Is it Time To Admit that Trump Is Our Daddy?

[WestCanMan]

This came up in a different thread (I'm literally plagiarizing myself word-for word), but like most of my brillyunt musings, this is worthy of an epic thread...

• Trump is literally calling the shots in Canada like Carney isn't even there. He's forcing us to fight the fentanyl trade, and it's embarrassing how well that is going (why didn't we do that ourselves? Why did't we even know that Canada was the main node in the Fentanyl transportation network until Trump said it?) Now he's telling us how to deal with our FN's people, what bills/laws we have to scrap, and what pipelines we have to approve. Is Trump already our ruler? 
• Further to #2: if Trump is able to just call the shots here from DC, that makes him the de facto ruler, and Carney just the ruler de jure. Which begs the questions "Are we already the 51st state?", and "If we are, then why not just join the US, so that we at least get to vote on the next president?"

 

Is Trump already our boss? Is he calling our shots? How much better/worse does it get for Canadians if we just succumb to the vast external pressure? How many auto-sector jobs does Ont get to keep if we knuckle under?

 

More to think about....

Trump often says whatever he needs to in negotiations if it furthers his cause. He plays people like violins all the time. He's a master manipulator, the likes of which the world has never seen. I mean, just look at NATO leaders now promising to get to 5% military spending and acting like it was their own idea... WTF???? Trump's jizz is all over their tramp-stamps and they think it makes them silverbacks.

Anyways, he has publicly buttered the biscuits of notorious/nefarious losers like KJU, the leaders of the Taliban, Putin, and even the carney for God's sake, just so that they could hold their chins up a bit while they brought home the bill for America's bacon. So, when master-manipulator Trump says that he wants Canada to be the 51st state, is he bluffing? Did he just do that to provoke an adversarial stance and comments from our own gov't so that he could justify going silverback on us? 

Think about this: The rust belt is basically the whole "swing state" region now, has been for a while now, and by bending Ford and the carney over his knee, Trump just won the rust belt over, heart and soul. They're in the palm of his hand. 66 EC votes. That's even more wampum than Cali.

So why does he want Canada added to the pot? The electoral college votes of our country would have gone Democrat every time even before Trump became our enemy, because our MSM is a left4rd cesspool and Canadians lack the brains & spine to resist even the most see-through propaganda. Our population is larger than that of Cali, which has 55 votes, and that's a thorn in the GOP's side like no other. 

So, if Canada joins the US, not only does Trump acquire another California to prop up the Dems, he also has to leave a lot of those auto-sector jobs in Ontario and take the tariffs off of our metals, so the GOP no longer owns the 66 EC votes of the rust belt. 

In short, if Canada joins the US, the Dems gain 55 EC votes from here, and the rust-belt states become swing states again, if there even is such a thing once the Dems have Canada's EC votes. The US might end up a 1-party-rule state just like we are. 

AND TRUMP IS ALREADY CALLING THE SHOTS HERE FROM DC ANYWAYS, so what does he stand to gain from taking over the frozen north?

 

Last thing to think about - mostly unrelated.

I read all the Nigel Tranter books and some other books about the heroic fight of the Scots to resist English rule, and it made sense from the Scots' POV. They had autonomy, they wanted to keep it. I was sympathetic the the Bruce's cause. 

From England's POV, they wanted their region to always be a united power to face the rest of the world, whether that be the Norse or French, and not have to watch the Scots at their backs. 

If you look at the view from 50,000 feet, the Bruce's cause ran contrary to their actual best interests: just like it was disadvantageous for the Kind of Scots to have a bunch of clans always bickering within Scotland, and lessening their own ability to put on a united front, it was disadvantageous for the whole British Isles region to be divided into the warring kingdoms of Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England, and even some smaller islands which could be taken over to host foreign armies (always the Norse). 

Canada and the US don't bicker, but we also don't collaborate with the US to the extent that we would if we had one government running the whole region. We are also a safe-haven for terrorists and drug traffickers who see Canada as the gateway to US markets.

 

 

It would suck to lose Canada to the US, I grew up loving the idea of being Canadian, but if you really think about, there's very little to be proud of ever since our gov't went full-fascist during covid. Now more than ever, Canadians hate each other. Our political discourse is juvenile and bitter. There's no thoughtful exchange of ideas here, just stonewalling, sealioning, ignorance, accusations, and lies. Fully 50% of Canadians are LPOC cultists and nothing more. BUT, that 50% are also Dem cultists, so what do they have to lose from joining the US? 

Left4rds can still keep on electing the LPOC politburo here, but their leader would be a strong black woman like Kamala, instead of an evil cisgender cracker like the Carney. It's a win-win for leftists, actually. 

 

Flame away, all.

Edited July 25, 2025 by WestCanMan

[taxme]

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

This came up in a different thread (I'm literally plagiarizing myself word-for word), but like most of my brillyunt musings, this is worthy of an epic thread...

• Trump is literally calling the shots in Canada like Carney isn't even there. He's forcing us to fight the fentanyl trade, and it's embarrassing how well that is going (why didn't we do that ourselves? Why did't we even know that Canada was the main node in the Fentanyl transportation network until Trump said it?) Now he's telling us how to deal with our FN's people, what bills/laws we have to scrap, and what pipelines we have to approve. Is Trump already our ruler? 
• Further to #2: if Trump is able to just call the shots here from DC, that makes him the de facto ruler, and Carney just the ruler de jure. Which begs the questions "Are we already the 51st state?", and "If we are, then why not just join the US, so that we at least get to vote on the next president?"

 

Is Trump already our boss? Is he calling our shots? How much better/worse does it get for Canadians if we just succumb to the vast external pressure? How many auto-sector jobs does Ont get to keep if we knuckle under?

 

More to think about....

Trump often says whatever he needs to in negotiations if it furthers his cause. He plays people like violins all the time. He's a master manipulator, the likes of which the world has never seen. I mean, just look at NATO leaders now promising to get to 5% military spending and acting like it was their own idea... WTF???? Trump's jizz is all over their tramp-stamps and they think it makes them silverbacks.

Anyways, he has publicly buttered the biscuits of notorious/nefarious losers like KJU, the leaders of the Taliban, Putin, and even the carney for God's sake, just so that they could hold their chins up a bit while they brought home the bill for America's bacon. So, when master-manipulator Trump says that he wants Canada to be the 51st state, is he bluffing? Did he just do that to provoke an adversarial stance and comments from our own gov't so that he could justify going silverback on us? 

Think about this: The rust belt is basically the whole "swing state" region now, has been for a while now, and by bending Ford and the carney over his knee, Trump just won the rust belt over, heart and soul. They're in the palm of his hand. 66 EC votes. That's even more wampum than Cali.

So why does he want Canada added to the pot? The electoral college votes of our country would have gone Democrat every time even before Trump became our enemy, because our MSM is a left4rd cesspool and Canadians lack the brains & spine to resist even the most see-through propaganda. Our population is larger than that of Cali, which has 55 votes, and that's a thorn in the GOP's side like no other. 

So, if Canada joins the US, not only does Trump acquire another California to prop up the Dems, he also has to leave a lot of those auto-sector jobs in Ontario and take the tariffs off of our metals, so the GOP no longer owns the 66 EC votes of the rust belt. 

In short, if Canada joins the US, the Dems gain 55 EC votes from here, and the rust-belt states become swing states again, if there even is such a thing once the Dems have Canada's EC votes. The US might end up a 1-party-rule state just like we are. 

AND TRUMP IS ALREADY CALLING THE SHOTS HERE FROM DC ANYWAYS, so what does he stand to gain from taking over the frozen north?

 

Last thing to think about - mostly unrelated.

I read all the Nigel Tranter books and some other books about the heroic fight of the Scots to resist English rule, and it made sense from the Scots' POV. They had autonomy, they wanted to keep it. I was sympathetic the the Bruce's cause. 

From England's POV, they wanted their region to always be a united power to face the rest of the world, whether that be the Norse or French, and not have to watch the Scots at their backs. 

If you look at the view from 50,000 feet, the Bruce's cause ran contrary to their actual best interests: just like it was disadvantageous for the Kind of Scots to have a bunch of clans always bickering within Scotland, and lessening their own ability to put on a united front, it was disadvantageous for the whole British Isles region to be divided into the warring kingdoms of Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England, and even some smaller islands which could be taken over to host foreign armies (always the Norse). 

Canada and the US don't bicker, but we also don't collaborate with the US to the extent that we would if we had one government running the whole region. We are also a safe-haven for terrorists and drug traffickers who see Canada as the gateway to US markets.

 

 

It would suck to lose Canada to the US, I grew up loving the idea of being Canadian, but if you really think about, there's very little to be proud of ever since our gov't went full-fascist during covid. Now more than ever, Canadians hate each other. Our political discourse is juvenile and bitter. There's no thoughtful exchange of ideas here, just stonewalling, sealioning, ignorance, accusations, and lies. Fully 50% of Canadians are LPOC cultists and nothing more. BUT, that 50% are also Dem cultists, so what do they have to lose from joining the US? 

Left4rds can still keep on electing the LPOC politburo here, but their leader would be a strong black woman like Kamala, instead of an evil cisgender cracker like the Carney. It's a win-win for leftists, actually. 

 

Flame away, all.

Donald Trump is the man of the year. Trump has Canada by the balls. Trump is the only one that can save Canada from the clutches and wrecking ball of the WEF Marxist globalist ilk that right now pretty much own and control Canada. After all, Carnage is their shill man in Ottawa. 

I too once loved Canada but Canada is no more. But thanks to the Marxist lieberals in Ottawa, for decades now, they have done a fantastic job of destroying Canada already. Canada cannot be saved or have any progress to look forward too. Canada should be a wealthy country and Canadians should be filthy rich. But instead, Canada has become woke and broke. I have no problem with Alberta leaving Canada or joining America. 

God bless America. Canada RIP. 😇

[herbie]

[WestCanMan]

32 minutes ago, herbie said:

TBH, it's not treasonous for you to post that, but I wouldn't doubt that it violates some kind of Canadian anti-free-speech law that the Libs enacted, which prohibits "innernet stuff that huwts people's feewings". 

[WestCanMan]

@herbie You haven't said that you're not admitting that Trump's your daddy. 

Is there something that you wanna tell us? 

Did your mom meet a guy outside of The Bay and go for a ride in an elevator?

Edited July 26, 2025 by WestCanMan

[paxamericana]

Hold up, gota go make some popcorn for this.

[eyeball]

Fùck Trump. Why should I care if he insists on slapping a tax on his own people? I get it that makes our stuff more expensive but given it's no skin off my particular nose then I really DGAF.

Back in the day when my livelihood depended on Canada negotiating a better deal with the US (Salmon Treaty) Canadians sure didn't seem to give the fùck it required to stand up for us.

Now our fishery is a mere shadow of what it was, Americans catch Canadian fish in Alaska while Canadian fishermen were effectively disappeared. Oh, and corporate control over what was left for Canada was increased.

It also needs to be said Canadian boats are restricted from fishing for tuna in the US EEZ but American boats can fish in ours.

It's more fair to say Ottawa has been Uncle Sam's biatch for decades and at the end of the day I expect nothing less than Canada's full capitulation to Trump.

[Moonlight Graham]

It doesn't matter.   Either way, Canada is done.  Progressives have destroyed the country the last several decades and continue to do so.   Things are only declining faster now.

I welcome the hard times that are here and going to get worse.  It will grow some much-needed hair on the chest of Canadians.   We've become soft to the point of self-destruction and only tough times can save us.

[Moonlight Graham]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

It's more fair to say Ottawa has been Uncle Sam's biatch for decades and at the end of the day I expect nothing less than Canada's full capitulation to Trump.

After WWII with the weakening of Britain and the essential collapse of the British Empire, Canada switched from being a protectorate of the British Empire to a protectorate of the USA.

It doesn't make me happy to say this, but we're a dependent country and always have been, which explains a lot about how Canadians tend to think politically.

[herbie]

2 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Hold up, gota go make some popcorn for this.

Don't bother. I'm not arguing with someone who thinks Daddies are those guys who mistreat those they're responsible for and act like whiney babies all the time.

 

[eyeball]

20 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

It doesn't make me happy to say this, but we're a dependent country and always have been, which explains a lot about how Canadians tend to think politically.

You should see Canada's First Nations fishermen on the westcoast. These guys don't think twice about telling DFO enforcement to go fúck themselves and then pull a fish aboard the boat just to drive the point home.

Its an inspiration really.

And it figures DFO is out there trying to prevent natives from catching fish bound for US rivers.

You can't make this shit up.

[paxamericana]

23 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Canada switched from being a protectorate of the British Empire to a protectorate of the USA.

Don't you worry the parents are moving back in. It's your turn now Canada.

 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy8gxp7dvepo

[LinkSoul60]

7 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Now more than ever, Canadians hate each other

I disagree.  It's partisan hacks like you that think everyone hates each other and why, because your political party hasn't won jack shit in over a decade.  Other than reading posts from fools like you on this forum, I personally don't see a lot of hate at all, if any just because of someone's political affiliation. Yes, we have problems in the country, but what country doesn't....name just one. 

Told you before....life's too short so if it's that bad just leave. Keep driving south and see if you can take up permanent residence and hang with the other Maga DF's who also like the hate a divisiveness.  You're a partisan hack and will no doubt love the red hat crowd....  Just do it

[eyeball]

12 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Progressives have destroyed the country the last several decades and continue to do so. 

Lefties are somehow responsible for the circumstances I outlined  surrounding the Pacific tuna fishery? How exactly?

[WestCanMan]

19 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I disagree.  

No one cares what you think, link. 

You're a low-IQ cultist, and there's as much to be gleaned by having a blind psychic look at your used toilet paper as there is to listening to you. 

Point me to a post where you think that you said something interesting, could ya? Something worth actually considering....

You can't, because such a thing doesn't exist. You're just a troll. 

 

Edited July 26, 2025 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

21 hours ago, eyeball said:

Fùck Trump. Why should I care if he insists on slapping a tax on his own people? I get it that makes our stuff more expensive but given it's no skin off my particular nose then I really DGAF.

Back in the day when my livelihood depended on Canada negotiating a better deal with the US (Salmon Treaty) Canadians sure didn't seem to give the fùck it required to stand up for us.

Now our fishery is a mere shadow of what it was, Americans catch Canadian fish in Alaska while Canadian fishermen were effectively disappeared. Oh, and corporate control over what was left for Canada was increased.

It also needs to be said Canadian boats are restricted from fishing for tuna in the US EEZ but American boats can fish in ours.

It's more fair to say Ottawa has been Uncle Sam's biatch for decades and at the end of the day I expect nothing less than Canada's full capitulation to Trump.

Full marks for contributing the the thread with useful info.

I get that there has always been a power imbalance between Canada and the US, just like there is between eastern and western Canada. 

I still feel blessed to have lived my whole life out west, but politically we are at everybody else's whim. 

[Moonlight Graham]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

Lefties are somehow responsible for the circumstances I outlined  surrounding the Pacific tuna fishery? How exactly?

I'm not talking about pacific tuna.

[LinkSoul60]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

No one cares what you think, link. 

You're a low-IQ cultist, and there's as much to be gleaned by having a blind psychic look at your used toilet paper as there is to listening to you. 

Point me to a post where you think that you said something interesting, could ya? Something worth actually considering....

You can't, because such a thing doesn't exist. You're just a troll. 

 

So in other words....  You haven't left your basement for the past month but when you did, you hated on some older couple that happened to have on their Canadian shirts for Canada Day.  Therefore of course, everyone hates everyone in Canada.

Go get some fresh air man...

[herbie]

Only when you see them smiling and holding hands and all you can think of is that they're f*cking each other and you're stuck in the basement with YouPorn and the Palmer sisters.

Probably stand in front of a mirror practicing his best Trump scowl.

Go outside and join a Men's Shed you can sit around griping with other old farts while you do something useful like fix some old lady's lawnmower.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I'm not talking about pacific tuna.

You know how I've told you that fishing communities are like canaries in a coal mine? As it goes with us so it will go with you.

We sold down the river by Ottawa to big corporate interests who wanted all the fish then we were sold out to US fishing interests who wanted our fish. 

And you blame lefties.  LMAO!

 

[Moonlight Graham]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You know how I've told you that fishing communities are like canaries in a coal mine? As it goes with us so it will go with you.

We sold down the river by Ottawa to big corporate interests who wanted all the fish then we were sold out to US fishing interests who wanted our fish. 

And you blame lefties.  LMAO!

I'm not talking about fish.

[eyeball]

7 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I'm not talking about fish.

You should have been listening. You might have had a clue about what was in store for the country.

[WestCanMan]

12 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

So in other words....  You haven't left your basement for the past month but when you did, you hated on some older couple that happened to have on their Canadian shirts for Canada Day.  Therefore of course, everyone hates everyone in Canada.

Go get some fresh air man...

So you can't even point to one of your posts where you think that you actually contributed something of interest to the forum.

Why are you even here, link? Do you think that your verbal diarrhea is somehow furthering the left4rd cause? Do you think that your snotty insults impress anyone worth impressing? 

[LinkSoul60]

48 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

So you can't even point to one of your posts where you think that you actually contributed something of interest to the forum.

Why are you even here, link? Do you think that your verbal diarrhea is somehow furthering the left4rd cause? Do you think that your snotty insults impress anyone worth impressing? 

Why deflect?  Because you don't get out much and actually see how society functions, no reason to rail on me because of that.

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Why deflect?  Because you don't get out much and actually see how society functions, no reason to rail on me because of that.

You're the one who's here dodging questions, dummy. Why would you even open a discussion about deflecting now?

What did CTV and CBC say about the summit?

Where is your last fact-based, reasonable post? All I see is a whole host of snotty, childish crap from you. 

Find your last salient point, Linkie...