eyeball Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 9 hours ago, CdnFox said: Canadian businesses discount their product so that their buyers don't have to pay the cost of the tariffs. If that's the case who's pouring all those billions into the US governments coffers? 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Aristides Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 (edited) 20 hours ago, CdnFox said: We are at the moment. it's been very well covered that canadian busienss are currently paying the tariffs themselves by discounting them from the price and eating them, and it's also been very widely reported that they can't keep doing so for much longer at all, and they're concerned that when they have to go back to paying full price their orders will dry up entirely. But... either way how did you get "carney writes a check to trump" out of that? LOL wait till the weekend before you start drinking In the end this is what will kill him. You can announce whatever you like and post whatever figures you like but if people feel they're personally not better off then you're going to have a problem. https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharyfolk/2025/07/22/gm-tariffs-cost-automaker-11-billion-last-quarter/ You think American companies aren't having to do the same thing? Edited August 28, 2025 by Aristides Quote
CdnFox Posted August 28, 2025 Author Report Posted August 28, 2025 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Since being elected on April 28th, PM Carney and his government have hit the ground running turning promises into action both at home and on the world stage. Here’s a look at what they’ve accomplished so far, and what’s coming next:  Domestic Wins  One Canada Act Passed – Reduces interprovincial trade barriers and improves cooperation among provinces and territories. – Early agreements signed with Ontario, BC, and Atlantic premiers.  Middle-Class Tax Relief & Affordability – Introduced tax cuts for middle-income Canadians. – Announced measures to tackle housing costs and food insecurity.  Housing Action – Fast-tracked funding agreements with provinces and cities to accelerate affordable builds. – Launched a national task force to modernize building codes and speed up permits.  Carbon Tax Repeal & New Climate Approach – Repealed the federal carbon tax on consumers. – Introduced a pragmatic framework to stay on track with climate goals.  Criminal Justice & Public Safety – Advanced Bill C-5 to strengthen bail rules and penalties for repeat violent offenders. – Increased funding for community policing and safety partnerships.  Team Canada Collaboration – Convened the First Ministers Meeting to foster provincial collaboration. – Premier Ford and others have openly supported Carney’s approach.  Global & Trade Leadership  G7 Summit Leadership – Brokered agreements on AI governance and global wildfire prevention. – Secured $4.3B in defense and reconstruction aid for Ukraine. – Reaffirmed Canada’s NATO defense spending target by end of 2025.  Canada–UK Trade Working Group – Deepening trade, AI, and critical minerals cooperation with the UK.  Reset with India – Restored full diplomatic relations and launched working groups on trade and student mobility.  Canada–EU Summit – Signed an updated Strategic Partnership Agreement to expand cooperation on supply chains, digital trade, and security.  Strengthened Australia Ties – Joint commitments on clean energy, Indo-Pacific security, and agriculture trade.  Historic Greenland Agreement – Bilateral deal on Arctic sovereignty, renewable energy, and port development reinforcing Canada’s leadership in the North.  NATO Summit – Committed additional Arctic defense funding and enhanced Ukraine support.  US–Canada Trade Deal – In negotiations to modernize NAFTA/USMCA.  Economic & Fiscal Strategy  Attracted new EU and UK investments in critical minerals and advanced manufacturing.  Encouraged foreign investors to buy Canadian bonds as a hedge against US unpredictability.  Committed to balancing fiscal responsibility with growth, no plans to gut services to meet targets.  What’s Next This Summer & Fall  Final US–Canada trade deal expected by August.  New Arctic sovereignty and defense investments.  Legislation to streamline immigration and tighten border security.  National Housing Acceleration Program rollout.  Fall budget unveiling investments, tax cuts, and efficiency measures.  Bottom Line It’s been just over two months, and this government has already delivered:  Core platform promises—tax relief, carbon tax repeal, housing action  Major international wins—restored alliances, secured funding, strengthened security  A clear path forward to make Canada more resilient and less dependent on any one trading partner More work ahead but these results speak for themselves. Those are all pretty much announcements only there's nothing of substance there. He failed it into provincial trade, nothing has changed that's of any substance. He's losing the fight on the free trade agreement. There's been no housing action at all. He hasn't delivered his fault budget. There's no new investments in the arctic yet and his commissions and other agreements like that are just basically an agreement to talk about possibly having an agreement someday. They're meaningless So you've just proven that he's not actually achieved anything. All he's done is made a bunch of announcements that make low IQ people like yourself jump up and down. But nothing's actually improving for the people on the ground. In fact things are getting worse and that's a problem carney is going to face. He says all these great things are happening but nothing is changing and voters will realize that before long 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 49 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Those are all pretty much announcements only there's nothing of substance there. He failed it into provincial trade, nothing has changed that's of any substance. He's losing the fight on the free trade agreement. There's been no housing action at all. He hasn't delivered his fault budget. There's no new investments in the arctic yet and his commissions and other agreements like that are just basically an agreement to talk about possibly having an agreement someday. They're meaningless So you've just proven that he's not actually achieved anything. All he's done is made a bunch of announcements that make low IQ people like yourself jump up and down. But nothing's actually improving for the people on the ground. In fact things are getting worse and that's a problem carney is going to face. He says all these great things are happening but nothing is changing and voters will realize that before long All verified and validate as opposed to your constant deflection and BS. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
herbie Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 (edited) On 8/27/2025 at 6:37 AM, paxamericana said: Oh dear, how nationally humiliating. We're not the 1974 Philidelohia Flyers. "The fighting" doesn't solely win the Cup, you need to use some game skills too. Edited August 28, 2025 by herbie Quote
Legato Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: All verified and validate as opposed to your constant deflection and BS. Yes you seem to be the expert at validating truck loads of nothingburgers. All the Carney has to do is fry an egg and you people would tout it as a wonderful example opening up Canada to the greatest bi-lateral chicken deal of the century. The sucking sound gets louder every day. Quote
Shady Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 Don’t worry guys, Carney has a plan. 🤣 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 3 minutes ago, Shady said: Don’t worry guys, Carney has a plan. 🤣 How do you think Poilievre would have negotiated zero tariffs for Canada? 1 Quote
Shady Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 4 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: How do you think Poilievre would have negotiated zero tariffs for Canada? We won’t know. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 1 minute ago, Shady said: We won’t know. Exactly.... Quote
ExFlyer Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Legato said: Yes you seem to be the expert at validating truck loads of nothingburgers. All the Carney has to do is fry an egg and you people would tout it as a wonderful example opening up Canada to the greatest bi-lateral chicken deal of the century. The sucking sound gets louder every day. OK ...what is incorrect or wrong? Put your money where your mouth is LOL And quit whining Conservatives have led this country 9 of the last 32 years and the latest was 15 years ago and then. the leader had to quit in disgrace.. Edited August 28, 2025 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
paxamericana Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 8 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: OK ...what is incorrect or wrong? Put your money where your mouth is LOL And quit whining Nah nah nah, Trump already gave you a solution, 51st. 1 Quote
Shady Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 21 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: OK ...what is incorrect or wrong? Put your money where your mouth is LOL And quit whining I will not quit critiquing terrible governance. 24 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Exactly.... Carney’s got a plan. 🤣 Quote
ExFlyer Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Shady said: I will not quit critiquing terrible governance. Carney’s got a plan. 🤣 Conservatives have led this country 9 of the last 32 years and the latest was 15 years ago and then. the leader had to quit in disgrace.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34583753 And have never been able to recover for the past 15 years. LOL Edited August 28, 2025 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
LinkSoul60 Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 2 minutes ago, Shady said: I will not quit critiquing terrible governance. Carney’s got a plan. 🤣 lol... you have to be a paid Poilievre poster 😂 I admire your persistence Shady, but the conservatives picked the wrong guy again to lead them in this election.... it is what it is. Quote
Shady Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 5 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: lol... you have to be a paid Poilievre poster 😂 I admire your persistence Shady, but the conservatives picked the wrong guy again to lead them in this election.... it is what it is. I admire your ability to excuse and tolerate terrible liberal governments. 12 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Conservatives have led this country 9 of the last 32 years and the latest was 15 years ago and then. the leader had to quit in disgrace.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34583753 And have never been able to recover for the past 15 years. LOL I remember those times, when the Canadian dollar was on par with the American dollar. Canadian GDP per capita was on par with America's. When energy was less expensive, food was less expensive, immigration policy was responsible, and housing was half the cost. How far we have fallen. 1 Quote
Legato Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 52 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: OK ...what is incorrect or wrong? Put your money where your mouth is LOL And quit whining Conservatives have led this country 9 of the last 32 years and the latest was 15 years ago and then. the leader had to quit in disgrace.. Empty like a bucket with no sides or bottom. Oh look there's the handle. Vague is the best you can come up with. Well looky here we have a tax cut........ To be clear, the government should lower the tax burden on Canadians. When you add up all taxes (income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, etc.) Canadians pay, the average family spends 43.0 per cent of its income on taxes—more than on food, shelter and clothing combined. In other words, taxes are the largest single expense families face. While the the Carney government’s proposed tax cut could help chip away at the staggering tax burden imposed on Canadians, the design of the tax cut (beyond the fact that this tax cut is paid for by borrowed money) limits its ability to improve overall economic growth and prosperity. Well done, thanks for the dry bread and water. 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 21 minutes ago, Shady said: I remember those times, when the Canadian dollar was on par with the American dollar. Canadian GDP per capita was on par with America's. When energy was less expensive, food was less expensive, immigration policy was responsible, and housing was half the cost. How far we have fallen. Of course you do...we all do but it was certainly not as a result of Harper LOL 2 minutes ago, Legato said: Empty like a bucket with no sides or bottom. Oh look there's the handle. Vague is the best you can come up with. Well looky here we have a tax cut........ To be clear, the government should lower the tax burden on Canadians. When you add up all taxes (income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, etc.) Canadians pay, the average family spends 43.0 per cent of its income on taxes—more than on food, shelter and clothing combined. In other words, taxes are the largest single expense families face. While the the Carney government’s proposed tax cut could help chip away at the staggering tax burden imposed on Canadians, the design of the tax cut (beyond the fact that this tax cut is paid for by borrowed money) limits its ability to improve overall economic growth and prosperity. Well done, thanks for the dry bread and water. Conservatives have led this country 9 of the last 32 years and the latest was 15 years ago and then. the leader had to quit in disgrace.. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
LinkSoul60 Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 4 minutes ago, Shady said: I admire your ability to excuse and tolerate terrible liberal governments. I remember those times, when the Canadian dollar was on par with the American dollar. Canadian GDP per capita was on par with America's. When energy was less expensive, food was less expensive, immigration policy was responsible, and housing was half the cost. How far we have fallen. I challenge you to look back at any post I've made in this forum and cite one instance where I've 'excused' or supported the last 10 years of Trudeau's government. Try to remember that I live in the same country and understand yours and others constant rehashing of the same challenges we all live in. I know them very well. Trudeau's gone though so maybe time to get over it...? It's interesting, and expected I suppose that conservatives in this forum think that anyone who supports Carney naturally has to be a life long liberal supporter. My vote like a lot of others had everything to do with the skillset and persona Carney brings, and the skillset and persona Poilievre lacks. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted August 28, 2025 Author Report Posted August 28, 2025 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: All verified and validate as opposed to your constant deflection and BS. Validate? They're announcements and meaningless except to liberal zombies who simply do what they're told and have no brain of their own. Why are you so.... oh. Oh yeah. Forgot who i was talking to Mean while the numbers don't lie, and we're getting worse every month. Neither carney nor you can lie your way out of that. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted August 28, 2025 Report Posted August 28, 2025 19 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Validate? They're announcements and meaningless except to liberal zombies who simply do what they're told and have no brain of their own. Why are you so.... oh. Oh yeah. Forgot who i was talking to Mean while the numbers don't lie, and we're getting worse every month. Neither carney nor you can lie your way out of that. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted August 29, 2025 Author Report Posted August 29, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Awww muffin, ANOTHER emotional break down? You're up to about one a day now Sorry the truth hurts but that's just a fact. And no surprise, we saw justin doing this all the time and these guys are the same guys that advised him. Carney knows the shine is starting to wear off and he's got to at least LOOK like he's doing something or he's going to be in real trouble. So he's creating 'photo ops' and 'announcements' and probably has a few more he plans on releasing at strategic times but they're just not of any substance. He's faililng at housing, he's failing with trump, he's failed with interprovincial trade barriers which he said would be "gone" by "July", he's not doing great with immigration as it turns out and people are saying they're worse off now than ever before and nothing's getting actually fixed. So this kind of useless crap is what we get. "announcements" with germany that one day we may have something to announce Please try to cope with that without having your usual hissy fit Edited August 29, 2025 by CdnFox Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted August 29, 2025 Author Report Posted August 29, 2025 Canada struggles to ease Trump tariffs despite Carney concessions Canada does not expect Donald Trump to drop all his tariffs on the country, officials have said, despite Mark Carney’s move to slash levies on US imports in a bid to win a trade deal in Washington. Dominic LeBlanc, Canada’s top trade official with the US, led a delegation to Washington this week after Ottawa scrapped retaliatory tariffs on billions of dollars' worth of American goods. The group met Trump’s commerce secretary Howard Lutnick, among other officials — but left without a deal. Everybody is noticing. Carney is failing, giving up tonnes of tariffs and concession after concession and not only getting nothing, but trump keeps upping our tariffs. Complete fail. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted August 29, 2025 Report Posted August 29, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, Legato said: To be clear, the government should lower the tax burden on Canadians. When you add up all taxes (income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, etc.) Canadians pay, the average family spends 43.0 per cent of its income on taxes—more than on food, shelter and clothing combined. In other words, taxes are the largest single expense families face. Imagine if people in the 1% top earners paid 43%. You people get apoplectic at the mere suggestion. Care to meet somewhere in the middle on this or would you rather cut the 1% even more slack? Edited August 29, 2025 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted August 29, 2025 Author Report Posted August 29, 2025 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Imagine if people in the 1% top earners paid 43%. You people get apoplectic at the mere suggestion. Care to meet somewhere in the middle on this or would you rather cut the 1% even more slack? that 1 percent already pays the vast majority of the taxes directly, And their businesses and investments pay the salaries of the people who pay a huge percentage of whats left. Maybe is someone is paying 100 times what you are already for the same services, they're paying enough Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
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