Where do Canadians stand on protecting the Jewish state of Israel?

[ExFlyer]

3 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

I'm just using your logic.

My logic???

You need to explain instead of making useless stoopid accusations as you too often make. .

You were the one that said "My city used to be all white. I guess I have a right to be angry and start killing everyone" and "Palestine was a shithole, the ass end of the Ottoman empire" and ":Jews came in and made the desert bloom, and all the savages around got resentful and angry."

Hence...you are a racist...by your words, not my logic.

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Why should Canadian protect Israel??? They have killed far more Arabs and get praised for it??

Should Canadians not protect the innocents being killed by indiscriminate bombing by Israel? 

Really do not care what goes on in the Middle East. It has been a constant problem since State of Israel was thrust upon the world. Iran could nuke the entire region and it would not be missed.

Another guy who has not bothered to read the history behind Israel and the friction middle eastern nations have caused.

Who thrusted Israel upon the world ?, and why do we just insist on pointing out just israel in this creation....the same organization also created most of the middle east is there a problem with those nations...nope just the jewish one....lets brush aside all the Muslim countries acts, and concentrate on the jewish acts. 

Yes you do, you have posted hundreds of times on this very topic, funny for guy who says he doesn't care...Iran won't be nuking anyone this year...thanks to the American Air Force...

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Israel is a free, democratic Western nation

Israel has turned itself into a monstrosity - an affront to human civilization.

[paxamericana]

6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Israel has turned itself into a monstrosity - an affront to human civilization.

The problem is land. Their population is growing and they need the space. It was only a matter of time before they pushed into Gaza. Realistically, they should just peacefully purchase land from the Syrian or Egypt. 

Edited July 27, 2025 by paxamericana

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

I have said this before and it is my opinion.

And your opinion is patently unhinged by virtually any definition of the word. Interestingly enough though I'm actually willing to defend your right to it, see how that sh&^ works herb?

Peaceful solutions are messy, as is democracy itself and I'd submit that nuking an entire region because you're tired of them doesn't sound too liberal to me.

Hold on a second, now that I think about it.... 

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

Another guy who has not bothered to read the history behind Israel and the friction middle eastern nations have caused.

Who thrusted Israel upon the world ?, and why do we just insist on pointing out just israel in this creation....the same organization also created most of the middle east is there a problem with those nations...nope just the jewish one....lets brush aside all the Muslim countries acts, and concentrate on the jewish acts. 

Yes you do, you have posted hundreds of times on this very topic, funny for guy who says he doesn't care...Iran won't be nuking anyone this year...thanks to the American Air Force...

Look, I am not going to argue with you.

Fact is, I did read and there was no Israel before the UN declaration and the British withdrawal. "Israel's establishment as an independent sovereign state was officially declared in Tel Aviv on Friday May 14, 1948, by Zionist leader David Ben-Gurion, the day the British Mandate over Palestine was officially terminated, in accordance with UN Resolution 181."  "UN Resolution 181, adopted by the UN General Assembly on November 29, 1947, was the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine. This resolution recommended the partition of British-administered Palestine into independent Arab and Jewish states, with Jerusalem placed under a special international regime" except that a Arab state was never established. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

The UN did not create "most of the Middle East". Lebanon, Jordan, Syria and Egypt surrounded Palestine for hundreds of years before the UN came along.

No, I have not posted "hundreds of times on this very topic"...only when one was addressed to me.

I have never said Iran would nuke anyone.

 

 

Edited July 27, 2025 by ExFlyer

[ExFlyer]

10 minutes ago, Venandi said:

And your opinion is patently unhinged by virtually any definition of the word. Interestingly enough though I'm actually willing to defend your right to it, see how that sh&^ works herb?

Peaceful solutions are messy, as is democracy itself and I'd submit that nuking an entire region because you're tired of them doesn't sound too liberal to me.

Hold on a second, now that I think about it.... 

My opinion is mine and yours is yours and I can unequivocally say"your opinion is patently unhinged by virtually any definition of the word."

 

[Venandi]

20 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

My opinion is mine and yours is yours and I can unequivocally say"your opinion is patently unhinged by virtually any definition of the word."

Ok big guy... if nuking the entire region sounds reasonable to you then I'll stand as unabashedly unhinged. 

Edited July 27, 2025 by Venandi

[ExFlyer]

37 minutes ago, Venandi said:

Ok big guy... if nuking the entire region sounds reasonable to you then I'll stand as unabashedly unhinged. 

Where did I state it "sounds reasonable"? An opinion, political or otherwise is a looooong way from action or fact.

My opinion is that you are also "unabashedly unhinged" in many of your posts, claims, accusations and statements. 

So,....   have a "reasonable" day

[herbie]

7 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Why should Canadian protect Israel???

They can protect themselves well enough. But we can call the country out for excesses it claims as 'protecting' themselves. Just like we do for any other country on the planet.

[ExFlyer]

14 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

No. This post is for extremists only. Get your centrism out of here. OP’s original question; should Israel be nuke?

Never once said Israel should be nuked.

 

[I am Groot]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Israel has turned itself into a monstrosity - an affront to human civilization.

Phhhhhht. 

Don't believe every silly thing you hear from anti-Semitic organizations.

[paxamericana]

2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Never once said Israel should be nuked.

 

So you’re a Zionist 

[I am Groot]

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

My logic???

I didn't say it was very good logic. But yeah, it's yours.

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

You were the one that said "My city used to be all white. I guess I have a right to be angry and start killing everyone"

You said the Palestinians had a right to be mad since Israel was created by the UN 75 odd years ago. Now it's full of Jews, and the Muslims don't like it.

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

and "Palestine was a shithole, the ass end of the Ottoman empire"

The Ottomans would have said the same. Nothing there but dust, dirt, and bedouin.

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

:Jews came in and made the desert bloom, and all the savages around got resentful and angry."

Unquestionably true. You object for some reason? Do you feel 'savages' is an improper description of the locals?

 

 

Edited July 27, 2025 by I am Groot

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Look, I am not going to argue with you.

Fact is, I did read and there was no Israel before the UN declaration and the British withdrawal.

Why is there a Jewish temple there that's over 2,000 years old? Why does the bible mention 'the Israelites'? Why did the Romans call the place 'Judea"?

 

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

The UN did not create "most of the Middle East". Lebanon, Jordan, Syria and Egypt surrounded Palestine for hundreds of years before the UN came along.

Only Egypt was a country. The others were provinces of the Ottoman Empire and before that the Roman Empire. Although, actually, Egypt was a possession of the Romans for a thousand years or more.

 

[I am Groot]

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Nope...just tired of the trouble being Iraq, then Iran, then Syria, then Lebanon, then  Yemen, Saudi but not Israel....is there any left? Time and time again.

Anytime you have Muslims, you're going to have trouble. Their religion specifically calls on them to expand by violence and take over everything until Islam rules all the world. And they've been doing that since 610AD

Now that we've brought millions of Muslims into the West, we're starting to experience that here too. It will get worse, the violence will grow, and there will be massive fighting before this is settled.

[ExFlyer]

12 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

I didn't say it was very good logic. But yeah, it's yours.

You said the Palestinians had a right to be made since Israel was created by the UN 75 odd years ago. Now it's full of Jews, and the Muslims don't like it.

The Ottomans would have said the same. Nothing there but dust, dirt, and bedouin.

Unquestionably true. You object for some reason? Do you feel 'savages' is an improper description of the locals?

 

 

I never once said Palestinians had a right to anything.

Ottoman Empire was 600 years long and finished in 1922, long before the UN and...Jordan, Syria, Lebanon among many other countries were in the Ottoman Empire but as countries independently ruled. Like the Roman Empire....many many countries but in an Empire.

"'savages' is an improper description of the locals?" who are the "locals"???

 

Edited July 27, 2025 by ExFlyer

[ExFlyer]

2 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Anytime you have Muslims, you're going to have trouble. Their religion specifically calls on them to expand by violence and take over everything until Islam rules all the world. And they've been doing that since 610AD

Now that we've brought millions of Muslims into the West, we're starting to experience that here too. It will get worse, the violence will grow, and there will be massive fighting before this is settled.

I do not defend any religious sect in any way but I am quite sure muslims are nice people too. 

Yes, there are some that are terrorists and troublesome but, there are many terrorist and troublesome christians and nonbelievers too.

[I am Groot]

14 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

I never once said Palestinians had a right to anything.

Ottoman Empire was 600 years long and finished in 1922, long before the UN

Yeah, and the parts of it other than Turkey were turned over to the British and French to do with as they chose. Eventually, after another war, they turned them over to the UN.

14 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

and...Jordan, Syria, Lebanon among many other countries were in the Ottoman Empire but as countries independently ruled.

No, man. They were never independently ruled. And Jordan was not a country of any sort. The borders were carved out of existing Palestine by the British, who created Jordan. Syria was a part of a wider area and a province of the Ottoman Empire. Before that, it was part of Rome, too. Its border were carved out by the French, who created the state of Syria. Lebanon was similarly created by the French out of other territories.

14 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

"'savages' is an improper description of the locals?" who are the "locals"???

Savages are defined by their behaviour and level of advancement. The people in that area in 1946 definitely qualified as savages. A great many of them still do. Again, due to their behaviour and level of social and technical advancement.

Edited July 27, 2025 by I am Groot

[I am Groot]

3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

I do not defend any religious sect in any way but I am quite sure muslims are nice people too. 

You cannot equate Islam with other religions. Judaism, for example, does not try to recruit people. You really have to put in effort to convince them to let you be a Jew. Islam has been an aggressively expanding religion since Muhamed started murdering people to convince others to join. It has never stopped in all that time except when it was forced to by superior force. I'm sure there are some nice Muslims. But if they follow a vicious, violent religion, then their level of 'nice' can noticeably shrink if they feel their religion demands it.

Social media is filled with riots in the UK, in France, in Belgium, in the Netherlands, in Germany, in Spain, in Ireland, all caused by the numbers and violence - especially sexual violence - of incoming Muslims savages. Of people who think a woman who isn't covered head to toe is available for them to do with as they choose, who believe sex with children is fine, and whose religions specifically allows them to rape and enslave female 'unbelievers'. 

I believe that was one of the big appeals when Muhamed, the caravan bandit, put the religion together.

3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Yes, there are some that are terrorists and troublesome but, there are many terrorist and troublesome christians and nonbelievers too.

Not really. 95% of the terrorism in the world is coming from Muslims.

[ExFlyer]

10 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

You cannot equate Islam with other religions. Judaism, for example, does not try to recruit people. You really have to put in effort to convince them to let you be a Jew. I....

Not really. 95% of the terrorism in the world is coming from Muslims.

judaism (Israel) conscripts all youth "Military service is compulsory for all Jews and Druze, both men and women, and for Circassian men. The active-duty period is 32 months for men and 24 months for women, followed by reserve duty until age 40."

I think your hate for a religion is clouded.

Have a good day.

[suds]

It's estimated that Israel has between 90 to 400 nuclear warheads at their disposal which can be air launched, submarine launched, or carried by ICBM's. I doubt they need Canada for protection. I would say 'support' would be a better term.

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Fact is, I did read and there was no Israel before the UN declaration and the British withdrawal. "Israel's establishment as an independent sovereign state was officially declared in Tel Aviv on Friday May 14, 1948, 

"A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing."

It's clear from you wrote there that everything that you know about Israel would fit in a nutshell and rattle.

I'll be honest: the existence of ancient Israel isn't of much significance, as far as I'm concerned.

Sure, truthfully it was preposterous that the whole region was named Palestine by the Romans, because that region was as "Palestinian" at that time as BC is part of PEI. I know that you don't have a clue what I mean by that, and it's not worth explaining to you.

The fact is that over the centuries, between the time when Israel and Judea and Philistia were separate countries and 1948, muslims overran the ME and either slaughtered or force-converted almost everyone to islam. Everyone that lived in the ME for the last 1,000 years before the British knocked off the Ottomans did so knowing that they were 2nd, 3rd or 4th-class citizens, and muslims were the boss of everyone there. 

FYI the creation of Israel, via British mandate, was no more or less legitimate than the creation of Pakistan. The only difference is that one of those newly partitioned countries engaged in a slaughter of biblical proportions and then drove out several million people, and the other one was attacked by 7 nations on the first day of their existence. 

Does that massive slaughter still bother you, ex-flyer? 

Do you feel sorry for the other country... the one that was attacked by 7 nations on the first day?   

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The UN did not create "most of the Middle East". Lebanon, Jordan, Syria and Egypt surrounded Palestine for hundreds of years before the UN came along.

No, I have not posted "hundreds of times on this very topic"...only when one was addressed to me.

Jesus H Flying Christ, I feel myself getting dumber as your words hit my eyes.

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I have never said Iran would nuke anyone.

Then you don't know shit about Iran. 

FYI Iran feels the same way about Israelis as you do about intelligent conversation - they want nothing less than eradication.

Grok:

• Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has repeatedly expressed hostility toward the state of Israel, advocating for its destruction and describing it as a "cancerous tumor" that must be eliminated. For example, in 2014, he posted a plan titled "9 key questions about the elimination of Israel" on his Twitter account, stating that the "barbaric" Jewish state "has no cure but to be annihilated." He has also supported Palestinian resistance and armed groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, emphasizing that Iran's position is to support any group fighting against Israel. 

 

Here's what your friends in Hamas think, from Chat GPT:

That's not my opinion. That's what ChatGPT has to say about the stated goals of Hamas. 

The reason Iran gives money to Hamas is because Hamas talks that way about Israel, and Jews. Not just "talks that way" mind you, but because they've shown nothing but a willingness to kill as many Jews as they can, every chance they get.

 

The reason why Israel is so intent on getting rid of the tunnels is they can't afford to have Hamas get hold of the components for a nuke and assemble it under Israel.

If Israel cedes that underground space to Hamas they will be incinerated, 100%. Israel itself is so small that just a couple nukes can wipe out all of their industry and the vast majority of their population. 

[eyeball]

7 hours ago, paxamericana said:

The problem is land. Their population is growing and they need the space. It was only a matter of time before they pushed into Gaza. Realistically, they should just peacefully purchase land from the Syrian or Egypt. 

Realistically, European Jews should have been given a huge chunk of Germany and been armed to the teeth.

Of course Canada didn't want them anymore than our allies wanted them so we all forced them into Palestine.

Now the West, along with the rest of the world, is reaping what it's sown.

 

 

5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Phhhhhht. 

Don't believe every silly thing you hear from anti-Semitic organizations.

But I thought I was anti-Semitic...you know, like Einstein.

[Army Guy]

7 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Look, I am not going to argue with you.

Fact is, I did read and there was no Israel before the UN declaration and the British withdrawal. "Israel's establishment as an independent sovereign state was officially declared in Tel Aviv on Friday May 14, 1948, by Zionist leader David Ben-Gurion, the day the British Mandate over Palestine was officially terminated, in accordance with UN Resolution 181."  "UN Resolution 181, adopted by the UN General Assembly on November 29, 1947, was the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine. This resolution recommended the partition of British-administered Palestine into independent Arab and Jewish states, with Jerusalem placed under a special international regime" except that a Arab state was never established. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

The UN did not create "most of the Middle East". Lebanon, Jordan, Syria and Egypt surrounded Palestine for hundreds of years before the UN came along.

No, I have not posted "hundreds of times on this very topic"...only when one was addressed to me.

I have never said Iran would nuke anyone.

 

 

Not the UN but the league of nations, and yes they did create Jordan, then transjordan, Syria, Lebanon who did not exist before then as nations, and many more middle eastern countries are on that list as well ....and the state of palestine which was under british control where both arab and Jew co existed and still does today....there is no state of palestine until 2025....I thought you said you read the history....

There are hundreds of posts with your name attached to it, on these very topics...so you do care or you would not have responded...most if not all you support palestinians, lead by terrorists...

You said you Iran could nuke could nuke the entire area and it would not be missed, and i replied Iran would not be nuking anyone thanks to the US air Force. I did not imply you said iran would nuke Israel just pointing out they aren't capable of nuking anyone this year...

 

The League of Nations mandate granted the French Mandate for Syria and the Lebanon, the British Mandate for Mesopotamia (later Iraq) and the British Mandate for Palestine, later divided into Mandatory Palestine and the Emirate of Transjordan (1921–1946). The Ottoman Empire's possessions in the Arabian Peninsula became the Kingdom of Hejaz, which the Sultanate of Nejd (today Saudi Arabia) was allowed to annex, and the Mutawakkilite Kingdom of Yemen. The Empire's possessions on the western shores of the Persian Gulf were variously annexed by Saudi Arabia (al-Ahsa and Qatif), or remained British protectorates (Kuwait, Bahrain, and Qatar) and became the Arab States of the Persian Gulf.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_foreign_policy_in_the_Middle_East