANT to, I'm doing it for YOU!!! I'd rather be at home eating kraft dinner but now I'm stuck on this international holiday partying it up with world leaders and showing off that I'm Prime minister of Canada and eating this god damn filet mignon!! You better be thankful!!!!" Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Political Smash Posted September 29, 2025 Report Posted September 29, 2025 6 hours ago, CdnFox said: Yeah that's his current stick. "I'm not attending all of these parties and eating $1,000 a plate food because I WANT to, I'm doing it for YOU!!! I'd rather be at home eating kraft dinner but now I'm stuck on this international holiday partying it up with world leaders and showing off that I'm Prime minister of Canada and eating this god damn filet mignon!! You better be thankful!!!!" Realistically it's not funny but well done with the sarcasm. Quote
Shady Posted September 29, 2025 Author Report Posted September 29, 2025 But we need temporary workers for some reason. Quote
Shady Posted September 30, 2025 Author Report Posted September 30, 2025 This government is completely pathetic. 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted September 30, 2025 Report Posted September 30, 2025 Just now, Shady said: This government is completely pathetic. Your constant complaining is far more pathetic.... If we had the available capacity, yes they should have. Not a perfect world though so explain what BC ferries should have done when they received no quotes from domestic shipbuilders and need to replace ships in an aging fleet that has/is causing travel disruptions for an essential service. Any ideas or just easier to complain? Quote
CdnFox Posted September 30, 2025 Report Posted September 30, 2025 4 minutes ago, Shady said: This government is completely pathetic. the thing that pisses me off is Freeland pretended to be shocked and to have had no prior knowledge of any of this. Then it turns out they were writing emails to her about it and the department absolutely knew. Liberals are useless Just now, LinkSoul60 said: Your constant complaining is far more pathetic.... WAAAAAAAHHHH!!!! YOU POINTED OUT THE TRUTH AGAIN AND IT UPSETS ME!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH Christ, would someone please change his diaper? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
blackbird Posted September 30, 2025 Report Posted September 30, 2025 (edited) BC Ferries could have created thousands of good-paying jobs in BC, but they really screwed up by going to China. Should cancel the deal. Protect BC in Trump's trade war. The forest industry will be hit hard. Edited September 30, 2025 by blackbird Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted September 30, 2025 Report Posted September 30, 2025 3 minutes ago, blackbird said: BC Ferries could have created thousands of good-paying jobs in BC, but they really screwed up by going to China. Should cancel the deal. Protect BC in Trump's trade war. The forest industry will be hit hard. I don't at all disagree that ships for BC ferries should be built in Canada, but fact is they don't have the bandwidth to build them any time soon and up to a decade or more out. As a resident in one of the BC coastal communities that depends on the ferries you'd be okay living with the delays and cancellations because of the aging fleet for another 10 years or more right? Quote
eyeball Posted September 30, 2025 Report Posted September 30, 2025 18 minutes ago, blackbird said: BC Ferries could have created thousands of good-paying jobs in BC, but they really screwed up by going to China. We could have maintained the generational capacity we had in the past but we hollowed out our economy and sent most of it to China a generation or two ago. You people used to call anyone who questioned the wisdom of that an anti-capitalist commie. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
herbie Posted September 30, 2025 Report Posted September 30, 2025 Yeah we could've invested billions more and in 5-10 years they could have started the actual construction of those ferries. And you'd have the opportunity to bellyache about the breakdowns and poor service on the Internet for another decade. Or maybe raised the federal deficit another $2 billion in grants so Poland or Germany could build them instead. We f*cked up royally in the past by not giving our shipyard enough business to keep going, let alone expand. Maybe if we'd been ordering new navy and Coast Guard ships over the last 40 years but you can't leave them to go a decade or so with zero work. Quote
CdnFox Posted September 30, 2025 Report Posted September 30, 2025 20 minutes ago, eyeball said: We could have maintained the generational capacity we had in the past but we hollowed out our economy and sent most of it to China a generation or two ago. That was when the union shipyards screwed up the fast ferries in one of the more expensive and humiliating debacles in British Columbia history. The NDP government of the day really screwed that one, I guess the NDP is still screwing up ordering ferries Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted September 30, 2025 Report Posted September 30, 2025 16 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That was when the union shipyards screwed up the fast ferries in one of the more expensive and humiliating debacles in British Columbia history. The NDP government of the day really screwed that one, I guess the NDP is still screwing up ordering ferries Preceding that however...the poor condition of the shipbuilding industry was well known... The condition of which had been deteriorating for decades under other ideologies and governments far and wide across the land and spectrum than just a few lefties in BC. The problem isn't government so much as the governed. It's been like this for generations. Maybe we can do something about that but in the meantime we need new ferries now if not sooner. IDGAF where they come from. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
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