paxamericana Posted August 7, 2025 Report Posted August 7, 2025 (edited) Trump starting to require domestic production of semiconductors. Apple has agreed to start investing in domestics productions. The pivot away from China is moving along to India now where last year the production were over 60% “Look, he’s not making this kind of an investment anywhere in the world, not even close,” Trump said. He’s coming back. I mean, Apple is coming back to America.” Edited August 7, 2025 by paxamericana Quote
robosmith Posted August 7, 2025 Report Posted August 7, 2025 1 hour ago, paxamericana said: Trump starting to require domestic production of semiconductors. Apple has agreed to start investing in domestics productions. “Look, he’s not making this kind of an investment anywhere in the world, not even close,” Trump said. He’s coming back. I mean, Apple is coming back to America.” But they're blowing off Trump demands to build the entire iPhone in the US, because they KNOW that a $3500 iPhone would push everyone to Android and Samsung. But lDIOTS like you are celebrating that, right? 1 Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted August 7, 2025 Report Posted August 7, 2025 43 minutes ago, Aristides said: Enjoy your $4000 iPhones. Wouldn't machines make semiconductors mostly? I dunno. A lot of it is the advanced technical know-how and the facilities and software from what I gather in order to make advanced chip manufacturing. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
paxamericana Posted August 7, 2025 Author Report Posted August 7, 2025 19 minutes ago, robosmith said: But lDIOTS like you are celebrating that, right? I say to you today, my friends, though, even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American manifest destiny of dreams. I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up, live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Canadians are created Americans" . That one day we can put aside our partisan divide and annex Canada as the 51st state. I have a dream. Quote
robosmith Posted August 7, 2025 Report Posted August 7, 2025 3 minutes ago, paxamericana said: I say to you today, my friends, though, even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American manifest destiny of dreams. I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up, live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Canadians are created Americans" . That one day we can put aside our partisan divide and annex Canada as the 51st state. I have a dream. Sorry to burst your BUBBLE, but it ain't gonna hapen. Quote
paxamericana Posted August 7, 2025 Author Report Posted August 7, 2025 1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said: Wouldn't machines make semiconductors mostly? I dunno. A lot of it is the advanced technical know-how and the facilities and software from what I gather in order to make advanced chip manufacturing. Yes the labor is not in the actual production, the design is labor intensive and that is something that the Americans already dominates. Canada is completely missing out. Quote
Deluge Posted August 7, 2025 Report Posted August 7, 2025 12 hours ago, Aristides said: Enjoy your $4000 iPhones. Then we stop using iphones - they're glued to our hands anyways - it could be the best decision ever made. Quote
Shady Posted August 7, 2025 Report Posted August 7, 2025 13 hours ago, Aristides said: Enjoy your $4000 iPhones. Not gonna cost $4000. Regardless, so you support slave labour? Quote
Shady Posted August 7, 2025 Report Posted August 7, 2025 12 hours ago, robosmith said: But they're blowing off Trump demands to build the entire iPhone in the US, because they KNOW that a $3500 iPhone would push everyone to Android and Samsung. But lDIOTS like you are celebrating that, right? Android phone makers are going to be asked to do the same thing. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted August 7, 2025 Report Posted August 7, 2025 What are those poor slave Uighurs kids going to do now? go to school? Where is the future in that?! Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Michael Hardner Posted August 7, 2025 Report Posted August 7, 2025 8 hours ago, Deluge said: Then we stop using iphones - they're glued to our hands anyways - it could be the best decision ever made. " You own nothing and be happy." Ida Aiken, WEF https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/You'll_own_nothing_and_be_happy#:~:text=The phrase is based on,on ownership of personal property. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Aristides Posted August 7, 2025 Report Posted August 7, 2025 7 hours ago, Shady said: Android phone makers are going to be asked to do the same thing. Maybe but they will only be making phones in the US for the US at US prices. The rest of the world will be paying a lot less for phones built outside the US. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted August 7, 2025 Report Posted August 7, 2025 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: Maybe but they will only be making phones in the US for the US at US prices. The rest of the world will be paying a lot less for phones built outside the US. Yep, the rest of the world can enjoy the free labor of those Uighur kids. What's a little slave labor really hurt when you can post a TikTok about your chai latte. Edited August 7, 2025 by gatomontes99 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Aristides Posted August 7, 2025 Report Posted August 7, 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Yep, the rest of the world can enjoy the free labor of those Uighur kids. Most of Samsung's phones are made in Viet Nam. They closed their last Chinese plant in 2019. LG makes theirs in South Korea. Google makes theirs in Taiwan. Edited August 7, 2025 by Aristides Quote
gatomontes99 Posted August 8, 2025 Report Posted August 8, 2025 2 hours ago, Aristides said: Most of Samsung's phones are made in Viet Nam. They closed their last Chinese plant in 2019. LG makes theirs in South Korea. Google makes theirs in Taiwan. And? We need manufacturing here. What happened in 2021? Do you know why there was a car shortage? Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Aristides Posted August 8, 2025 Report Posted August 8, 2025 3 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: And? We need manufacturing here. What happened in 2021? Do you know why there was a car shortage? Since when were Uighur kids working in plants in Viet Nam, Taiwan and South Korea? Why was there a car shortage and what does it have to do with this? Quote
Aristides Posted August 8, 2025 Report Posted August 8, 2025 Trump says a lot of things. Apple has said things but until they actually spend the money, it's just talk. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted August 8, 2025 Report Posted August 8, 2025 6 minutes ago, Aristides said: Since when were Uighur kids working in plants in Viet Nam, Taiwan and South Korea? Why was there a car shortage and what does it have to do with this? The Uighurs are a Chinese thing. You moved the bar to Vietnam. We were talking about Apple, their use of Chinese labor and their decision to move some production to the US. There was a car shortage because China decided Zero COVID was attainable. Never mind that nearly 100% of the planet had contracted their WuFlu. They didn't open plants so cars couldn't be manufactured because they needed the Chinese microchips for windows, locks, backup cams, lane sensors, cruise control, start seitches, etc etc etc. This shortage highlighted the reliance on Chinese microchips and processors. That is why a tariff (or any tool) that brings high-tech manufacturing back to the US is good for pretty much everyone. China won't be able to hold the world hostage. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Aristides Posted August 8, 2025 Report Posted August 8, 2025 You were babbling on about Uighur slave labour making Android phones. I just pointed out you were full of shit. Quote
Deluge Posted August 8, 2025 Report Posted August 8, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: " You own nothing and be happy." Ida Aiken, WEF https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/You'll_own_nothing_and_be_happy#:~:text=The phrase is based on,on ownership of personal property. Thank you, Mrs. Marx, but I'll stick with what a have sans the iphones. Edited August 8, 2025 by Deluge Quote
Nationalist Posted August 8, 2025 Report Posted August 8, 2025 12 hours ago, Aristides said: Maybe but they will only be making phones in the US for the US at US prices. The rest of the world will be paying a lot less for phones built outside the US. You dont know that. In fact, having read many of your posts, you dont know a lot of things...you think you know about. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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